doctors cannot ask about guns

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Jiro said:
My priority is both and the laws. I do not believe in bending over laws in the name of safety. Guns protect children too from kidnappers, robbers, intruders, or animals.

I see that you have been unable to give me any scenario to how doctors come up with a reason to ask about gun possession as out of concern for child's safety.
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I don't think an animal care if you own a gun or not. In fact, most people can't even aim when there's an animal charging at them. So stick with people.
 
Banjo said:
That's what happen to people who put themselves into that position. Doctors and patients are supposed to be able to trust each other. If they cannot trust each other, then they shouldn't continue their relationship.
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sorry but that "good ole'" time is gone. One's word can be used against oneself. This is what we get for living in a litigious country.
 
souggy said:
I don't think an animal care if you own a gun or not. In fact, most people can't even aim when there's an animal charging at them. So stick with people.
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um... aiming is not needed if you have a shotgun :cool2:
 
Reba said:
Yes, indeed. But would it have been prevented by a doctor asking a child if the parents owned a gun?
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It could have been. Are you willing to risk even one death that could have been prevented?
 
Jiro said:
I see that you have been unable to give me any scenario to how doctors come up with a reason to ask about gun possession as out of concern for child's safety.
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Let's not kid ourselves, the NRA proved that any laws can be bought.
 
jillio said:
Please cite an instance where a doctor has ever refused treatment for a patient who refused to answer a question if that question was not pertinent to treatment.

Yeah, pedicatricians have nothing better to do than notify every insurance carrier, every social service agency, and every police dept. of the name and address of every parent who owns a gun.:roll:
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but it can happen, yes?
 
Jiro said:
sorry but that "good ole'" time is gone. One's word can be used against oneself. This is what we get for living in a litigious country.
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Dude, that is the stuff paranoia is made of.:cool2:
 
Jiro said:
sorry but that "good ole'" time is gone. One's word can be used against oneself. This is what we get for living in a litigious country.
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That's a dangerous mentality to subscribe to.
 
Jiro said:
um... aiming is not needed if you have a shotgun :cool2:
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Surprisingly, bear mace are more efficient than shotguns; because most people are pissing their pants trying to point in the right direction.

So stick with people. Only people know about the dangers of firearms.
 
jillio said:
Who is "us"?

It only takes one accidental shot to the head to give a kid an unnecessary, and fatal, headache.
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and the parents will be severely punished for it. I have no problem with that.
 
souggy said:
Surprisingly, bear mace are more efficient than shotguns; because most people are pissing their pants trying to point in the right direction.
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so are you telling me what to do?

btw - Bear Mace has an expiration date. Shotgun doesn't :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
so are you telling me what to do?

btw - Bear Mace has an expiration date. Shotgun doesn't :cool2:
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You really did inhale plastic fumes as a child. How the hell did you interpret "facts" as "telling people what to do"?
 
jillio said:
Please cite an instance where a doctor has ever refused treatment for a patient who refused to answer a question if that question was not pertinent to treatment.
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A Mom took her toddler to their pediatrician, who had been the child’s pediatrician since he was born.

Out of the clear, the pediatrician asked if she or her husband owned any guns. She was shocked and responded by asking, “Do YOU own a gun?”

He told her that whether or not HE owned a gun was none of her business. She responded by saying “right back at you.” The doctor got angry and walked out of the room.

The mom waited for 30 minutes before a nurse came in and said the doctor wasn’t coming back so she could leave. She dressed her son and left without the child ever being examined.

The doctor’s office sent her a bill, because she walked out without paying. She wouldn’t pay the bill because the doctor walked out without examining her child.

The bill was turned over to a collection agency. The collection agency started harassing the family and threatening their credit.

Her husband hired a lawyer. The doctor told the lawyer it was all the Mom’s fault, because she wouldn’t answer his question and as a doctor, he had a right to ask any “damn” thing he wanted to.

The doctor’s lawyer then got involved and advised the doctor to cancel the bill and apologize to the family. The doctor canceled the bill, but never apologized. Then told the family to find a new doctor.
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STOP Doctors Violating Patient's Gun Privacy Rights in Florida

Yeah, pedicatricians have nothing better to do than notify every insurance carrier, every social service agency, and every police dept. of the name and address of every parent who owns a gun.:roll:
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It doesn't take much effort with a computer.

This bill comes in answer to families who are complaining about the growing political agenda being carried out in examination rooms by doctors and medical staffs – and the arrogant berating if a patient refuses to answer questions that violate privacy rights and offend common decency.

Horrified parents have described nurses entering the answers to gun questions into laptop computers to become a part of medical records. Parents have become concerned about whether those records can be used by the government or by insurance companies to deny health care coverage because a family exercises a civil right in owning firearms.

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the American Medical Association are pushing this gun ban agenda. The website of the AAP makes it clear its goal is to ban guns and to prevent parents from having guns in their homes or vehicles.

The intent of some may be to stop death from firearms accidents, but it is worth noting that, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics, doctors and medical staffs in Florida are responsible for six times more accidental deaths (called “Medical Misadventures”) than firearms accidents. Physicians have plenty of room to work in their own backyards to stop accidental deaths in keeping with their “first do no harm” medical oaths.

Keeping children and families safe is a worthy goal, but physicians should focus on what happens to children and patients in their offices and hospitals. Doctors should practice medicine rather than behave like social workers, gun monitors or gun registration bureaus.
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jillio said:
The patient is not mandated to answer any questions posed by the doctor. They have every right to refuse. Does that mean that the question should not be asked?
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Exactly!!! People don't even have to answer!!! This is ridiculous!!!

Might as well ban mechanics from asking their clients "How many kids do you have?"

If you responded "huh??" to the above statement, that's exactly how I responded to the OP.
 
Banjo said:
Your point being? Even your next-door neighbour can report you to the social services.
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And usually for a lot less valid reason than a doctor or a mental health professional. They will do it just because they don't like the way you look!
 
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