Does CI person need interpreter?

[vallee]

Wherever it is coming from, is somewhere I never want to go!
Rick

Just remember the forum rules. Just ignore. I had a comment left on my blog today that made me scratch my head and say - come on - move on.

 

[Roadrunner]

yesss..move along with what this thread is concerned with.




~RR

 

[GalaxyAngel]

Uh okay.. fine move on..

Seems you avoid all answer.. you don't want answer this..
officially you don't accept your child is DEAF.. you wanted solution the problem ci for your child and part of Hearing world.. why you're here part of Deaf Community? Doesn't make sense.. all you want push Deaf people out and take over this thread.. control..

That's too bad for you cannot have an interpreter provide for you needs.. You have to live and learn talk and listen!
Good Luck!

I understand.. then..

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Shel, it's not always professionals that are causing the misunderstanding. Much of it, imo, is just that people don't understand, period. A friend of Drew's who also has bilateral implants was covered in a radio story within the last year.

His parents talked to the person doing the interview for over an hour, and explained everything. They answered questions on the air, described his education and surgery, etc. Everything went well and I suppose the listeners learned a lot.

However, at the very end of the interview the host says "And this little boy will never know that he was deaf."

The parents wanted to strangle this host. Not only is it the dumbest remarks ever made, but it was directly contrary to things they mentioned, such as him asking for help putting the CI's on, etc.

This host just doesn't get it, I assume because she has never been around deaf and hoh people before. Sometimes people just don't hear what is said...so I don't think it is always the professional's fault.

Kind of like a couple of my "friends" who listened to everything about Drew for several months (evidently they didn't listen very closely) and then once they saw him with his CI's on asked "so will he have to wear those forever"?

That ticked me off partly because it's an idiotic question, secondly because he said it in a condescending voice, and third because if he really cared or was listening he would have known the answer. He just doesn't get it and probably tells people he knows that Drew is "cured", even though that has never come out of my mouth

I agree with you almost always people who make that sort of comment are either stupid or just don't take the time to really listen or are in denial like my mom.
Once my daughter was about 3 and had be hearing with hearings aids for about a year. She was doing pretty good talking in about 2 to 3 word phrases. We were at birthday party at my mom's home. One of her friends was looking at her hearing aides. My mom came up to her and saw her staring and told her you know she is only going have to wear them for a couple of months. I overheard my mom, I didn't say anything just picked up my kids and went home. My mom comment hurt me so much because it was like she was accepting my daughter and her deafness. I didn't see my mom for a about a year. We moved away.
Even now my mom will still tell me why am I fighting so much with the school if the kids talk well and get good grades. She has no idea how much work it is to make sure that the kids are doing well and that the schools are doing what they need to be doing. I have found so much more support from other parents instead of my family.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

I am a deaf person who was born deaf (not a "ex-hearing person" whom lost hearing after birth but pure born deaf) and I sign ASL PSE ASL and I hang out around deaf commuities also have many deaf friends.

I was implanted 4 year ago and CI is a cool device, I like it but it does not restore or fix my deafness or allow me back into hearing world or make me a better speaking person.

CI is much more powerful than a hearing aid and more crisp sound allowing me to get by in this world alittle better than before. CI is more easier for me to maintain than a hearing aids as well too.

I have met many pure deaf folks with CIs before I made a decision to be implanted and none of them claimed that "It will restore hearing and or allow them to be in hearing world like if they were a hearing person" so based on my experience .......

I am sorry to say your full of it.

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RIGHT ON

 

[Drew's Dad]

Is this directed at me?

Seems you avoid all answer.. you don't want answer this..
officially you don't accept your child is DEAF.. you wanted solution the problem ci for your child and part of Hearing world.. why you're here part of Deaf Community? Doesn't make sense.. all you want push Deaf people out and take over this thread.. control..

If so, how did you gather this response below (and the above post)...

you're gone too far brainwashed by agbell or doctor, aren't you?
Why can't you accept your child is DEAF?
you're cry your child is DEAF.. you want your child is "FIXED"

from this...

Whether a CI is a "miracle device" or whether CI's allow deaf persons to function or "be back" in the hearing world does not have anything to do with whether a person is deaf or not.

You can be deaf and not "in" the hearing world, and you can be deaf and be "in" the hearing world - or both. Cochlear implants help some people to be what they consider to be more "in" the hearing world.

Answer what? Where am I trying to push someone out, or take over a thread? Where am I saying my child is not deaf, Deaf, or DEAF, or DEAF? Is this just a matter of capitalization games or what...because I don't see any possible way that one can gather that I don't acknowledge my son is DEAF from my original post which describes how just because one may have a CI to help them function in the "hearing world", it doesn't mean they are not deaf, Deaf, or DEAF any longer.

Anyone?

 

[jackiesolorzano]

You have it backward, CI folks are turn off by deaf people with an attuide acting high and mighty or "deaf pride" againist deaf people whom want a CI before they died to see what it like to hear more sound than they would had heard without or with a hearing aid.

I never though I was any better than a deaf person next to me growing up or after I gotten a CI but I do know I am better than a deaf person who insult CI'er with unsupported remarks or unsupported edvience or trying to spread false rumor among the deaf commuities like the #1 rumor I always see other deaf people tell me is "You can't take shower or swim anymore after CI" ..

That so sad that a person with deaf pride attuide can start any false rumor with ASL knowing that a hearing person will have a hard time to discredit rumors because they are not speaking in our native ASL langauge and it easier for me to sign in ASL to my deaf friends around me would be suprised wow they fell for a false rumor or swallow fish for nothing.

That why I have strong supportive among my ASL deaf friend because I can open thier mind with my ASL and they will understand more clearly than false rumor among deaf pride.

I am proud of my deafness and never been shame of my deafness but I will never showoff pride or challenage anyone my deafness.



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Love your post, which people would really really really read and understand what you are saying.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

I've always maintained that it is the media that gives people the impression that the CIs are a cure and if I were the parents of that child, I'd want to strangle the host as well. Educating people is always an an endless job and so annoying. Sometimes, it seems like the info doesn't sink in at all.

My parent's maid said to me that my implants were a miracle and I had just worn it for a day and since she was missing a few teeth, I had trouble understanding her. This was the day after my activation. I hoped she wouldn't think it meant that my CI wasn't working. I dread people like her...

You know you are so right that it is the media that says it is a miracle. I remember several years ago I was watching the news. This little girl was on the news, never heard before and they watched her being first turn on. Then her mother from over 6 feet away called her name, and the reporter said it is a miracle she can hear. I was so mad because I know that she wasn't able to hear her mother.

 

[jillio]

But, back to the OP. Do people with a CI need an interpreter?

 

[jackiesolorzano]

you're gone too far brainwashed by agbell or doctor, aren't you?
Why can't you accept your child is DEAF?
you're cry your child is DEAF.. you want your child is "FIXED"

You have no idea what you are talking about. I am a parent of 2 teenaged deaf children with implants. No one brainwashed me. I can think for myself and make informed decisions.

I can accept and have accepted that my children are deaf. I did not want my child fixed because the cochlear implant did not fix my children's hearing. The implant gave them access to sound.
The problem is that people like you cannot accept that my children are deaf and are able to oral.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

agBAD doesn't approve an interpreter provide you CI users... reason want you LEARN and LISTEN AND TALK!!!
SAD!
By Identifying families whose cases can help establish law, ABAD seeks to raise public awareness that children with hearing loss should have the opportunity to LEARN TO LISTEN AND TALK, and that both are the early intervention and education systems should support family's choices. WHO SAY THAT??? it's frigg'n AGBAD!

WHile AG Bell did not help me get an interpeter, they did give me some information on how to start my battle for CART for deaf cochlear implanted teenagers. You know who helped me even more was hands and voices. If this organization can help us parents of oral deaf teenagers why can't you accept it.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

It is the school's responsibility to provide access to the academic curriculum. They are not bound to reinforce communication choice, but communication choice must be considered when providing accommodation. Speech therapy is considered to be an adjunct service.

I am not sure about the special education laws that affect deaf children in other states but in California, it states that the school must respect and encourgae the child's preferred mode of communication. They are bounded by the parents choice of communication mode.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Sometimes there does not seem to be any need of a reason..
Just try to ignore the shouting & ranting..

Our children and not Deaf. They are deaf and they can hear.!

You got it our children and yes they are deaf, they can hear and they can talk. Verdict in

 

[jillio]

I am not sure about the special education laws that affect deaf children in other states but in California, it states that the school must respect and encourgae the child's preferred mode of communication. They are bounded by the parents choice of communication mode.

No they are bound to take the child's preferred mode of communication into account when determining accommodation. They are not bound to take the parent's preferred mode for the child into consideration. California is bound by the same federal laws as all the states.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

Im not yelling or ranting you.. excuse me. I'm here asking..
Can't you accept "DEAF" child?
That simple , reason to recognized "Big capital" word for DEAF. or you prefer tiny word "deaf".

That means your child is lost their identify..

I like to ask you, if suppose your child's ci broken.. will you dare have your child under the knife again and to replace it ?
You have to ask your child first before under the knife or.. you prefer decision not child's rights?

Cloggy please excuse me if I put words in your mouth but I sort of think I know how you feel.
We can accept our children are deaf, can you accept that our children are deaf and not Deaf. Why do you think all deaf babies have to be Deaf.

My children have not lost their identify. They know that first they come from parents that love them, second, they are first generation Americans. We are proud of our background. Third they are deaf. Fourth they are deaf teenagers that have implants that are oral deaf.

 

[jillio]

But, does a person with a CI need an interperter?

 

[jackiesolorzano]

No they are bound to take the child's preferred mode of communication into account when determining accommodation. They are not bound to take the parent's preferred mode for the child into consideration. California is bound by the same federal laws as all the states.

I beg to differ. This does go back to orginial reason why this thread was develop. With our first verdict for CART, we won because the judge stated that the school did not respect and encourage my daughter primary and preferred mode of communication. The school district wanted to put an interpeter with my daughter. We told them no because mu daughter is oral. When my daughter tesified, she told the judge what she needed. Here is the law has it is written in CA, it is Education Code 56000.5; children who are deaf and hard of hearing to be educated in an environment that respects and uses their preferred mode of communication.

Each deaf and Deaf child is different so some may need an interpeter, or a note takes, or CART, or C-print. You to base the decision on the child's needs not what we think they might need.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

But, does a person with a CI need an interperter?

It depends on the person some may need it and some may not.

 

[jillio]

It depends on the person some may need it and some may not.

Thanks for getting back to the topic.

 

[lumbingmi]

No it does not sound like a radio, a hearing aide is like a radio. Adults who get implant some I have heard say that it sounds like donald duck under water and then with time it becomes more clearer, but each person is different.

Ah cool. thanks for educating ignorant deaf people like me