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Cheri said:
What if God Choose A Person Cuz that Person is drawn to Him by the Holy Spirits.. accepted Jesus Christ as the person's savior, that Person accepted Him into him or Her heart and immediately… What if that person experienced a passion for Him that could not be quenched by anyone or anything! As His new disciple, each day was a new adventure and his or her passion and love for Him equaled his or her zeal to find where He was each day and follow after Him in complete abandonment! As the weeks went by, He became him or Her whole life, His/Her devotion to Him was undivided and He was his or her complete reason for living. As their friendship grew, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, Whom had chosen him or her and given either of them a new life, with a great future! Each day of their new life in Christ, They might experienced what it meant to “be found in Him” and searched for and unearthed new treasures from His word and began to experience fresh revelation that brought new growth and continued to fuel the passion that had for Him. Life went on and from day to glorious day, was so satisfied with Him and content to just, “be His” and follow after His lead... What I want to Know is that possible? Because some People Do not have proof that these things can happen. But , Maybe its the Truth that maybe u weren't choosing to be picked? To tell others about God...Those who don't think God Exits...

Word ! He knows Who or Which person's heart that will ACCEPT Him as their Saviour and to draw that person closer to Him, because that person's heart is open towards Him without closin' in. Remma that story about David's brothers ? Well, God saw his brothers' hearts and found there's none and He found David's heart and knew that David is the one. That was how God choses him and knows when David's heart is ready. Amazin', isn't it ? I started to open my heart when I was 18 years old when a deaf man took me to his church. He preached the Word of God to me in a metro bus when I jumped in to take me home. lol ! That was how I got to experience with God ever since. And, of course there were many occurrences in my life that I never forget. ;) (David - David the Shepherd)
 
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I Samuel Chapters 16-18

David was the youngest of the eight sons of Jesse. The family lived in Bethlehem, a few miles south of Jerusalem. David took care of his father's sheep in the pasture fields around Bethlehem. He stayed with the sheep day and night, wrapping himself at night in a thick, warm blanket that his mother had woven from the sheep's fluffy gray wool.
Sometimes wild animals would try to steal and eat the young lambs. David was strong and brave and fought the wild animals to rescue the sheep. Once he killed a lion who was stealing a sheep. Another time he killed a bear that was carrying away a lamb. Living in the fields with the animals in his care had made David strong and fearless.

In the long evenings before the flickering yellow firelight he played his harp and sang songs that he made up as he watched over his sleeping animals. He loved to look at the twinkling stars studded in the dark, deep midnight blue sky overhead. He thought about the greatness of God who had created all things. He knew how he loved his sheep and how he was willing to risk his life to protect them.

During his long nights, playing his harp, singing the songs he made up he often thought and sang about God. He sang about God's love and protection of the people God had created. These people were to God like the sheep were to David. Many of the songs were about God and His love and protection of the people who are the sheep of God's pasture are in the book of Psalms, which means "songs" of praise and gratitude to the great God who created the whole universe and all of the animals and people upon the earth.

David's three oldest brothers were soldiers in the army of King Saul. The country was in a desperate battle against the great armies of the Philistines. The Philistines lived in the country south of David's country, and they had many giants who lived in their country. One of the tallest and strongest of the giants was named Goliath, and Goliath had four brothers who also were giants.

Every day and evening for forty days Goliath would stalk to the cliff of the hill upon which the Philistine armies were camped and call across the valley to the hill where King Saul's army were staying.

Goliath yelled, "Choose a man from among you to come fight me. If he can kill me the Philistines will be your servants. If I kill him all of you will become servants of the Philistines."

This thundering giant of a man who was 9 and 3/4 feet tall struck fear into the hearts of King Saul's soldiers. Everyone was terrified of fighting this formidable giant.

One day Jesse gathered bread, wheat and cheeses into a sack and said to David, "Take this bundle of food to your brothers on the battlefront so that they may have good country food to eat."

When David arrived at King Saul's camp on the hill overlooking the valley below the Philistines' camp on the opposite hill David heard Goliath yelling across the valley to the terrified soldiers of Israel.

David knew that God would help him, so he went before King Saul and said, "I will go against this heathen man who defies the armies of the living God."

King Saul answered, "You are not able to go against this Philistine, for you are a young man, and this giant has been a trained soldier all of his life."

David replied,"I used to keep my father's sheep, and when a lion or a bear came and took a lamb from the flock I went after it and delivered the lamb from its mouth and killed the lion or bear. The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the bear will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine."

Since no other soldier was willing to fight the gaint Goliath, King Saul decided to allow David to fight the giant. King Saul took off his heavy iron coat and helmet and dressed David in them. But the armour was too heavy for David. He took off the armourand carried with him only his sling. He stooped at the brook in the valley and gathered five smooth brookstones and placed them in his shepherd's pouch.

The giant Goliath cursed David by his heathen gods and shoulted, "Am I a dog that you come against me with sticks?"

Breathing a quick prayer David placed one of the smooth stones in his sling, drew back his hand and slung the stone quickly straight into the forehead of the giant, dinting his brow deeply. The giant fell face down onto the ground. David quickly ran to his form, grasped the gaint's sword from its sheath, stabbed the gaint with the sword and then cut off the giant's head.

All of the Philistine soldiers ran away in a panic, the soldiers of King Saul chasing them. After all of the Philistines had fled the soldiers plundered their tents, carrying away all of the valuable belongings that the Philistines had left behind. Once again God had come to the resuce of His people, caring for them like a shepherd caring for his beloved sheep.

The people in the towns nearby shouted, danced and sang for joy because of David's victory over Goliath. The women made up songs that said, "King Saul has killed thousand, but David has killed ten thousands."

This song did not make King Saul happy, but the people loved David very much. After King Saul died the people made David their king because God had already selected David years before to be the king. David loved the Lord God with all of his heart and wrote many songs about the love of God. From David's line of children and grandchildren Jesus Christ was born many years later. David is remembered most of all, not just that he killed the giant Goliath with a sling and stone, but because Jesus was known not only as the Son of God but also as the "Son of David".
 
^Angel^ said:
I brought a movie called ' Stigmate '.....One of the BEST movie I ever seen....

It's about a lost soul has just received the wounds of Christ....a shocking message that will after history....The girl who play Frankie Paige is a bold free-spirit with no cares, no worries and absolutely no faith in God...All of that changes when she suddenly begins to suffer the Stigmata---( living wounds of the crucifield Christ )....Bleeding from those miraculous wounds and speaking in an ancident Biblical tongue...But, when a corrupot church official discovers that Frankie is actually channeling an extraoridinary and earth-shattering message that could destroy the Church ...He must silenced her..... Kiernan is another Father who trying to help Frankie risks his life to save her and the message that will rock not only the Roman Catholic Church but the destin of mankind forever.....

' The Kingdom of God is inside you and all around you , not in a building of wood & stone, split a piece of wood, I am Thee, Lift a stone and you will find Me '....
Don't you mean, Stigmata?
 
Sylvia Browne founded a spiritual organization called Society of Novus Spiritus, in April 1986. Novus is Sylvia's monument to God-with no fear, no guilt, no sin, no hell, and no Satan.

You might as well throw out your bible. Novus Spiritus contradicts it in many aspects.

One of God's requirements is to fear Him (that is to respect and reverence Him). Deuteronomy 10:12-13, NIV. "And now, O Israel, what does the Lord your God ask of you but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways, to love Him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to observe the Lord's commands and decrees that I am giving you today for your own good?"

Christ can relieve our guilty conscience. I John 3:19-20, NIV. "This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in His presence whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and He knows everything."

No one is better than another--we all sin. Romans 3:9-10, TLB. "Well, then, are we Jews better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all men alike are sinners, whether Jews or Gentiles. As the Scriptures say, 'No one is good--no one in all the world is innocent.'"

As for Hell, the wicked will be burned up and nothing will remain. It's in the Bible, Malachi 4:1, NIV. "Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire, says the Lord Almighty. Not a root or a branch will be left to them."


Novus Spiritus believes there are there are multiple gods. The exact number of gods is uncertain, but Novus accepts at least two: Om - the Father God, and Azna - the Mother God. They also believe, since God is perfect, all of us have always existed. He did not exist without emotion, suddenly decide to have some, then create us. Just as God always was, so too were all of us. They also believe that the Trinity was developed in the New Testament many thousands of years later.


(Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

If God created in the beginning, that means that God existed before the beginning, because in order to make something you must exist before you make it. God is infinite in that He is without beginning or end. But all spirits had a beginning because they were created by God. As for Mother Azna and multiple gods, according to the bible God said, He's it- the One, the Only.

(Isaiah 45:5) "I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God"


"Let us make man in our own image,
in the likeness of ourselves ...."
This is the only quote Novus Spiritus has to support the idea of Mother Azna. They claim it can't possibly be Jesus or the Holy spirity because the Trinity wasn't established until the New Testament.


I belive that "let us make...." speaks of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as one.

Jesus [the Word] is divine from the beginning and became a man. John1:1,14, NIV. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."


Novus believes that Jesus brought God's word to mankind, and was martyred for it (however, he did not die upon the cross)..

According to the bible, Jesus did die for us. John 1:12 and I Peter 3:18, TLB. "But to all who received [Jesus], He gave the right to become children of God. All they needed to do was to trust Him to save them." "He died once for the sins of all us guilty sinners although He himself was innocent of any sin at any time, that He might bring us safely home to God."

Novus Spiritus believes that the only hell we will ever know is Earth. Yes indeed, we are right-smack-dab in the middle of hell. The current popular myth of Satan, the little red guy, as God's rival, is pure nonsense.

I believe Hell is an event not a place. Revelation 20:9, NIV. "But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."

The entire earth will be cleansed by fire. II Peter 3:10, RSV. "And then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up."

Satan, the devil does exist in the bible, Revelation 12:7-9, TLB. "Then there was war in heaven; Michael and the angels under His command fought the Dragon and his hosts of fallen angels. And the Dragon lost the battle and was forced from heaven. This great Dragon--the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world--was thrown down onto the earth with all his army."

Sylvia's family line includes several practicing psychics and mediums.This familial psychic talent has also passed on to her son Christopher Dufresne.

Don't even get me started on psychics.
What does God say about mediumship? Leviticus 19:31 NIV. "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them."

Mediumship was common among the pagan peoples of the Bible lands. God warned the Children of Israel about it just prior to their entry into the Promised Land of Canaan. Deuteronomy 18:9-12 NIV. "When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord."

People seek counsel from psychic mediums. What is the real source of the messages uttered by these spiritists? An event in the life of the Apostle Paul throws light upon their identity. Acts 16:16-18 NIV. "Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune telling. This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, 'These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved. ' She kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so troubled that he turned around and said to the spirit, 'In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!' At that moment the spirit left her."

I'm not trying to bash people that believe in the Society of Novus Spiritus, my friend is currently following their ways.
I just want to know why Sylvia Browne, a practicing "Christian" has many beliefs that seems to assert the opposite of or even deny parts of the bible. It seems a bit fishy to me, that she is going against God's word. I've seen her shows on Montel Williams, and even Larry King, a lot of it was based on guesses, and cold reads. She made quite a few mistakes, and tried covering it up.
 
I'm not able to access those sites regarding Novus spiritus right now. I'm at work (which is a highschool, and many sites are blocked).

So, I have some more questions.

Again, just curious; about the study groups. You study what? Books? This philosophy of the after life was 'introduced' by who, and when? By Sylvia in 1986?

And I am a little confused that the Bible is used to support some parts, and not others.

I am also confused how the 'after life' would be complete happiness and joy, and yet millions of individuals choose to come back and dwell on this rock, not only that, but they choose to do this several times. It doesn't make sense to me that the 'after life' could be perfect/complete if your spirit is not content.

But, I will read the info on the site when I get home later today.
 
You might as well throw out your bible. Novus Spiritus contradicts it in many aspects.

One of God's requirements is to fear Him (that is to respect and reverence Him). Deuteronomy 10:12-13, NIV. "And now, O Israel, what does the Lord your God ask of you but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways, to love Him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to observe the Lord's commands and decrees that I am giving you today for your own good?"

Christ can relieve our guilty conscience. I John 3:19-20, NIV. "This then is how we know that we belong to the truth, and how we set our hearts at rest in His presence whenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and He knows everything."

No one is better than another--we all sin. Romans 3:9-10, TLB. "Well, then, are we Jews better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all men alike are sinners, whether Jews or Gentiles. As the Scriptures say, 'No one is good--no one in all the world is innocent.'"

As for Hell, the wicked will be burned up and nothing will remain. It's in the Bible, Malachi 4:1, NIV. "Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and that day that is coming will set them on fire, says the Lord Almighty. Not a root or a branch will be left to them."

Based upon the law of opposites, there could not be good without evil and God cannot be without the Devil. Without opposites there would be no room for life’s experience. Man was created in the image of God! What is the difference between two images? None, you are God and your future is nothing else than the reincarnation of your thoughts. You were born with God’s spark in your soul and you are the sole creator of your destiny.
Fear-God is not loveable. i believe is God is blameless cuz God is love.



(Genesis 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

If God created in the beginning, that means that God existed before the beginning, because in order to make something you must exist before you make it. God is infinite in that He is without beginning or end. But all spirits had a beginning because they were created by God. As for Mother Azna and multiple gods, according to the bible God said, He's it- the One, the Only.

(Isaiah 45:5) "I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God"


I belive that "let us make...." speaks of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as one.

Jesus [the Word] is divine from the beginning and became a man. John1:1,14, NIV. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . . The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."


According to the bible, Jesus did die for us. John 1:12 and I Peter 3:18, TLB. "But to all who received [Jesus], He gave the right to become children of God. All they needed to do was to trust Him to save them." "He died once for the sins of all us guilty sinners although He himself was innocent of any sin at any time, that He might bring us safely home to God."

There were a couple of passages in the Bible that really struck me. The first one was, "and God created the stars and heaven" and the other one, "God made man in his image". If that is so, then I am God somewhere, somehow and so is everyone else. Consequently, no limits were imposed upon my curious mind. Again, Jesus is myth, its invented later in bible. But honestly, all of this is mythology. It has absolutely nothing to do with men and women, mothers or fathers. It has to do with balance. Mythology is a coded language speaking of the relationship of astronomy (the universe) and anatomy (you). It is the balance of Positive and Negative, Male and Female, Yin and Yang.If you have an electric lamp and wish to get light from it, that lamp must have connections that are both male and female, positive and negative. If one or the other is missing, then the lamp will not light and there will be darkness. The mythological treatment of father and mother , male and female, is speaking of the same thing.




I believe Hell is an event not a place. Revelation 20:9, NIV. "But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."

The entire earth will be cleansed by fire. II Peter 3:10, RSV. "And then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up."

Satan, the devil does exist in the bible, Revelation 12:7-9, TLB. "Then there was war in heaven; Michael and the angels under His command fought the Dragon and his hosts of fallen angels. And the Dragon lost the battle and was forced from heaven. This great Dragon--the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world--was thrown down onto the earth with all his army."


In your real life, Do you see devil with tail and two horns?! No, Devil is myth. do you see Satan in your life? No, Satan is myth. Do you see Dragon fly around the sky? No, Dragon is myth. oh please, i dont buy that. i rather to use "evil" or "bad", not devil or satan. that is totally tale fairy like santa claus or rabbits from easter. use your common sense. im tryin to be realist. that is not sin to question, its sin to afraid of it.

HELL

Religion has taught us that Hell is a place of eternal punishment. Once in Hell there is no escape. Of course this superstition was invented by religion for one purpose and one purpose only, to subject its followers to fear and create a dependency that will insure it's continued existence.

The very Bible that religion claims is without error is very clear that Hell is a state of consciousness and it is possible to leave Hell via meditation. In other words, the Bible itself indicts religion as a lie.

Here is the scripture ,Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.



Don't even get me started on psychics.
What does God say about mediumship? Leviticus 19:31 NIV. "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them."

Mediumship was common among the pagan peoples of the Bible lands. God warned the Children of Israel about it just prior to their entry into the Promised Land of Canaan. Deuteronomy 18:9-12 NIV. "When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord."

People seek counsel from psychic mediums. What is the real source of the messages uttered by these spiritists? An event in the life of the Apostle Paul throws light upon their identity. Acts 16:16-18 NIV. "Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune telling. This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, 'These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved. ' She kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so troubled that he turned around and said to the spirit, 'In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!' At that moment the spirit left her."


I doubt very much that the religious community would even consider the word psychic, period! They would see this as a plague. It is a result of the soul’s previous past life work with the unknown and its relentless search for the truth about itself and its realization as a God. Thus it became both a gift from God and a natural talent. There are many levels of psychic abilities. Again, those who inherited an extreme sensitivity (good aspects) to Uranus (the future) or Pluto (death) can be classified as a real medium. A serious study in that appointed sphere is needed, to detect those who could be used by the police for detective work. It’s a God given gift, and like painting, singing or writing, one must earn it.
 
DreamSlayer said:
I'm not able to access those sites regarding Novus spiritus right now. I'm at work (which is a highschool, and many sites are blocked).

So, I have some more questions.

Again, just curious; about the study groups. You study what? Books? This philosophy of the after life was 'introduced' by who, and when? By Sylvia in 1986?

And I am a little confused that the Bible is used to support some parts, and not others.

I am also confused how the 'after life' would be complete happiness and joy, and yet millions of individuals choose to come back and dwell on this rock, not only that, but they choose to do this several times. It doesn't make sense to me that the 'after life' could be perfect/complete if your spirit is not content.

But, I will read the info on the site when I get home later today.

I highly suggest you read those slyia's book about Novus spiritus and other books will explain about 'after life' because it's very good explainment than i do. i read it and i understand cleary myself.
In my hometown, they have Novus spiritus church and i attend once monthly and its worthly!
 
So, it appears that more and more people are asking the same question that asked nearly 4,000 years ago in the Bible: "If a man dies, will he live again?" What could be a more fundamental question of life (and death)? Reincarnation theories are popular in Eastern religions as well as the many New Age variants. It seems people are comfortable with the idea of another chance to return to earth and figure things out or make things right. Some nihilist thinkers believe that death is the absolute end; but contrary to what many might think, most people believe that death is not the end. In some shape or form we go on.....

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:16).


Life After Death: Proof?
Is there mathematical proof for life after death? No. But if you believe the life-changing evidence for God, Jesus and the Bible, then heaven is as much a concrete reality for you as the Lord in whom you’ve invested your absolute trust. It’s not fantasy – it’s the absolute life-changing hope that strengthens us and gives us peace.
 
Cheri said:
So, it appears that more and more people are asking the same question that asked nearly 4,000 years ago in the Bible: "If a man dies, will he live again?" What could be a more fundamental question of life (and death)? Reincarnation theories are popular in Eastern religions as well as the many New Age variants. It seems people are comfortable with the idea of another chance to return to earth and figure things out or make things right. Some nihilist thinkers believe that death is the absolute end; but contrary to what many might think, most people believe that death is not the end. In some shape or form we go on.....

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:16).


Life After Death: Proof?
Is there mathematical proof for life after death? No. But if you believe the life-changing evidence for God, Jesus and the Bible, then heaven is as much a concrete reality for you as the Lord in whom you’ve invested your absolute trust. It’s not fantasy – it’s the absolute life-changing hope that strengthens us and gives us peace.
That makes sense. What if eternal life meant reincarnation?
 
Hard to explain... sometimes I think after you die, your time just stops while others' time goes on.
 
Cheri said:
So, it appears that more and more people are asking the same question that asked nearly 4,000 years ago in the Bible: "If a man dies, will he live again?" What could be a more fundamental question of life (and death)? Reincarnation theories are popular in Eastern religions as well as the many New Age variants. It seems people are comfortable with the idea of another chance to return to earth and figure things out or make things right. Some nihilist thinkers believe that death is the absolute end; but contrary to what many might think, most people believe that death is not the end. In some shape or form we go on.....

For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:16).


Life After Death: Proof?
Is there mathematical proof for life after death? No. But if you believe the life-changing evidence for God, Jesus and the Bible, then heaven is as much a concrete reality for you as the Lord in whom you’ve invested your absolute trust. It’s not fantasy – it’s the absolute life-changing hope that strengthens us and gives us peace.

LIFE AFTER DEATH !

I have suggested that light which is Photon and is human consciousness, leaves the body via the Pineal gland at the time of death. Well here is the first proof that life exists after death. Photon is energy from an Atom. Scientists destroyed, killed, a photon and it reappeared three feet away.
If you haven't seen it, here is the Associated Press release dated December 11 1997. It was in all of the major newspapers and has been on tv and radio news programs. In an Austrian laboratory scientists destroyed bits of light in one place and made perfect replicas appear about 3 feet away. This supports the concept that when your dwelling place is destroyed by death, your perfect replica appears outside of your body and leaves via the light receptor which is the Pineal Gland. According to the article this was done by transferring information about a crucial physical characteristic of the original light bits called Photons. (Remember Photons which are visible light waves appear when the Atom has been stimulated by heat. You throw a switch, electricity heats the filament , Atoms get excited and you have Photon.
They consistently communicate an essential spiritual message: "Life and love are eternal."
 
There's a "Law" of opposites? I'm confused how something based on human perception could create such a law. I have a feeling this doesn't pertain to Physics in anyway.
The opposite of Light? Dark? Dark isn't the opposite, it's the absence of light.
The opposite of hot? Cold? once again, the absence of heat is cold.
Positive and negative? Like protrons and electrons? what about the neutron?

The Devil isn't the opposite of the Christian God. God created the devil as an angel of light. The devil is in no way the equal opposite.

If there was no difference between Myself and God, then I would be your creator, and you would be mine, and we created God, but he created us, This falls under a different law, the Law of non contradiction.

there is no reason to assume that I have attributes of God, because I was made in "its" image. This could simply mean I am a spiritual being, just as God is a spiritual being.

Proverbs 15:24 (NASB)The path of life leads upward for the wise, That he may keep away from Sheol below.

Not that you can just leave Sheol. When does the Bible use the word "Wise"? in reference to "fear of the Lord". So fear of the Lord (for the Jews) was to keep them out of Sheol.

Jesus lived and died, Historical fact, not only recorded in Bible, but in other historical doccuments.
 
What is the difference between two images? None, you are God and your future is nothing else than the reincarnation of your thoughts. You were born with God’s spark in your soul and you are the sole creator of your destiny.
Fear-God is not loveable. i believe is God is blameless cuz God is love.

In KJV Bible, Isaiah 55:8-9 it says, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts".

It proves that we are not Gods. Once we accept Jesus as our Saviour, we are called, the "children" of God.


Again, Jesus is myth, its invented later in bible. But honestly, all of this is mythology. It has absolutely nothing to do with men and women, mothers or fathers. It has to do with balance. Mythology is a coded language speaking of the relationship of astronomy (the universe) and anatomy (you). It is the balance of Positive and Negative, Male and Female, Yin and Yang.If you have an electric lamp and wish to get light from it, that lamp must have connections that are both male and female, positive and negative. If one or the other is missing, then the lamp will not light and there will be darkness. The mythological treatment of father and mother , male and female, is speaking of the same thing.

Jesus is myth, its invented later in Bible ? *Chuckles* In the scriptures, John 1:1-3 it says, "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God. The same was in the beginning with God.All things were made by Him(Jesus):and without Him (Jesus) was not any thing made that was made".
That scriptures are in the New Testament. Ok, now let's go back to the Old Testament ...
Read it very carefully - In KJV Bible, Genesis 1:1 it says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and earth".
Now, you can see the word "in the beginning" in the both of Old and New Testament... just right there as a crystal water. Jesus is really God.

Let's look at another verse here in the New Testament -In KJV Bible, John 1:14 it says, "And the Word (Jesus) was made flesh, and dwelt among us"....
By how? Ok, let's look at John 1:11 it says, "He (Jesus) came unto His own, and his own received Him not".
It means that He came down from the Heaven to be born in the flesh just like you and me and others. He was God and came down on this earth to be born in the flesh as "Jesus" (Jesus means "Emmanuel" which bein' interpreted is "God is with us")... to die on the Cross for our sins.

It is not hard to understand those scriptures.


In your real life, Do you see devil with tail and two horns?! No, Devil is myth. do you see Satan in your life? No, Satan is myth. Do you see Dragon fly around the sky? No, Dragon is myth. oh please, i dont buy that. i rather to use "evil" or "bad", not devil or satan. that is totally tale fairy like santa claus or rabbits from easter. use your common sense. im tryin to be realist. that is not sin to question, its sin to afraid of it.

And, again...you stated that the Devil/Satan is myth ? In KJV Bible - Isaiah 14:12-14 it says, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (Satan), son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High". Lucifer said "I will" 5 times before God kicked Lucifer out of Heaven. Lucifer's name, then changed to "Satan" or the "Dragon"...

Here is the scripture ,Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Do you understand what this scripture means ? It means when a person accepts Jesus Christ as a Saviour, this person may depart from Hell beneath.
Remma that Jesus is the Way and the Life....

And, now at the final scriptures here... In KJV Bible, Revelation 20:11-12 & 15 it says, "And I (John) saw a great white throne (Judgment), and Him (God) that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away;and there was found no place for them (heaven and earth). And I (John) saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life:and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." Verse 15: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Ok, now from what my experience from the past is that I am very much aware about God's "double-edged" Sword when it comes to the Judgment. His "double-edged" Sword is comin' out of His Mouth in Word and it can split a single soul in half right straight through the heart ! There's 2 separated Judgments. One is for non-believers and one is for believers.
 
LUNZ said:
LIFE AFTER DEATH !

I have suggested that light which is Photon and is human consciousness, leaves the body via the Pineal gland at the time of death. Well here is the first proof that life exists after death. Photon is energy from an Atom. Scientists destroyed, killed, a photon and it reappeared three feet away.
If you haven't seen it, here is the Associated Press release dated December 11 1997. It was in all of the major newspapers and has been on tv and radio news programs. In an Austrian laboratory scientists destroyed bits of light in one place and made perfect replicas appear about 3 feet away. This supports the concept that when your dwelling place is destroyed by death, your perfect replica appears outside of your body and leaves via the light receptor which is the Pineal Gland. According to the article this was done by transferring information about a crucial physical characteristic of the original light bits called Photons. (Remember Photons which are visible light waves appear when the Atom has been stimulated by heat. You throw a switch, electricity heats the filament , Atoms get excited and you have Photon.
They consistently communicate an essential spiritual message: "Life and love are eternal."

Where do we go when we die? Into a hole in the ground? Into yet another life through reincarnation? Through a tunnel towards a light? Most people in a Christian country would answer, "The good people go to Heaven and the bad people go to Hell." So many different answers can't all be right, but they all may be wrong.

Whose advice would you trust if you had to travel to a distant place: someone who had thought about going there, or someone who had gone there and returned? Obviously, someone who has experienced death knows much more about it than all of the people who have speculated about death. Even near death experiences can't tell the whole story of what happens after death. The only dependable answer comes from the one person who died, and on the third day, rose from the dead to live forever. Jesus, who conquered death, is clearly the most reliable authority on what happens after death.

Jesus' clearest teaching on what happens to us after we die came when he himself was about to die on the cross. He told the dying thief on the cross next to him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43).1 The same Greek word for paradise is used in the Septuigint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament, to refer to a garden, park, or forest. It often refers to the Garden of Eden, (Genesis 2 and 3) and to the garden of God as it will be, (Ezekiel and Isaiah).2 Paul used "caught up to paradise" in parallel with "caught up to the third heaven",3 which is the place where God dwells. (2 Corinthians 12:2-4). Jesus expanded his promise of paradise in his Revelation to the Apostle John, "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." (Revelation 2:7)

Jesus also promised his disciples that they would be with him after death. He said, "In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am." (John 14:2-3).

These passages clearly teach that believer's souls go to be with Jesus when they die. Only their bodies sleep in the grave. When Jesus returns to the earth, he will bring their souls back with him and gather up the believers who are still alive. At that time, both the dead in Christ and the living will receive their resurrection bodies.
 
Entanglement? Scientists did this at the University of Geneeva. They managed to destroy a photon, but it didn't just "Appear" in another place.

"The researchers entangled a pair of infrared photons and sent one to the second lab, then teleported a third photon by bringing it into contact with the entangled photon in the first lab. The third photon was destroyed and the entangled photon in the second lab became a replica of the third photon."

http://www.trnmag.com/Stories/2003/021203/Teleportation_goes_the_distance_021203.html

Meaning, Photon A and B where entangled, seperated a great distance. Photon C was introduced to photon A, was destroyed, and photon B became photon C.

Interesting that the soul would escape through the epiphysis (the pineal) or 'Third Eye'
While at the same time the pineal helps regulate sex hormones, melatonin and serotonin. But I guess it makes sense, Descartes believed the Penial was the "seat of the soul"
 
God?

I gotta admit, I do believe in an Almighty God...She is my Higher Power...the goddess that keeps me sane and alive all these years...She's the best!

Smiles!

DD
 
*Chuckles*
It does not matter if people do not believe in God.
One woman came in one day and said, "I do not believe in God." I said, "That's okay, He believes in you." i dont believe that GOd would say "it's up to you to believe or not. God believe in you, anway.
thus jesus do.(other examples)


Jesus is myth, its invented later in Bible ? *Chuckles* In the scriptures, John 1:1-3 it says, "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God. The same was in the beginning with God.All things were made by Him(Jesus):and without Him (Jesus) was not any thing made that was made".
That scriptures are in the New Testament. Ok, now let's go back to the Old Testament ...
Read it very carefully - In KJV Bible, Genesis 1:1 it says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and earth".
Now, you can see the word "in the beginning" in the both of Old and New Testament... just right there as a crystal water. Jesus is really God.

Let's look at another verse here in the New Testament -In KJV Bible, John 1:14 it says, "And the Word (Jesus) was made flesh, and dwelt among us"....
By how? Ok, let's look at John 1:11 it says, "He (Jesus) came unto His own, and his own received Him not".
It means that He came down from the Heaven to be born in the flesh just like you and me and others. He was God and came down on this earth to be born in the flesh as "Jesus" (Jesus means "Emmanuel" which bein' interpreted is "God is with us")... to die on the Cross for our sins.

It is not hard to understand those scriptures.
*Chuckles*read this....
i know its not hard to understand but alot of cover up in the bible. Its hidden meanings. Never consider the Book of Genesis again without realizing it to be the Book of Genes and the serpent talking to Eve actually being the Genetic serpent talking to you. Jacobs ladder being the same ,and what else could we find in Genesis that reveals itself as not only Genesis but Genetic as well.
We hear so much about the Word of God. Yet we pick up Bibles that are subject to change by whoever wishes to change the word. We cannot understand the true nature of the word.
The Greek word for WORD is LOGOS
Logos is defined thusly :
Lo·gos 1. Philosophy. a. In pre-Socratic philosophy, the principle governing the cosmos, the source of this principle, or human reasoning about the cosmos.
Consider that. The principle governing the Cosmos. That is Logos. That is the word of God. Not pages in a book. That is why it is so significant when Ian Marshall and Danah Zohr talking of DNA say,

"DNA contains reading instructions and active punctuation marks that indicate where a particular message begins and ends. The molecule also makes use of error checking strategies that ensure for example that the cell does not begin to read DNA in the middle of a sentence or skip part of an instruction." So now together with everything else that we are beginning to understand about the messenger, we understand the true nature of the Word of God. It isn’t the Bible. It is DNA.



And, again...you stated that the Devil/Satan is myth ? In KJV Bible - Isaiah 14:12-14 it says, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (Satan), son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, Lucifer said "I will" 5 times before God kicked Lucifer out of Heaven. Lucifer's name, then changed to "Satan" or the "Dragon"...


1) Just about everybody knows the word "Lucifer" as another name for Satan. The word "Lucifer" is found one time in the King James Bible.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(2) But what about the NIV? The word "Lucifer" is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the "morning star". Lucifer is the "morning star" in the NIV.

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

(3) So we know that in the NIV the "morning star" is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the "morning star" anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the "morning star" as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 "morning star". Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.

NIV: Revelation 22:16,
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

NIV: 2 Peter 1:19,
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

NIV: Revelation 2:28--
I will also give him the morning star.
NIV Reader, can you say to the "lord" OUT LOUD,

"Oh, lord, Thank you for giving me the NIV.
It is proper to call Jesus a fallen creature.
Jesus and Lucifer are the same.
Thank you, father."

If you can, the lord and father
you are praying to is--SATAN.

If you cannot say this, you need to
UTTERLY DESTROY
your perverted "bible". Don't even use it to "help" you.
Get a King James Bible so you can have the true word of God.
This is very serious.

Do you understand what this scripture means ? It means when a person accepts Jesus Christ as a Saviour, this person may depart from Hell beneath.
Remma that Jesus is the Way and the Life....

And, now at the final scriptures here... In KJV Bible, Revelation 20:11-12 & 15 it says, "And I (John) saw a great white throne (Judgment), and Him (God) that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled awaywritten in the books, according to their works." Verse 15: "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."2 separated Judgments. One is for non-believers and one is for believers.

*Chuckles*
The Bible starts with the Creation event. God created the Heavens and the Earth. God placed the stars, moon, the sun, etc. in Heaven. There is strong anecdotal evidence that the word "Heaven" is talking about the sky, that's all, not some extra-wordly Kingdom far away from our planet. Every place the word "Heaven" appears in the Bible can be replaced with the word "sky" and it fits perfectly. In Genesis 1:6-8 we read about Heaven separating the higher waters from the lower waters. Which makes perfect sense considering the concept of the Firmament. In ancient times, the Firmament was believed to be a solid dome which held the "upper waters". God would, at discretion, open the flood gates which released water down to rain on Earth. These were commonly called the Gates of Heaven.
Gen 1:14-17,
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06079b.htm

But wait!! Heaven kind of evolves throughout the Bible. In Dt. 26:15 it says that Heaven is God's dwelling place. God lives in the sky? Apparently so, in Genesis 11:4-6, we have a group of people that believed they could build a tower to Heaven. We all know the famous story of the Tower of Babel . Apparently, God "came down" to see the Tower and decided to destroy the tower for fear that man may actually accomplish this task, saying "…now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." In other words, whatever humans put to mind, they can accomplish. At this time, humans were building a tower to Heaven… it must have been a plausible task. The idea that God had to come down from Heaven to see what was going on… and had to stop them for fear that they would reach Heaven, lends credence to the idea that Heaven is really a physical place in the sky. Luckily, no planes have crashed into the Pearly Gates yet.
In the Old Testament, Elijah and a few others were actually taken up to Heaven (the sky) to be with God. In Elijah's case, he was taken up in a whirl-wind (tornado). We all know that tornadoes do indeed take things, up into the sky! Birds are frequently mentioned as being of Heaven, god sends thunder from Heaven, the sun is in heaven, heaven can be made to not rain, an angel clothed in a cloud, lightning and thunder in heaven and finally, an angel of the Lord flies through the midst of Heaven yelling down to the inhabitants of Earth. There are hundreds more examples all throughout the old and new testament. Even Jesus supposedly rose to Heaven. If Heaven isn't "up there" as many Christians believe. How could Jesus ascend up to it?

Rev 19:17-21,1Sa 2:10,Gen 1:17,2Ch 6:26,Rev 10:1,Rev 11:19,and Rev 8:13
 
Only simple what we need to believe in god. God give you:

• Love
• Faith
• Forgiven
 
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