doctors cannot ask about guns

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Jiro said:
huh interesting. what are the 2 states that don't require reporting? I have a feeling that it's Alaska and Vermont.
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I cannot find the answer to that. Arrgghh, can someone let me know?
 
Are you guys implying children don't get suicidal depressions? Or that people don't threaten to shoot their children if they don't behave?
 
souggy said:
Are you guys implying children don't get suicidal depressions? Or that people don't threaten their children to shoot them if they don't behave?
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Yep. They seem to think that all gun owners are taking precautions against every possible scenario.
 
souggy said:
Are you guys implying children don't get suicidal depressions?
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then doctors would report their concerns to children's parents and it's parents' responsibility to take preventative measure for it. Doctors can share their advice but they should not ask about it such as "Please make sure you put away everything and lock it up like prescription drugs, knives, guns, etc."

not - "Do you have a gun at home? oohhhhh IIIII sssseeee *noting it in the file*"

souggy said:
Or that people don't threaten their children to shoot them if they don't behave?
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then doctors would report to police and/or social worker and from there - they will eventually find out about gun possession.
 
Jiro said:
then doctors would report their concerns to children's parents and it's parents' responsibility to take preventative measure for it.


then doctors would report to police and/or social worker and from there - they will eventually find out about gun possession.
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You are a little confused about mandated reporting laws.
 
The question should be, why are they making it illegal for the doctor to ask such a question? It's not like they are going to report the parents for owning guns.

What's the ulterior motive behind the legislation?
 
jillio said:
And you really think that pediatricians are asking every patient if there is a gun in the home. Please, Reba. Get real.
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Not 100 percent. But, "Pediatricians commonly ask this question as a prelude to discussing gun safety in order to prevent accidents."

This problem has been around for years. It's been a common question on medical questionnaires. I've been reading about it for over 10 years, although this is the first time I've heard about a state making a law against it.

Anyway, if you believe it is such a hazard, then following that logic, the doctors should ask every patient that question.

However, to restrict their ability to ask the question when it is deemed necessary based on individual circumstance is to put children at greater risk.
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That's why we say, then it's OK to ask that when it's relevant but not as a routine question.
 
Banjo said:
The question should be, why are they making it illegal for the doctor to ask such a question?

What's the ulterior motive behind the legislation?
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Exactly. The NRA can be a little extreme in some of their proposals.
 
Banjo said:
The question should be, why are they making it illegal for the doctor to ask such a question?

What's the ulterior motive behind the legislation?
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one pissed-off grandma with deep pocket :)

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Jiro said:
then doctors would report their concerns to children's parents and it's parents' responsibility to take preventative measure for it. Doctors can share their advice but they should not ask about it such as "Please make sure you put away everything and lock it up like prescription drugs, knives, guns, etc."

not - "Do you have a gun at home? oohhhhh IIIII sssseeee *noting it in the file*"


then doctors would report to police and/or social worker and from there - they will eventually find out about gun possession.
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You have no idea how social services and foster care work then. They have to keep track of everything.
 
Bleach is a household hazard, so is a steak knife. Gun is considered a household hazard if it's not secured. *shrugs*

It's nothing new.
 
souggy said:
You have no idea how social services and foster care works then.
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it's really of no concern to me because this thread is not about child safety. This is about doctors asking patients about gun possession.
 
Jiro said:
it's really of no concern to me because this thread is not about child safety. This is about doctors asking patients about gun possession.
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Connect the dots. Gun possession is related to child safety. If it wasn't we would not have kids dying by getting ahold of their parents' guns.:cool2:
 
If the doctor repeats the question in subsequent visits, he/she may be liable to even heftier fines.
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Sounds like a case of odd version of communism to me.
 
jillio said:
Connect the dots. Gun possession is related to child safety. If it wasn't we would not have kids dying by getting ahold of their parents' guns.:cool2:
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which is why I'm asking you how would doctors (not mental health professional) connect the dots.

I'll need examples/scenarios. There has to be a reasonable probable cause for doctors to ask about gun possession as out of concern for child's safety.
 
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