Does CI person need interpreter?

[shel90]

False, deaf community are turned off by deaf people w/ CI's "I m better than you" attitudes. Some may contribute to jealous , resentment, or deafhood. But it s more of CI folks turned deaf people off with their arrogant. Also, it is IRONY that deaf pp with CI throw/hide their CI whenever they are around deaf people. WTF?

I have only met one CIer who had that attitude that u are speaking of. The others are fine and they dont hide their CIs. What I encounter are the parents who insist that their children be around hearing children rather than other deaf children especially those who sign. That is very hurtful to me because they are teaching their children to grow up with that attitude.

 

[lumbingmi]

I have only met one CIer who had that attitude that u are speaking of. The others are fine and they dont hide their CIs. What I encounter are the parents who insist that their children be around hearing children rather than other deaf children especially those who sign. That is very hurtful to me because they are teaching their children to grow up with that attitude.

Yet parents are very warm to terps who work with their children in public school.

 

[Drew's Dad]

This situation shows proof that there are doctors, audis and experts giving the public this misinformation and perhaps the media got that impression and started calling the CI a cure. Then, the Deaf community sees that on TV and newspapers and hence we have this controversity.

Shel, it's not always professionals that are causing the misunderstanding. Much of it, imo, is just that people don't understand, period. A friend of Drew's who also has bilateral implants was covered in a radio story within the last year.

His parents talked to the person doing the interview for over an hour, and explained everything. They answered questions on the air, described his education and surgery, etc. Everything went well and I suppose the listeners learned a lot.

However, at the very end of the interview the host says "And this little boy will never know that he was deaf."

The parents wanted to strangle this host. Not only is it the dumbest remarks ever made, but it was directly contrary to things they mentioned, such as him asking for help putting the CI's on, etc.

This host just doesn't get it, I assume because she has never been around deaf and hoh people before. Sometimes people just don't hear what is said...so I don't think it is always the professional's fault.

Kind of like a couple of my "friends" who listened to everything about Drew for several months (evidently they didn't listen very closely) and then once they saw him with his CI's on asked "so will he have to wear those forever"?

That ticked me off partly because it's an idiotic question, secondly because he said it in a condescending voice, and third because if he really cared or was listening he would have known the answer. He just doesn't get it and probably tells people he knows that Drew is "cured", even though that has never come out of my mouth

 

[Drew's Dad]

Nope, Deaf pp with CI and hearing people will disagree with you. They claimed that CI is work of miracle and restoring deaf to be back in hearing world. :sure:

Whether a CI is a "miracle device" or whether CI's allow deaf persons to function or "be back" in the hearing world does not have anything to do with whether a person is deaf or not.

You can be deaf and not "in" the hearing world, and you can be deaf and be "in" the hearing world - or both. Cochlear implants help some people to be what they consider to be more "in" the hearing world.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

It's up to the CI'er, only the CI'er would know how well s/he can hear to get by in the classes without interpreters or not. Even though I am doing really well with my CI, if I was back in school - I will still request interpreters for all classes because I want to be on the safe side, still have my 'terps & not have to work so hard at listening thru out the whole class, especially since college classes run much longer than HS classes!

Yep, I am with you on that one, I feel extacly the same way. You got that right.

 

[Drew's Dad]

False, deaf community are turned off by deaf people w/ CI's "I m better than you" attitudes. Some may contribute to jealous , resentment, or deafhood. But it s more of CI folks turned deaf people off with their arrogant. Also, it is ironythat deaf pp with CI throw/hide their CI whenever they are around deaf people. hmm..

I don't doubt that there are some people with CI's that behave poorly like you say. That's too bad.

I assume that some persons with CI's hide them when around other deaf people because they are worried that they will be put down or ridiculed for their decision to get an implant. Some of those people are probably turned off by what they consider to be arrogant deaf people who for some reason feel they should be able to dictate what others can do with their bodies, what language they should use, and who they should associate with.

 

[lovezebras]

in answer to the q does ci person need terp. I think if they need it and say they need it then yes. If ha user can get terp and services why wouldn't a ci user not be able to get same services...wouldn't make sense...

 

[R2D2]

False, deaf community are turned off by deaf people w/ CI's "I m better than you" attitudes. Some may contribute to jealous , resentment, or deafhood. But it s more of CI folks turned deaf people off with their arrogant. Also, it is ironythat deaf pp with CI throw/hide their CI whenever they are around deaf people. hmm..

Drew's dad hit the nail on the head. If I was going to take off my CI at a deaf event, it would be because I would be concerned about people not being very friendly to me and thinking I was "better than them."

CI users are no better or worse than any other group. Sure you have some losers but also many people worth knowing too.

 

[Cloggy]

Shel, it's not always professionals that are causing the misunderstanding. Much of it, imo, is just that people don't understand, period. A friend of Drew's who also has bilateral implants was covered in a radio story within the last year.

His parents talked to the person doing the interview for over an hour, and explained everything. They answered questions on the air, described his education and surgery, etc. Everything went well and I suppose the listeners learned a lot.

However, at the very end of the interview the host says "And this little boy will never know that he was deaf."

The parents wanted to strangle this host. Not only is it the dumbest remarks ever made, but it was directly contrary to things they mentioned, such as him asking for help putting the CI's on, etc.

This host just doesn't get it, I assume because she has never been around deaf and hoh people before. Sometimes people just don't hear what is said...so I don't think it is always the professional's fault.

Kind of like a couple of my "friends" who listened to everything about Drew for several months (evidently they didn't listen very closely) and then once they saw him with his CI's on asked "so will he have to wear those forever"?

That ticked me off partly because it's an idiotic question, secondly because he said it in a condescending voice, and third because if he really cared or was listening he would have known the answer. He just doesn't get it and probably tells people he knows that Drew is "cured", even though that has never come out of my mouth

 

[TechBill]

Nope, Deaf pp with CI and hearing people will disagree with you. They claimed that CI is work of miracle and restoring deaf to be back in hearing world. :sure:

I am a deaf person who was born deaf (not a "ex-hearing person" whom lost hearing after birth but pure born deaf) and I sign ASL PSE ASL and I hang out around deaf commuities also have many deaf friends.

I was implanted 4 year ago and CI is a cool device, I like it but it does not restore or fix my deafness or allow me back into hearing world or make me a better speaking person.

CI is much more powerful than a hearing aid and more crisp sound allowing me to get by in this world alittle better than before. CI is more easier for me to maintain than a hearing aids as well too.

I have met many pure deaf folks with CIs before I made a decision to be implanted and none of them claimed that "It will restore hearing and or allow them to be in hearing world like if they were a hearing person" so based on my experience .......

I am sorry to say your full of it.

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[TechBill]

False, deaf community are turned off by deaf people w/ CI's "I m better than you" attitudes. Some may contribute to jealous , resentment, or deafhood. But it s more of CI folks turned deaf people off with their arrogant. Also, it is ironythat deaf pp with CI throw/hide their CI whenever they are around deaf people. hmm..

You have it backward, CI folks are turn off by deaf people with an attuide acting high and mighty or "deaf pride" againist deaf people whom want a CI before they died to see what it like to hear more sound than they would had heard without or with a hearing aid.

I never though I was any better than a deaf person next to me growing up or after I gotten a CI but I do know I am better than a deaf person who insult CI'er with unsupported remarks or unsupported edvience or trying to spread false rumor among the deaf commuities like the #1 rumor I always see other deaf people tell me is "You can't take shower or swim anymore after CI" ..

That so sad that a person with deaf pride attuide can start any false rumor with ASL knowing that a hearing person will have a hard time to discredit rumors because they are not speaking in our native ASL langauge and it easier for me to sign in ASL to my deaf friends around me would be suprised wow they fell for a false rumor or swallow fish for nothing.

That why I have strong supportive among my ASL deaf friend because I can open thier mind with my ASL and they will understand more clearly than false rumor among deaf pride.

I am proud of my deafness and never been shame of my deafness but I will never showoff pride or challenage anyone my deafness.



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[LadySekhmet]

Nope, Deaf pp with CI and hearing people will disagree with you. They claimed that CI is work of miracle and restoring deaf to be back in hearing world. :sure:

False, deaf community are turned off by deaf people w/ CI's "I m better than you" attitudes. Some may contribute to jealous , resentment, or deafhood. But it s more of CI folks turned deaf people off with their arrogant. Also, it is ironythat deaf pp with CI throw/hide their CI whenever they are around deaf people. hmm..

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[Reba]

The doctor told the school to treat them like they can hear like hearing kids??? That is scary! Oh, I cant imagine the struggles those kids got afterwards if the schools stopped giving them resources! Wow!

The teacher should have written back a note saying:

"If you promise not to tell me how to teach, I promise not to tell you how to do surgery."

 

[deafskeptic]

Shel, it's not always professionals that are causing the misunderstanding. Much of it, imo, is just that people don't understand, period. A friend of Drew's who also has bilateral implants was covered in a radio story within the last year.

His parents talked to the person doing the interview for over an hour, and explained everything. They answered questions on the air, described his education and surgery, etc. Everything went well and I suppose the listeners learned a lot.

However, at the very end of the interview the host says "And this little boy will never know that he was deaf."

The parents wanted to strangle this host. Not only is it the dumbest remarks ever made, but it was directly contrary to things they mentioned, such as him asking for help putting the CI's on, etc.

This host just doesn't get it, I assume because she has never been around deaf and hoh people before. Sometimes people just don't hear what is said...so I don't think it is always the professional's fault.

Kind of like a couple of my "friends" who listened to everything about Drew for several months (evidently they didn't listen very closely) and then once they saw him with his CI's on asked "so will he have to wear those forever"?

That ticked me off partly because it's an idiotic question, secondly because he said it in a condescending voice, and third because if he really cared or was listening he would have known the answer. He just doesn't get it and probably tells people he knows that Drew is "cured", even though that has never come out of my mouth

I've always maintained that it is the media that gives people the impression that the CIs are a cure and if I were the parents of that child, I'd want to strangle the host as well. Educating people is always an an endless job and so annoying. Sometimes, it seems like the info doesn't sink in at all.

My parent's maid said to me that my implants were a miracle and I had just worn it for a day and since she was missing a few teeth, I had trouble understanding her. This was the day after my activation. I hoped she wouldn't think it meant that my CI wasn't working. I dread people like her...

 

[neecy]

Nope, Deaf pp with CI and hearing people will disagree with you. They claimed that CI is work of miracle and restoring deaf to be back in hearing world. :sure:

I just wanted to say. I consider my CI a miracle, and it has helped me interact with greater ease in the hearing world, but *I am still deaf* and always will be. Don't lump everybody together.

 

[deafdyke]

CI folks are turn off by deaf people with an attuide acting high and mighty or "deaf pride" againist deaf people whom want a CI before they died to see what it like to hear more sound than they would had heard without or with a hearing aid.

Well, on the other hand I really think there's fault on both sides. I've seen the Deafie shunning, but I've also seen a hell of a lot more oral deaf/CI shunning the Deaf world.

 

[jillio]

I don't doubt that there are some people with CI's that behave poorly like you say. That's too bad.

I assume that some persons with CI's hide them when around other deaf people because they are worried that they will be put down or ridiculed for their decision to get an implant. Some of those people are probably turned off by what they consider to be arrogant deaf people who for some reason feel they should be able to dictate what others can do with their bodies, what language they should use, and who they should associate with.

Likewise with arrogant hearing people who wish to dictate same to deaf people.

 

[jillio]

I've always maintained that it is the media that gives people the impression that the CIs are a cure and if I were the parents of that child, I'd want to strangle the host as well. Educating people is always an an endless job and so annoying. Sometimes, it seems like the info doesn't sink in at all.

My parent's maid said to me that my implants were a miracle and I had just worn it for a day and since she was missing a few teeth, I had trouble understanding her. This was the day after my activation. I hoped she wouldn't think it meant that my CI wasn't working. I dread people like her...

Granted, the media is at fault to a great extent. However, parents need to be receiving that inforamtion which negates the portrayal that the media is providing. The media will always sensationalize. The medical community, the educational community, and the deaf community needs to band together to insure that accurate information is provided to all parents of newly diagnosed children.

 

[jillio]

The teacher should have written back a note saying:

"If you promise not to tell me how to teach, I promise not to tell you how to do surgery."

Good one!

 

[Drew's Dad]

Likewise with arrogant hearing people who wish to dictate same to deaf people.

That's what lumbingmi was discussing in the first place.