Do you believe in God?

[Cheri]

It? Do you call God "It" ? He is not a thing. He is Supreme Being. He is the Light. He is the Bread of Life. He is Love. So, what do you mean that He is called "It" ? "It" is a thing that don't have life meanin' a breathin' of Life. If, you call God "It", then, we are not in God's image. How do you explain the word "it" that God should be called ? I don't find in the bible that God is called "It", except the word "He".

I Agree with you.

 

[LUNZ]

It? Do you call God "It" ? He is not a thing. He is Supreme Being. He is the Light. He is the Bread of Life. He is Love. So, what do you mean that He is called "It" ? "It" is a thing that don't have life meanin' a breathin' of Life. If, you call God "It", then, we are not in God's image. How do you explain the word "it" that God should be called ? I don't find in the bible that God is called "It", except the word "He".

i know it doesnt mean anything, but Speaking of Enegry, we do, run, talk, thinkin and whatever we do is active. Sun is light as energy that give the planet to grow. we active all day. sun gives us some fire(enegry) than cold weather so we stay home like depression. you know what im saying anyway


the word "he"?? where is woman? im tired of heard the man always head of family. where is our equal? Does it startle you even to think of a Female God? It should, because our society has been misled (for about 2000 years) and taught that God is only male. How ridiculous! Why would a single, male god make everything in creation as a paired male/female? It is much more sensible that God's creation mirrors Their own image, both male and female.

Does the Bible offer any support for a female counterpart to God? Yes indeed! In fact, a very interesting statement was left in the Bible (Genesis 1:26, The New Jerusalem Bible, 1985) which supports a dualistic nature for God, namely:

"Let us make man in our own image,
in the likeness of ourselves ...."

that the above quote uses a plural reference to God. Naturally one wants to know about these other gods. Could it have been a mistake in the Bible? (Even this has not been proposed by the established church.) Or is this a reference to the doctrine of a "triune" God, i.e., the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No, it cannot be the Trinity either, for that was developed in the New Testament many thousands of years later!

my opinion the Father God, the Mother God. We believe that the Gods are paired male/female just like all of creation, and just like the Bible tells us in Genesis. we are equal. God is love.

I think that the Mother God is a vital and active force in the daily affairs of our world. In fact, mother God is the one to petition when you need Divine intervention to resolve problems. Where the Father God maintains a constant loving force, the Mother God will actively take an interest in helping you and can change things around to make life better.

Anytime we use the word "God," please understand that we imply both the Male and Female Gods. For together They made our world and are the loving Parents of humanity.

 

[Maria]

the word "he"?? where is woman? im tired of heard the man always head of family. where is our equal? Does it startle you even to think of a Female God? It should, because our society has been misled (for about 2000 years) and taught that God is only male. How ridiculous! Why would a single, male god make everything in creation as a paired male/female? It is much more sensible that God's creation mirrors Their own image, both male and female.

In fact, there's no woman. Yes, I totally understand what you mean about "tired of heard the man always head of family". Well, remma that God gave female/male a free will that the both of female/male wants to agree on something that they would like to do or what they wants to be for each other. That's their choices upon agreement or not...or have their own way separately. It's why God gave people to make up their minds what they would like to do with their lives, especially with women. There is some verses in the bible that stated about a "woman" is like a vase...easy fragile or break. God is Love. He understands Love beyond than our words that our minds do not understand the depth of God's Love, because Love is very strong. No one can compare Love to the deep of the ocean. Love is more than the deep ocean or the whole universe. He knows that our minds are very limited. And, of course, He knows our weakness. Often times, you may notice that most women tends to worry about their own husbands, spouses, or lovers to see, if they really loves wives, girlfriends, or spouses. God knows the deep of a "woman's" heart. He knows. There's no need for God to have a "Woman" besides Him. Supposedly, if you want a color to paint with only one black on the paperboard... what do you see ? It's plain flat with only one color. Wouldn't you like to add something to it to make it beautiful in your own image? Of course, I bet you would and take many colours you want to paint that goes with just one black. God is very Wise and He knows the difference to please female and male upon this earth. He knows what pleases in the eyes of man's... same with a woman as well.

Does the Bible offer any support for a female counterpart to God? Yes indeed! In fact, a very interesting statement was left in the Bible (Genesis 1:26, The New Jerusalem Bible, 1985) which supports a dualistic nature for God, namely:

"Let us make man in our own image,
in the likeness of ourselves ...."

Yep, just like what female and male are. We have the kind of face features, hair (our heads), hands, legs, fingers, etc., etc. just like Himself/Jesus. He don't create us monsters like an "ugly" images, because God is not. *Chuckles*

that the above quote uses a plural reference to God. Naturally one wants to know about these other gods. Could it have been a mistake in the Bible? (Even this has not been proposed by the established church.) Or is this a reference to the doctrine of a "triune" God, i.e., the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No, it cannot be the Trinity either, for that was developed in the New Testament many thousands of years later!

Trinity is our Teacher (Holy Spirit) to help teachin' us to get to know God personally by readin' the scriptures through God's Light. It's our eyes that brings forth in His Light to grasp the meanin' of Life. Without the Holy Spirit (Trinity), we will not be able to understand God, if not at all. This will bring us to remain "babies" without growin'. God don't want that. He wants us to grow.

I think that the Mother God is a vital and active force in the daily affairs of our world. In fact, mother God is the one to petition when you need Divine intervention to resolve problems. Where the Father God maintains a constant loving force, the Mother God will actively take an interest in helping you and can change things around to make life better.

And, again... there's no Mother God. He is the WHOLE conception and perception in the eyes of God Himself. He sees it ALL and knows all the answers. We pray if, there's a problem that intervene in our lives through the faith. Without faith, we will always have problems. The most important of all is be "Patience". Patience is a virtue just like Jesus Himself when He went through the difficult trials until the day He roses up to the Heaven. He won!
He made it through without guilt. There's no single fault in Jesus and that made Him Perfect King, Perfect Lord, Perfect Savior, Perfect "everything". No wonder Satan fumes! Hahaha ...

Thanks for sharin' your opinion! *Winks*

 

[crackerjackjez]

In fact, there's no woman. Yes, I totally understand what you mean about "tired of heard the man always head of family". Well, remma that God gave female/male a free will that the both of female/male wants to agree on something that they would like to do or what they wants to be for each other. That's their choices upon agreement or not...or have their own way separately. It's why God gave people to make up their minds what they would like to do with their lives, especially with women. There is some verses in the bible that stated about a "woman" is like a vase...easy fragile or break. God is Love. He understands Love beyond than our words that our minds do not understand the depth of God's Love, because Love is very strong. No one can compare Love to the deep of the ocean. Love is more than the deep ocean or the whole universe. He knows that our minds are very limited. And, of course, He knows our weakness. Often times, you may notice that most women tends to worry about their own husbands, spouses, or lovers to see, if they really loves wives, girlfriends, or spouses. God knows the deep of a "woman's" heart. He knows. There's no need for God to have a "Woman" besides Him. Supposedly, if you want a color to paint with only one black on the paperboard... what do you see ? It's plain flat with only one color. Wouldn't you like to add something to it to make it beautiful in your own image? Of course, I bet you would and take many colours you want to paint that goes with just one black. God is very Wise and He knows the difference to please female and male upon this earth. He knows what pleases in the eyes of man's... same with a woman as well.



Yep, just like what female and male are. We have the kind of face features, hair (our heads), hands, legs, fingers, etc., etc. just like Himself/Jesus. He don't create us monsters like an "ugly" images, because God is not. *Chuckles*



Trinity is our Teacher (Holy Spirit) to help teachin' us to get to know God personally by readin' the scriptures through God's Light. It's our eyes that brings forth in His Light to grasp the meanin' of Life. Without the Holy Spirit (Trinity), we will not be able to understand God, if not at all. This will bring us to remain "babies" without growin'. God don't want that. He wants us to grow.



And, again... there's no Mother God. He is the WHOLE conception and perception in the eyes of God Himself. He sees it ALL and knows all the answers. We pray if, there's a problem that intervene in our lives through the faith. Without faith, we will always have problems. The most important of all is be "Patience". Patience is a virtue just like Jesus Himself when He went through the difficult trials until the day He roses up to the Heaven. He won!
He made it through without guilt. There's no single fault in Jesus and that made Him Perfect King, Perfect Lord, Perfect Savior, Perfect "everything". No wonder Satan fumes! Hahaha ...

Thanks for sharin' your opinion! *Winks*

WOW:') Good Job explaining

 

[tekkmortal]

Our Father who art in Heaven
Hallowed by thy ...

Damn I forgot the rest of the words...

 

[LUNZ]

In fact, there's no woman. Yes, I totally understand what you mean about "tired of heard the man always head of family". Well, remma that God gave female/male a free will that the both of female/male wants to agree on something that they would like to do or what they wants to be for each other. That's their choices upon agreement or not...or have their own way separately. It's why God gave people to make up their minds what they would like to do with their lives, especially with women. There is some verses in the bible that stated about a "woman" is like a vase...easy fragile or break. God is Love. He understands Love beyond than our words that our minds do not understand the depth of God's Love, because Love is very strong. No one can compare Love to the deep of the ocean. Love is more than the deep ocean or the whole universe. He knows that our minds are very limited. And, of course, He knows our weakness. Often times, you may notice that most women tends to worry about their own husbands, spouses, or lovers to see, if they really loves wives, girlfriends, or spouses. God knows the deep of a "woman's" heart. He knows. There's no need for God to have a "Woman" besides Him. Supposedly, if you want a color to paint with only one black on the paperboard... what do you see ? It's plain flat with only one color. Wouldn't you like to add something to it to make it beautiful in your own image? Of course, I bet you would and take many colours you want to paint that goes with just one black. God is very Wise and He knows the difference to please female and male upon this earth. He knows what pleases in the eyes of man's... same with a woman as well.

Now let us look at the very strange statement that has not only degraded women but also paved the way for religious sexual abuse of boys.

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:1

1. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Probably the most degrading Biblical statement is connected with marriage. Not for love, not for happiness, not for togetherness. But right after the Bible says it is good for a man not to touch a woman, it prescribes marriage, for one thing and for one thing only

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:2

2. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

9. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

What is this guy saying ?

To paraphrase

To those who are single I say don’t get married, be like me. But if you cant contain your sexual urges get married because its better to do that then to burn.

The only reason this guy sees for marriage is sex. Nothing else. And that is the Christian approach right out of the Bible of the reason men and women should marry.

THERE GOES OUR FAMILY

And so the family, the home, the mother, is destroyed by what. The same thing that has destroyed the peace of the world. Religion.

And governments founded on religious principles such as this one continue the same thing. That is why women were not allowed to vote until about 75 years ago. That is why you have never seen a woman president. That is why women get paid less then men for the same job.

We have mothers day in the same way that you would throw a dog a scrap from the table. We have mothers day to keep them quiet. But we have by our very acceptance of these male dominated cults, been party to the destruction of the mother influence upon the earth, resulting in the aggressive male influence that has been so instrumental in the wars fought many times in the name of God.

Sadly again, KJV 1 Timothy 2:11-15

11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

In the Bible Jesus is given words that reduce the stature of mother.

KJV John 2:3-4 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

 

[Ginette]

Here are some of the names for God, that I know.

Jehovah; An Old Testament term meaning "I am that I am."
Elohim; An Old Testament term meaning "Strong One."
Adonai; An Old Testament term meaing "Lord"
God; A New Testament term, theos, meaning "The one true God."
Lord; A New Testament term, kurios, meaning "Sir"
Father; A New Testament term.

God is a Spirit, yet God is also a Person, with personal traits and abilities.

 

[gnarlydorkette]

Our Father who art in Heaven
Hallowed by thy ...

Damn I forgot the rest of the words...

hm, sadly i think I know the rest...
"Hallowed by Thy Name.... thy kingdom come... something something bread... something something trespass against us, something then Amen."

Never mind, I don't know that one.

I grew up reciting Finnish prayer when it was my bedtime so I have NO idea of the American's verison of prayers. I cannot remember the finnish prayer anymore, altho. My mother and her family raisied as Lutherans in Finland... but they don't practice Lutheranism! Their last Lutheranism commitment was their communion at age 15 and they were free from the church for life.
When my mother moved to America, she didn't go to a church or whatnot. She didn't feel that the religion or beliefs were same in another country even though it is the _same_ religion. Certainly the traditions are DIFFERENT in Finland and America. I like Finnish traditions because it is more humble and reasonable. :-D
(getting all Scandinavian pride in her blood)


***Is getting SIDE-TRACKED but nevertheless still on the topic of religions****

I read something in my art history class and I am not sure if it is stil the same in the modern day but the south parts of Europe- Spain, Italy, etc are very strong Catholic meanwhile the north such as Denmark, Germany and the Scandinavia are Protestant (or offsprings such as Lutheran, Persybitah, blahblah)... and I thought, "it sounds as if it is the same today" because Rome in Italy is still the mecca for the Catholics and there is no religion meccas in the North... Different cultures. (ooo a good topic for my anthropology class! WHEE!)

Any feedbacks about that one? Feel free to elaborate your opinion!

 

[gnarlydorkette]

We have mothers day in the same way that you would throw a dog a scrap from the table. We have mothers day to keep them quiet. But we have by our very acceptance of these male dominated cults, been party to the destruction of the mother influence upon the earth, resulting in the aggressive male influence that has been so instrumental in the wars fought many times in the name of God.

If that is true for the origins for Mothers Day then I wouldn't encourage my kids to celebrate it because everyday should be a MOthers Day/Fathers Day . [rolling her eye] that is why I just CANNOT accept the church because I am too much a radical and feminist for them to suppress. (thinking about not celebrating holidays because of its background/history/meaning) I just plainly can't understand those chauvinistic pious folks!

 

[Maria]

Now let us look at the very strange statement that has not only degraded women but also paved the way for religious sexual abuse of boys.

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:1

1. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Probably the most degrading Biblical statement is connected with marriage. Not for love, not for happiness, not for togetherness. But right after the Bible says it is good for a man not to touch a woman, it prescribes marriage, for one thing and for one thing only

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:2

2. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

9. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

What is this guy saying ?

To paraphrase

To those who are single I say don’t get married, be like me. But if you cant contain your sexual urges get married because its better to do that then to burn.

The only reason this guy sees for marriage is sex. Nothing else. And that is the Christian approach right out of the Bible of the reason men and women should marry.

THERE GOES OUR FAMILY

And so the family, the home, the mother, is destroyed by what. The same thing that has destroyed the peace of the world. Religion.

And governments founded on religious principles such as this one continue the same thing. That is why women were not allowed to vote until about 75 years ago. That is why you have never seen a woman president. That is why women get paid less then men for the same job.

We have mothers day in the same way that you would throw a dog a scrap from the table. We have mothers day to keep them quiet. But we have by our very acceptance of these male dominated cults, been party to the destruction of the mother influence upon the earth, resulting in the aggressive male influence that has been so instrumental in the wars fought many times in the name of God.

Sadly again, KJV 1 Timothy 2:11-15

11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

In the Bible Jesus is given words that reduce the stature of mother.

KJV John 2:3-4 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

Exactly ! It's why there's a Judgement Day waitin' for everyone when they are preparin' to face God in Heaven when they die. He is the Judge and will open up their lives by reviewin' their life. Everyone will see their "life" before their very own eyes to show what they have done for God. God will review every individual's life from the birth until the day the person dies, to see if the person follows/obeys God what the person has been taught while upon this earth. God will weight their own deeds... good or bad. Guilty or not guilty. It's very much the same with court if, anyone breaks the law upon this earth...go to jail for life or death penalty by an earthly judge. But, once a person dies, there's no turnin' back. Judgement Day is something we should consider very seriously. To tell you the truth, I can't judge, because I am a sinner just like others includin' you.
In Heaven, God will ask each one of us : "What have you done for Me?" This will make us to THINK what WE have DONE for Him. Is there anything that we have done for Him since the Day One we were born ? What have we gone wrong that we don't obey or follow? It's why we all have the bible for many years through generation to generation and it's up to people to read it or leave it on the shelf. And, of course, there's so called "Religion" out there and there's no such a "religion". In the bible, Jesus says: "I am the Way and the Life, no one comes to the Father but through in Me". The only reason why the "Religion" is out there, because they wants to seize the power, money and fame... that's what causes the war. The "evil" force is growin' big time. Diseases are growin', too. Sins are growin' and everything that you see will never be the same. That was how things went when people don't obey. We are just like in Noah's Ark Time.

Now, speakin' of a woman. There's some verses in the bible that tells about Ruth and Esther. Those women were very devoted to God. No wonder why their names are in the book. Their husbands loves their wives very dearly and treated them well. Their husbands listened to their wives' word of wisdom. Their husbands never treated them like "today" or "modern-day" husbands treated their wives (physical abuses, verbal abuses and so forth). The parents are teachers to their children to follow their parents' examples to grow up good people or not. It's the parents' reponsibility. And, you can see what happened to the world now? The children killed their parents...children doin' drugs...children talkback to their parents, and all. Today we are livin' in this UGLY world, because of bad environments goin' on. The people tends to forget God, because of the world what the world offers and their eyes are tempted to it. It's why God sets up a Judgement Day, because of it.

 

[VamPyroX]

Angel I am so happy for you! I agree 100% God does allow us to make our own choices.

God... or no God...

We still make our own choices.

 

[Ginette]

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:1

1. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Probably the most degrading Biblical statement is connected with marriage. Not for love, not for happiness, not for togetherness. But right after the Bible says it is good for a man not to touch a woman, it prescribes marriage, for one thing and for one thing only

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:2

2. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

KJV 1 Corinthians 7:8-9

8. I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

9. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

What is this guy saying ?

To paraphrase

To those who are single I say don’t get married, be like me. But if you cant contain your sexual urges get married because its better to do that then to burn.

The only reason this guy sees for marriage is sex. Nothing else. And that is the Christian approach right out of the Bible of the reason men and women should marry.

There is more to marriage than just sex. There is respect, companionship, Love etc.

Sex is a gift God gives to married people for their mutual enjoyment.
It's in the Bible, Proverbs 5:18-19, TLB. "Let your manhood be a blessing; rejoice in the wife of your youth. Let her charms and tender embrace satisfy you. Let her love alone fill you with delight.

Keep the relationship growing in unity and understanding.
Ephesians 4:2-3, TLB. "Be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each other's faults because of your love. Try always to be led along together by the Holy Spirit, and so be at peace with one another."

To keep from hurting ourselves, sexual desires and activities must be placed under Christ's control.
I Thessalonians 4:3-5, TLB. "For God wants you to be holy and pure and to keep clear of all sexual sin so that each of you will marry in holiness and honor--not in lustful passion as the heathen do, in their ignorance of God and his ways."

A husband's primary responsibility is to love his wife.
It's in the Bible, Ephesians 5:25, TLB. "And you husbands, show the same kind of love to your wives as Christ showed to the Church when He died for her."

THERE GOES OUR FAMILY

And so the family, the home, the mother, is destroyed by what. The same thing that has destroyed the peace of the world. Religion.

We have mothers day in the same way that you would throw a dog a scrap from the table. We have mothers day to keep them quiet. But we have by our very acceptance of these male dominated cults, been party to the destruction of the mother influence upon the earth, resulting in the aggressive male influence that has been so instrumental in the wars fought many times in the name of God.

That is not the reason we have Mother's day.
Keep in mind we also have Father's day. It's simply a "Hallmark" season.
Either way, Children should be honoring their parents all the time, not just one day a year.
God cares about families.

Husbands should provide for their families. It's in the Bible, "And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever." 1 Timothy 5:8 (NRSV)

God also forbids physical or verbal spouse abuse?
Colossians 3:19, NIV. "Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them."

He wants you to have a healthy marriage, and to settle misunderstanding at once.
Ephesians 4:26, TLB. "If you are angry, don't sin by nursing your grudge. Don't let the sun go down with you still angry--get over it quickly."

Children should learn from their parents.
Proverbs 1:8, NIV. "Listen, my son, to your father's instruction and do not forsake your mother's teaching."

One of God's commandments is for children to honor and respect their parents,
Exodus 20:12, NIV. "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you."

Sadly again, KJV 1 Timothy 2:11-15

11. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

In the Bible Jesus is given words that reduce the stature of mother.

KJV John 2:3-4 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

God does not think Women are worthless. We all have responsibilities in life, regardless if you are a man, woman, or child.

What is the description of a good woman?
Proverbs 31:10-29, TLB. "If you can find a truly good wife, she is worth more than precious gems! Her husband can trust her, and she will richly satisfy his needs. . . .She is energetic, a hard worker, and watches for bargains. She works far into the night! She sews for the poor, and generously gives to the needy. . .She is a woman of strength and dignity, and has no fear of old age. When she speaks, her words are wise, and kindness is the rule for everything she says. She watches carefully all that goes on throughout her household, and is never lazy. Her children stand and bless her; so does her husband. He praises her with these words; 'There are many fine women in the world, but you are the best of them all!"


Are women expected to do all the "give and take"? No, Marriage requires submission by both partners. It's in the Bible, Ephesians 5:21, NIV. "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ."

 

[Maria]

Ginette

Word !

 

[Maria]

LUNZ

I know it's a little bit off-topic here, but I would like to give you an example about that girl. It's a true story. Let me copy and paste here for you to read.

A Sad But True Story

Jenny was so happy about the house they had found.
For once in her life 'twas on the right side of town.
She unpacked her things with such great ease.
As she watched her new curtains blow in the breeze.
How wonderful it was to have her own room.
School would be starting, she'd have friends over soon.
There'd be sleep-overs, and parties; she was so happy
It's just the way she wanted her life to be.

On the first day of school, everything went great.
She made new friends and even got a date!
She thought, "I want to be popular and i'm going to be,
Because I just got a date with the star of the team!"
To be known in this school you had to have a clout,
And dating this guy would sure help her out.

There was only one problem stopping her fate.
Her parents had said she was too young to date.
"Well I just won't tell them the entire truth.
They won't know the difference; what's there to lose?"

Jenny asked to stay with her friends that night
Her parents frowned but said, "All right"
Excited, she got ready for the big event
But as she rushed around like she had no sense,
She began to feel guilty about all the lies,
But what's a pizza, a party, and a moonlight ride?

Well the pizza was good, and the party was great,
But the moonlight ride would have to wait.
For jeff was half drunk by this time.
But he kissed her and said that he was just fine.
Then the room filled with smoke and jeff took a puff.
Jenny couln't believe he was smoking that stuff.

Now jeff was ready to ride to the point.
But only after he's smoked another joint.
They jumped in the car for the moonlight ride,
Not thinking that he was too drunk to drive
They finally made it to the point at last,
And jeff started trying to make a pass.
A pass is not what Jenny wanted at all
(and by a pass, I don't mean playing football)

"Perhaps my parents were right...maybe I am too young.
Boy, how could I ever, ever be so dumb"
With all of her might, she pushed jeff away
"Please take me home, I don't want to stay"
Jeff cranked up the engine and floored the gas.

In a matter of seconds they were going too fast
As Jeff drove on in a fit of wild anger,
Jenny knew that her life was in danger.
She begged and pleaded for him to slow down,
But he just got faster as they neared the town.

"Just let me get home! I'll confess that I lied.
I really went out for a moonlight ride"
Then all of a sudden, she saw a big flash
"Oh God, Please help us! We're ging to crash!"
She doesn't remember the force of impact
Just that everything all of a sudden went black
She felt someone remove her from the twisted rubble,
And heard, "Call an ambulance! These kids are in trouble!"

Voices she heard... a few words at best
But she knew there were two cars involved in the wreck
Then wondered to herself if Jeff was all right,
And if the people in the other car were alive

She awoke in the hospital to faces so sad
"You've been in a wreck and it looks pretty bad"
These voices echoed inside her head,
As they gently told her that Jeff was dead

They said "Jenny, we've done all we can do
But it looks as if we'll lose you too"
"But the people in the other car?" Jenny cried
"We're sorry, Jenny, they also died."

Jenny prayed "God, forgive me for what I've done
I only wanted to have just one night of fun"
"Tell those people's family, I've made their lives dim.
And wish I could return their families to them"
"Tell Mom and Dad I'm sorry I lied,
And that it's my fault so many have died.
Oh, nurse, won't you please tell them that for me?"
The nurse just stood there she never agreed
But took Jenny's hand with tears in her eyes.

And a few moments later Jenny died.
A man asked the nurse, "Why didn't you do your best
To bid that girl her one last request?"
She looked at the man with eyes so sad.
"Because the people in the other car were her mom and dad"

This story is sad and unpleasant but true
So young people take heed, it could have been you.

See, that's what happened to this world when children don't obey and their lives could cut short. It's unthinkable. It's the same way with fornication, adultery, and so on, because it could cut one thing or another in short. The word "loss" could be anything (marriage, life, happiness, and everything that are good). It's what God is tryin' to tell us, because He don't want us to suffer by consequences when a sin is catchin' up on our back.

Now, about the marriage. I believe that sex should belong to marriage, not before marriage. I don't believe in fornication. I call that word "fornication" an animal.

As its for me, it's bad to live in a big city to where there are so many problems. Right now, I live in an "exile" somewhere in Alaska. I feel so peace and there is no stress involved, so I could have more time to read the bible and pray. Adventure is my leisure time. This is my freedom!

 

[LUNZ]

Exactly ! It's why there's a Judgement Day waitin' for everyone when they are preparin' to face God in Heaven when they die. He is the Judge and will open up their lives by reviewin' their life. Everyone will see their "life" before their very own eyes to show what they have done for God. God will review every individual's life from the birth until the day the person dies, to see if the person follows/obeys God what the person has been taught while upon this earth. God will weight their own deeds... good or bad. Guilty or not guilty. It's very much the same with court if, anyone breaks the law upon this earth...go to jail for life or death penalty by an earthly judge. But, once a person dies, there's no turnin' back. Judgement Day is something we should consider very seriously. To tell you the truth, I can't judge, because I am a sinner just like others includin' you.
In Heaven, God will ask each one of us : "What have you done for Me?" This will make us to THINK what WE have DONE for Him. Is there anything that we have done for Him since the Day One we were born ? What have we gone wrong that we don't obey or follow? It's why we all have the bible for many years through generation to generation and it's up to people to read it or leave it on the shelf. And, of course, there's so called "Religion" out there and there's no such a "religion"..

i believe there aint no Judgement Day.
You may wonder, 'If life is for learning, why is it so hard at times?' Simply put, through adversity we can test the strength of our soul. The pain of life allows us to really know what it means to be a good and spiritual person.

God is all loving, never judgmental. God is dual Beings, Mother AND Father.
Life on Earth is for our learning, to overcome the old, control-oriented concepts of guilt, sin and fear. Because Mother and Father God love us, we are given many opportunities to live.

In the bible, Jesus says: "I am the Way and the Life, no one comes to the Father but through in Me". The only reason why the "Religion" is out there, because they wants to seize the power, money and fame... that's what causes the war. The "evil" force is growin' big time. Diseases are growin', too. Sins are growin' and everything that you see will never be the same. That was how things went when people don't obey. We are just like in Noah's Ark Time.

if i ask jesus something but problem is...
Luke 6:46 Why do you call me Lord and not do what I tell you to do.
Jesus has a big problem with their approach for he says.

Noah's ark?!

Let's look at the math. It amazes me that I've never seen anyone look at it this way before. As the story goes, God made it rain for 40 days and 40 nights and created a great flood that covered the entire earth. Enough to drowned everything except fish. Our tallest mountains are 27,000 feet tall, so if you're going to flood everything, that's 27,000 feet of water. For round numbers, let's just say 24,000 is enough.

If you divide 24,000 feet by 40 days, that's 600 feet of rain a day, over the entire planet. There's 24 hours in a day so that would be 25 feet of rain per hour, or 300 inches per hour. 7200 inches per day. 5 inches of rain a minute. That's one hell of a rain!

This is also hundreds of times as much water as what's in the oceans and the atmosphere. Where did all this water come from? Where did all this water go to? It's hardly going to run down the storm sewers. It can't evaporate because the air would be totally saturated once just a few feet evaporated. That much water isn't going to sink into the ground. There isn't that much ground. And there's no geological evidence that the entire planet was ever covered with water.

I haven't gone into the problems with gathering two of every species and fitting them all into a small boat. I'm not going to talk about the DNA problems of deriving species from only two individuals. Not going to talk about where dinosaur bones came from. Not going to bring up the possibility of animals, reptiles, and insects surviving on floating debris. We're just talking about the flood itself.

Of course, God can do anything. He could have created the water, made it disappear, and then covered up all geological evidence of the flood so as to fool those faithless scientists. A flood like that would have carved up the entire planet big time. But God must have erased all the erosion and recreated a landscape that looks as if it had been here for billions of years. If you believe in Noah and the Ark, then you have to believe that God concealed all evidence of the flood and intended to fool scientists.

Why would God do that? If God wanted to waste the planet he could have just struck them all dead instead of doing the flood thing. Looks like he went to a lot of trouble that he didn't need to. God works in mysterious ways, and we mortals can't comprehend the ways of God. We are to accept it on faith because the math and science sure don't add up.

 

[LUNZ]

LUNZ

I know it's a little bit off-topic here, but I would like to give you an example about that girl. It's a true story. Let me copy and paste here for you to read.

A Sad But True Story

Jenny was so happy about the house they had found.
For once in her life 'twas on the right side of town.
She unpacked her things with such great ease.
As she watched her new curtains blow in the breeze.
How wonderful it was to have her own room.
School would be starting, she'd have friends over soon.
There'd be sleep-overs, and parties; she was so happy
It's just the way she wanted her life to be.

On the first day of school, everything went great.
She made new friends and even got a date!
She thought, "I want to be popular and i'm going to be,
Because I just got a date with the star of the team!"
To be known in this school you had to have a clout,
And dating this guy would sure help her out.

There was only one problem stopping her fate.
Her parents had said she was too young to date.
"Well I just won't tell them the entire truth.
They won't know the difference; what's there to lose?"

Jenny asked to stay with her friends that night
Her parents frowned but said, "All right"
Excited, she got ready for the big event
But as she rushed around like she had no sense,
She began to feel guilty about all the lies,
But what's a pizza, a party, and a moonlight ride?

Well the pizza was good, and the party was great,
But the moonlight ride would have to wait.
For jeff was half drunk by this time.
But he kissed her and said that he was just fine.
Then the room filled with smoke and jeff took a puff.
Jenny couln't believe he was smoking that stuff.

Now jeff was ready to ride to the point.
But only after he's smoked another joint.
They jumped in the car for the moonlight ride,
Not thinking that he was too drunk to drive
They finally made it to the point at last,
And jeff started trying to make a pass.
A pass is not what Jenny wanted at all
(and by a pass, I don't mean playing football)

"Perhaps my parents were right...maybe I am too young.
Boy, how could I ever, ever be so dumb"
With all of her might, she pushed jeff away
"Please take me home, I don't want to stay"
Jeff cranked up the engine and floored the gas.

In a matter of seconds they were going too fast
As Jeff drove on in a fit of wild anger,
Jenny knew that her life was in danger.
She begged and pleaded for him to slow down,
But he just got faster as they neared the town.

"Just let me get home! I'll confess that I lied.
I really went out for a moonlight ride"
Then all of a sudden, she saw a big flash
"Oh God, Please help us! We're ging to crash!"
She doesn't remember the force of impact
Just that everything all of a sudden went black
She felt someone remove her from the twisted rubble,
And heard, "Call an ambulance! These kids are in trouble!"

Voices she heard... a few words at best
But she knew there were two cars involved in the wreck
Then wondered to herself if Jeff was all right,
And if the people in the other car were alive

She awoke in the hospital to faces so sad
"You've been in a wreck and it looks pretty bad"
These voices echoed inside her head,
As they gently told her that Jeff was dead

They said "Jenny, we've done all we can do
But it looks as if we'll lose you too"
"But the people in the other car?" Jenny cried
"We're sorry, Jenny, they also died."

Jenny prayed "God, forgive me for what I've done
I only wanted to have just one night of fun"
"Tell those people's family, I've made their lives dim.
And wish I could return their families to them"
"Tell Mom and Dad I'm sorry I lied,
And that it's my fault so many have died.
Oh, nurse, won't you please tell them that for me?"
The nurse just stood there she never agreed
But took Jenny's hand with tears in her eyes.

And a few moments later Jenny died.
A man asked the nurse, "Why didn't you do your best
To bid that girl her one last request?"
She looked at the man with eyes so sad.
"Because the people in the other car were her mom and dad"

This story is sad and unpleasant but true
So young people take heed, it could have been you.

See, that's what happened to this world when children don't obey and their lives could cut short. It's unthinkable. It's the same way with fornication, adultery, and so on, because it could cut one thing or another in short. The word "loss" could be anything (marriage, life, happiness, and everything that are good). It's what God is tryin' to tell us, because He don't want us to suffer by consequences when a sin is catchin' up on our back.

Now, about the marriage. I believe that sex should belong to marriage, not before marriage. I don't believe in fornication. I call that word "fornication" an animal.

As its for me, it's bad to live in a big city to where there are so many problems. Right now, I live in an "exile" somewhere in Alaska. I feel so peace and there is no stress involved, so I could have more time to read the bible and pray. Adventure is my leisure time. This is my freedom!

Thanks for your sharing stories. I think it's quite miracle from god.
I raised and lived in a big city and used to have so many problems if you can handle it. i like both country and city and kept the balance. you know busy or quiet area. Actually,They are pieces of cake if you used to live it. if i were in your shoes, ofc, its quite so peace and no stress in alaska. i can pray and mediation to god.

 

[DreamSlayer]

Wow, you guys write more than I do! quick reply to stuff I managed to read.

God is Spirit. Not male, not female. Called Father; because that's that attributes he exhibits, not because he is Male. The Hebrew word for God in Genesis is plural. (the word has slipped my mind...) I'm at school, so I don't have Bible. The plural does not mean there is more than one. Christians like to say it means Trinity, (and even though I am Christian) I hate when they say that. The Hebrew use of the plural in this case just emphisises God's importantance. Thats why there is a verse, "the Lord our God, is ONE God."

The Verse about getting married. He was speaking to individuals who had been married before. Widows (husbands/wives had died) and Un married (been through divorce). Un married mean never been married? nope, that's what the use of the word virgin is for. These people have experienced sex, and if their desire for sex overtakes them it is better for them to marry than to live with a burning desire to sleep with lots of people. Not that marriage is only for sex. Paul also doesn't say he doesn't want people to get married, just that it is fine if you don't.

Women Silent in the Church? Bible is historical, and cultural. The church that this letter was written to is refering to the practice of the women yelling to their husbands across the congragation, because they weren't sitting with their husbands, and couldn't hear what was being said. So they would yell out "WHAT DID HE JUST SAY?". Women had a lower status back then, culturally, so they had to deal with that kind of stuff. That has changed.

Flooded the whole world for Noahs ark. Problems with translations is ... do you take the meaning or the exact word. The word used for world in this case could be taken to mean the geographical area in which noah lived. The land. He flooded the whole land. That doesn't mean the entire world. Which would also mean Noah didn't have to take every animal in existence, just the animals in the local area.

 

[LUNZ]

Women Silent in the Church? Bible is historical, and cultural. The church that this letter was written to is refering to the practice of the women yelling to their husbands across the congragation, because they weren't sitting with their husbands, and couldn't hear what was being said. So they would yell out "WHAT DID HE JUST SAY?". Women had a lower status back then, culturally, so they had to deal with that kind of stuff. That has changed..

i dont buy that.

Flooded the whole world for Noahs ark. Problems with translations is ... do you take the meaning or the exact word. The word used for world in this case could be taken to mean the geographical area in which noah lived. The land. He flooded the whole land. That doesn't mean the entire world. Which would also mean Noah didn't have to take every animal in existence, just the animals in the local area.

use your common sense. if you think with translations is big problem then who is tellin truth?

In Matthew 15:14 it says that religious leaders are blind leaders of the blind. In other words they cannot see and they are showing the way to others who cannot see and they both wind up in a ditch.

you make up your mind and your own truth.

 

[Maria]

Thanks for your sharing stories. I think it's quite miracle from god.
I raised and lived in a big city and used to have so many problems if you can handle it. i like both country and city and kept the balance. you know busy or quiet area. Actually,They are pieces of cake if you used to live it. if i were in your shoes, ofc, its quite so peace and no stress in alaska. i can pray and mediation to god.

Yep, it is a quite miracle from God when God brought this to share our knowledge, experience and education. This is what we, the people are here for. I love God/Jesus very much. God/Jesus is very special to me than anyone in this whole world, because God/Jesus is so perfect. And, of course, we the people have to walk through many good and bad trials to learn ourselves, so this way we, the people could understand one day when we are in Heaven. The question is why is it so hard to understand when the "religion" out there brought up their different doctrines ? Of course, it's only God who understands what is in "religion" men's hearts and the "evil" force attempted to confuse the "good" people's minds. I will not tolerate the "confusion". By readin' the bible helps us to stay in ONE mind, the likeness of Christ's mind. Once we do this, this will bring us, the people our lives to live a better life with much more happiness and God shall bring "peace" in us for this.

By the way, care to tell me what state you live ? lol ! (I love all kinds of people, too!) *Winks*

 

[Maria]

Wow, you guys write more than I do! quick reply to stuff I managed to read.

God is Spirit. Not male, not female. Called Father; because that's that attributes he exhibits, not because he is Male. The Hebrew word for God in Genesis is plural. (the word has slipped my mind...) I'm at school, so I don't have Bible. The plural does not mean there is more than one. Christians like to say it means Trinity, (and even though I am Christian) I hate when they say that. The Hebrew use of the plural in this case just emphisises God's importantance. Thats why there is a verse, "the Lord our God, is ONE God."

The Verse about getting married. He was speaking to individuals who had been married before. Widows (husbands/wives had died) and Un married (been through divorce). Un married mean never been married? nope, that's what the use of the word virgin is for. These people have experienced sex, and if their desire for sex overtakes them it is better for them to marry than to live with a burning desire to sleep with lots of people. Not that marriage is only for sex. Paul also doesn't say he doesn't want people to get married, just that it is fine if you don't.

Women Silent in the Church? Bible is historical, and cultural. The church that this letter was written to is refering to the practice of the women yelling to their husbands across the congragation, because they weren't sitting with their husbands, and couldn't hear what was being said. So they would yell out "WHAT DID HE JUST SAY?". Women had a lower status back then, culturally, so they had to deal with that kind of stuff. That has changed.

Flooded the whole world for Noahs ark. Problems with translations is ... do you take the meaning or the exact word. The word used for world in this case could be taken to mean the geographical area in which noah lived. The land. He flooded the whole land. That doesn't mean the entire world. Which would also mean Noah didn't have to take every animal in existence, just the animals in the local area.

DreamSlayer & LUNZ

I apologized for not explainin' my words clear about Noah's Ark time. What I was tryin' to explain is that we are in Noah's time when the people were involved in party (drugs, booze, etc., etc), fornication, and all kind of things in Noah's ancient time like today/modern days. That's what I meant. *Chuckles* Please, pardon me for not enough explainin'.

Hey, you LUNZ lol ! I am not an excellent at math. I am good at explainin' in English.