doctors cannot ask about guns

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Jiro said:
then you believe erosion of Amendment 4 and 5?

"if you got nothing to hide, then you should answer our questions."
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The patient is not mandated to answer any questions posed by the doctor. They have every right to refuse. Does that mean that the question should not be asked?
 
Jiro said:
then you believe erosion of Amendment 4 and 5?

"if you got nothing to hide, then you should answer our questions."
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Well, the patients don't take an oath while they are in the doctor's office, you know. It's not exactly a courtroom either.
 
You know, it is a sad state of affairs when fear of Second Amendment rights being interferred with (unrealistically) takes precedence over the lives and safety of children.
 
jillio said:
Like I said, pediatricians ask many questions related to child safety. I guess they aren't supposed to be concerned with preventing injury and death of children?
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again - tell us, not ask us. and doctors are not raising their children. It's none of their business but it can be their business when they suspect child abuse.

Beside - we already have laws that punish parents after the incident. I'm not interested in government taking action to tell us what to do and what not to do in the name of safety.

I believe in common sense. One should be severely punished after the incident, not before the incident.
 
jillio said:
You know, it is a sad state of affairs when fear of Second Amendment rights being interferred with (unrealistically) takes precedence over the lives and safety of children.
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I find it even sadder when government and doctors are telling us what to do with our children and how to raise our children.
 
Jiro said:
again - tell us, not ask us. and doctors are not raising their children. It's none of their business but it can be their business when they suspect child abuse.

Beside - we already have laws that punish parents after the incident. I'm not interested in government taking action to tell us what to do and what not to do in the name of safety.

I believe in common sense. One should be severely punished after the incident, not before the incident.
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If you believe in common sense, why aren't you using it now? How does asking a question relate to punishment?
 
jillio said:
Nope. General practitioners and pediatricians report them. Which is why they need to be permitted to ask questions pertinent to child safety.
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If it is relevant to a specific case. Not as a routine question.

Routine questioning often does good. Why are you afraid of a simple question being asked? If one is doing nothing wrong, the question is nothing more than a simple quesion.
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That's the exact kind of doctor intimidation to which I was referring. Put the onus on the parent or patient instead of providing a justification for the question.

If the doctors really are more concerned about gun safety they wouldn't ask if there was a gun in the home. Kids can come across guns in any location. The better "safety" question would be, "do you know about gun safety; do you know what to do if you see a gun?" Then, provide the family with an Eddie Eagle pamphlet to take home. Even families who don't own guns should teach their kids about gun safety so they know what to do if they see one in their friend's house or on the street.
 
Banjo said:
Well, the patients don't take an oath while they are in the doctor's office, you know. It's not exactly a courtroom either.
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one will be or can be reported to police.
 
Jiro said:
again - tell us, not ask us. and doctors are not raising their children. It's none of their business but it can be their business when they suspect child abuse.

Beside - we already have laws that punish parents after the incident. I'm not interested in government taking action to tell us what to do and what not to do in the name of safety.

I believe in common sense. One should be severely punished after the incident, not before the incident.
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The doctors aren't the government.

It's the government who is dictating what questions can be asked and what cannot be.
 
Reba said:
If it is relevant to a specific case. Not as a routine question.


That's the exact kind of doctor intimidation to which I was referring. Put the onus on the parent or patient instead of providing a justification for the question.

If the doctors really are more concerned about gun safety they wouldn't ask if there was a gun in the home. Kids can come across guns in any location. The better "safety" question would be, "do you know about gun safety; do you know what to do if you see a gun?" Then, provide the family with an Eddie Eagle pamphlet to take home. Even families who don't own guns should teach their kids about gun safety so they know what to do if they see one in their friend's house or on the street.
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How many kids are you willing to risk to support the NRA's position?
 
jillio said:
The patient is not mandated to answer any questions posed by the doctor. They have every right to refuse. Does that mean that the question should not be asked?
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It should not be asked if doctors have no "reasonable probable cause". As I said in my post #59 - I'll need examples/scenarios. There has to be a reasonable probable cause for doctors to ask about gun possession as out of concern for child's safety.
 
Jiro said:
It should not be asked if doctors have no "reasonable probable cause". As I said in my post #59 - I'll need examples/scenarios. There has to be a reasonable probable cause for doctors to ask about gun possession as out of concern for child's safety.
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So, a child shows no symptoms of diabetes. The doctor should not be allowed to inquire about family history and diet?
 
jillio said:
You know, it is a sad state of affairs when fear of Second Amendment rights being interferred with (unrealistically) takes precedence over the lives and safety of children.
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That's baloney, and trying to lay a guilt trip on parents is intimidation.

People can exercise their Second Amendment rights without endangering their children.
 
Banjo said:
Hmm, I'm not sure where that one came from. Did you eat paint chips as a child?
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if one suspected child abuse, one reports to police yes?
 
jillio said:
The hiistory of the NRA and their positions are support enough. This incident notwithstanding.
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You have proof that they've passed gun laws based on one complaint to the NRA?
 
Why are we talking about doctors as if they would read us our Miranda rights?
 
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