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=Cheri]Where do we go when we die? Into a hole in the ground? Into yet another life through reincarnation? Through a tunnel towards a light? Most people in a Christian country would answer, "The good people go to Heaven and the bad people go to Hell." So many different answers can't all be right, but they all may be wrong.
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i heard alot about through a tunnel toward a light. Go to God(light) or rebirth in different life. i read some books. yeah....something like that.

Whose advice would you trust if you had to travel to a distant place: someone who had thought about going there, or someone who had gone there and returned? Obviously, someone who has experienced death knows much more about it than all of the people who have speculated about death. Even near death experiences can't tell the whole story of what happens after death. The only dependable answer comes from the one person who died, and on the third day, rose from the dead to live forever. Jesus, who conquered death, is clearly the most reliable authority on what happens after death.
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i agreed with you about "whose advice would you trust". im searched the truth in my heart and my mind for wisdom if it make sense. im tryin to be realist. yeah you were right about someone who has experienced death than us. we should listen them and igroned them. they telling a truth. i cant say that jesus is only one truth. im studyin different their bias on the bible. i know its very important to you. i aint chose any favorism of religious. im very open mind to everyone's view as im learnin everyday.
Jesus' clearest teaching on what happens to us after we die came when he himself was about to die on the cross. He told the dying thief on the cross next to him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43).1 The same Greek word for paradise is used in the Septuigint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament, to refer to a garden, park, or forest. It often refers to the Garden of Eden, (Genesis 2 and 3) and to the garden of God as it will be, (Ezekiel and Isaiah).2 Paul used "caught up to paradise" in parallel with "caught up to the third heaven",3 which is the place where God dwells. (2 Corinthians 12:2-4). Jesus expanded his promise of paradise in his Revelation to the Apostle John, "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." (Revelation 2:7)
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im glad you brought it up. i will search for you about jesus. i found it said different story about him. i will hold on.:fingersx:
 
illustrator said:
Only simple what we need to believe in god. God give you:

• Love
• Faith
• Forgiven
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That is very plain and simple. :D
 
*Chuckles* stop! i need some break..
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Need a break ? Sure !! Help yourself. lol ! Your poota don't ring ya unless you sit in your chair. :laugh2:

1) Just about everybody knows the word "Lucifer" as another name for Satan. The word "Lucifer" is found one time in the King James Bible.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(2) But what about the NIV? The word "Lucifer" is clean, bald-headed gone and now this creature is identified as the "morning star". Lucifer is the "morning star" in the NIV.

How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

(3) So we know that in the NIV the "morning star" is a negative, evil figure. Right? He was fallen from heaven. He was cast down to the earth. Can we find the "morning star" anywhere else in the NIV? Yes! The following passages in the NIV show the "morning star" as Jesus Christ! But the NIV just called the fallen creature of Isaiah 14:12 "morning star". Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV! Lord have mercy, Jesus! Help me, Lord.

NIV: Revelation 22:16,
"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you [1] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

NIV: 2 Peter 1:19,
And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

NIV: Revelation 2:28--
I will also give him the morning star.
NIV Reader, can you say to the "lord" OUT LOUD,

"Oh, lord, Thank you for giving me the NIV.
It is proper to call Jesus a fallen creature.
Jesus and Lucifer are the same.
Thank you, father."

If you can, the lord and father
you are praying to is--SATAN.

If you cannot say this, you need to
UTTERLY DESTROY
your perverted "bible". Don't even use it to "help" you.
Get a King James Bible so you can have the true word of God.
This is very serious.
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About NIV ... I can share about NIV here later. Not just only NIV but, other different bibles as well, except KJV. :mrgreen: No rush ! *rollin' up my sleeves and ready to rumbbleee* :P

(Pssst..readers, it's good to learn from this thread and to gain our knowledge. It's harmless to learn. *Winks*)
 
Hm... I am considering to take a religious studies class in the fall to get a firm grasp. then I can take a step into this "crossfire" ;)

Which is good to take- Religions in US... Religion- the Bible or International Religions... [pondering]

I used to consider to take Philosophy but lately I have been talking to many people about religions and they always flame me for not taking a PROPER course of bible studying therefore I am not enabled to speak against. Hm!

Now they cannot flame me.... >:]
 
Hello there... I am back ! lol Anyways...sorry about postin' alot in here. The reason I like to share things in this thread because, I love Jesus very much. You guys means alot to me, too through the love of Jesus Christ. Ok... here it goes that I just typed a little bit ago and I want to copy and paste it in here ...
Yeah, there are different bibles here:

ASV (American Standard Version)
AMP (Amplified Version)
CEV (Contemporary English Version)
GNB (Good News for Modern Man)
LB (Living Bible)
NAB (The Message New American Bible)
NCV (New Century Version)
NJB (New Jerusalem Bible)
NLT (New Living Translation)
NRSV (New Revised Standard Version)
NWT (New World Translation)
RSV (Revised Standard Version)
RV (Revised Version)
TEV (Today's English Version)
NKJV (New King James Version)

Except for KJV Authorized... The more we magnify the Lord and move closer
to him, the more lovely and true He proves Himself to be to us. As we move closer to this gem, the Word of God, and it is magnified (Psalms 138:2), studied (2 Timothy 3:16), mediatated upon (Psalms 119:148), and glorified (2 Thessalonians 3:1), we are at once humbled and awe struck by the purity of its many facets. It also attempts to answer the questions of those who would too quickly exchange the "fire"(Jeremiah 23:29) of this diamond for a counterfeit, subtly carved out of this spiritual ice age. The pages of the King James Bible are written with "the point of a diamond" for "the table of their heart". (Jeremiah 17:1)

However, the NIV, NASB, NKJV and KJ21 have "crept in unawares" into many
churches and homes. Upon examination they prove to be "unholy and profane"
In KJV - (1 Timothy 1:9)

Words in the Word:

The Language of the King James Bible is an introduction to the various magnificent
intricacies of our beloved English Bible. Show the following below:
1) The King James Bible contains God's Built-in-Dictionary, defining each word,
in its context, using the very words of the Webster's and Oxford English Dictionaries!
2) The King James Bible has a vocabulary and reading level which slowly builds
progressively from Gensis to Revelation.
3) The King James Bible uses words with the appropriate sound symbolism. It
has a vocabulary that phonaesthetically fulfills the Bible's own description of
itself as "powerful".
4) The King James Bible is the only extant access we have to the pure language lexicons of the 16th and 17th centuries.
5) The King James Bible gives a transparent view of the Greek and Hebrew vocabulary, grammer and syntax.
6) The King James Bible has an internationally recognizable vocabulary and spelling.
7) The King James Bible uses literary devices which enhance doctrinally important concepts and memorability.
8) The King James Bible has a sentence structure which enhances accurate doctorinal interpretation.
9) The King James Bible's words and sentences are patterned and woven through its fabric so as to provide a consistency of form and content.
10) The King James Bible has the precision and longevity of the legal document that it is. (To be equitable, all English speaking persons must be judged by the same criteria.)

The King James Bible, published in A.D. 1611, was actually entitled "The Holy Bible" for 300 years until after the turn of the 20th century when jealous new version printers sought to rename it. Upon checking new versions it will become apparent that it is still "The Holy Bible" and the others are counterfeits.

Ok, let me give you an example here for the both KJV and NIV ...
KJV: (1 Cor. 6:9-10)
"Be not deceived: neither...nor idolaters, ...nor effeminate, ...shall inherit the kingdom of God."
NIV in the same scripture says : "Do not be deceived: Neither....nor idolaters...will inherit the kingdom of God.

It's sad when I read what God says in KJV : Revelation 22:18-19, it says "For I testify unto every man that hearth the words of the prophecy of this book (The Holy Bible), If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book (The Holy Bible) of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".

Wow! That's powerful Word of God ! *Thud*
 
DreamDeaf said:
I gotta admit, I do believe in an Almighty God...She is my Higher Power...the goddess that keeps me sane and alive all these years...She's the best!

Smiles!

DD
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I take it you believe that your god is a female?
 
in response to CyberRed:

Well it seems you know King James Bible pretty well...

A lesson of history I am hoping you will correct: I recollected that King James was the one who broke away from the Catholic Church and the Parliment of England and founded a religion- Protestant and wrote his own bible...
am I remembering my history class accurately? ;)

Anyway my point is this- if my memory does serve me right then I would find it fishy that a ... KING.... wrote his verison of the Bible.. would it kill the whole purity of the Holy Bible? Because... the whole concept of royalty family goes like this: the king is the Holiness appointed by God. So... if I am to summarize every Christian's beliefs- a mortal cannot be a divine one because God is the only One, correct? And nobody can replace him or anything and Jesus was the only one that comes close to the God notion? Correct me if I am mistaken. I am trying to get an overall idea. Getting to the point- therefore King James... was a sort of... hypocrite for writing the bible? :dunno: But this would bring on another fireball of that every verison of Bible was written by men who have no holiness connections at all. Hm.

I am trying to remember that label of a genre where the books are written in fiction-like but still based on a true story/events.. OH HISTORICAL FICTION- .. is this the right label? Help me out here.
 
gnarlydorkette said:
in response to CyberRed:

Well it seems you know King James Bible pretty well...

A lesson of history I am hoping you will correct: I recollected that King James was the one who broke away from the Catholic Church and the Parliment of England and founded a religion- Protestant and wrote his own bible...
am I remembering my history class accurately? ;)

Anyway my point is this- if my memory does serve me right then I would find it fishy that a ... KING.... wrote his verison of the Bible.. would it kill the whole purity of the Holy Bible? Because... the whole concept of royalty family goes like this: the king is the Holiness appointed by God. So... if I am to summarize every Christian's beliefs- a mortal cannot be a divine one because God is the only One, correct? And nobody can replace him or anything and Jesus was the only one that comes close to the God notion? Correct me if I am mistaken. I am trying to get an overall idea. Getting to the point- therefore King James... was a sort of... hypocrite for writing the bible? :dunno: But this would bring on another fireball of that every verison of Bible was written by men who have no holiness connections at all. Hm.

I am trying to remember that label of a genre where the books are written in fiction-like but still based on a true story/events.. OH HISTORICAL FICTION- .. is this the right label? Help me out here.
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Sure..I can help. :) Here's the link you may explore at http://www.avpublications.com/3_catalogue/lob/lob_overview.htm

Otherwise, you may want to order a book called "The Language of the King James Bible" at the Christian Books Store in your local area. It has everything in it to explain about history and other corrupted books. The author's name is Gail Riplinger. She has B.A., M.A., and M.F.A. degrees and has done additional postgraduate study at Harvard and Cornell Universities. She wrote another book called, "New Age Bible Versions". The New Age Bible Versions was an international best seller. Gail Riplinger was honored with a Doctorate from the College of the nation's largest church.

Let me give you the scriptures to ponder. In KJV Bible - Matthews 11:25, Jesus says: "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes".

I hope that helps! :)
 
Is God Real?....

Is God real? That is the big question. If God is not real then you can play by whatever rules you like.... But if God is real then it is a whole new ballgame..... It is interesting to note that the vast majority of people do believe that there is a God....

How can we know if God is real? Wouldn't it be nice if we could pick up the telephone and give him a call? Or drive by his house just to see if his car was in the driveway?..... Fortunately, there are better ways to address this question..... Consider this perspective: since God is infinite and we are finite, if God wanted to make himself known he would have to make his presence clear.....

So, are there any signs that point to the reality of God? We can look at the world and see if the world is constructed in such a way that it is reasonable to believe that there must be a God..... Just as the hunter follows the trail of an animal that he has yet to see--paw prints, clumps of fur, broken branches--we are looking for the fingerprint of God in the physical world.....

Various signs (lines of reasoning) have been suggested over the last few centuries. Let us briefly consider three.... First, the world seems to work according to the universal law of cause and effect..... That is, every observable effect must have had an initial "push" by some agent or cause.... Every "thing" (a highly scientific term) that we observe is dependent upon other "things" for its existence.....

For example, children are dependent on parents and the earth is dependent on the sun. Thinking all the way back to the first event, it could be asked, who was the cause? This is where it appears that there must be a being that is "uncaused." Philosophers like to call this a necessary being.... Could that be God?

A second sign that should be considered is what scientists today are calling the marks of Intelligent Design.... The suggestion is that the universe exhibits purpose, design, and intent.... This is not a new idea; William Paley suggested that if you were walking through a field and found a watch on the ground that you would recognize it as a piece of machinery that had purpose and did not simply grow in the forest like plants and trees.... A rational conclusion would be that someone intentionally built the watch.... The universe is infinitely more complex than a watch and as a result points that much more to an intelligent designer.....

A third mark has to do with the moral foundation of the universe. C. S. Lewis referred to this as the "law of human nature." This is not to say that people everywhere are in agreement on all moral values, but that everyone does tend to live by certain common moral principles.... For example, people and cultures have different ideas about when it is appropriate to take another person's life, but no one (that would be considered sane) would hold that indiscriminate cold-blooded murder for no reason would be appropriate.... It appears that humanity has been intentionally created with an internal moral compass.....

All three of these marks appeal to our common sense and fit observations that can be made about the world.... Everyone may not be completely convinced by this reasoning, but it seems to make more sense to believe that God is real than that he is not.... If that is true, then maybe there are other things that can be known about God. Why don't you try to pick up the trail and see where it leads? ..... :D
 
* Some Things You Should Know...

As we race toward the end, we see many of the remaining 10% of the nearly 8000 verses of prophecy in the Bible coming to pass. The events in our world and in our history are unfolding and have unfolded just as God told us they would. God's prophetic program has proven to be excruciatingly exact. Whether you believe or not, whether you have been aware or not, the fact is that God is there and He has told us exactly what would come to pass throughout the trajectory of history, and so it is. Fire is hot whether we believe it or not. Water freezes whether we believe it or not. The Earth was round contrary to the popular belief of our forefathers. Prophecy is in place and coming to pass, and God is real whether we believe it or not.

An Example: God told us nearly 3000 years ago the exact day in the future that Israel would once again become a recognized nation in our world. Click Here to see this prophecy


* Have you not been aware?

If you are here reading this page, there is a good chance that you are looking for some kind of proof of our Creator. God has offered proof and that proof exists for anyone who cares to know about it. Why then have you missed it thus far? I don't know! But more importantly, you are here now so it is not too late for you.

But God didn't expect us to believe on blind faith alone

Throughout the Scriptures, God exhorts us to be vigilant, to study, to test things to be sure of them. God has created the human race with the ability to think and to make choices. We are not propelled by instinct as the animals are, but we have the ability to make logical choices based upon consideration. Though God loves us all, He does expect us to use our ability to think and to choose to come to know Him. It is not His intention to force Himself on us, but rather to wait patiently for us to choose Him. Therefore, God has done some things for us so that we could know that He is who He says He is.... IF we want to know.

God's First Testimony to us that He is the divine author of the Bible:

* A fact of history:

The bible was written by 40 men, chosen by God to write it. It was written over a period of 1,500 years. Those 40 men who wrote were on 3 separate continents, and were all writing the same thing, at the same time. The gospel of Christ. In that day, they had no mail delivery trucks, no drop ship planes, no Federal Express, no UPS and no e-mail. So how could it be then that they all wrote the same things while on 3 separate continents? Because as the men wrote, God spoke.

* God's Second Testimony to us that He is the divine author of the Bible:

Prophecy. The bible is approximately 40% prophecy. There are nearly 8,000 verses of prophecy in the bible. Of those nearly 8,000 verses, 90% of them have come to pass with excruciating accuracy. The remaining 10% are either in the works now, or will be coming to pass soon. Only God can tell our entire trajectory of history from the beginning to the end. And God has not been wrong yet. God's prophetic program has proven to be precise and exact.

* If you have not been aware:

The Bible is a supernatural book to say the least. It is not possible for humans to know the entire trajectory of the events of our world and to describe them in exact detail thousands of years before they happen. If you have been unaware of the existence of our Creator to this point in your life, it would behoove you to look to Him and get saved for God will not just go away because you have been unaware, He considers it your fault for not knowing. ( Click Here to see God's magnificent plan of salvation and how you can come to know Him and to be saved ) It would also behoove you to begin a study in God's prophetic program. God put it in place so that we could know ... if we want to know.


* A Problem:

Since God considers you to be responsible for who you are, for the choices you have made, and since He considers it your responsibility to get in step with Him and not He with you, then you have this problem... God is Holy and you are a sinner. God says that if you are not saved your sin will keep you out of His presence for all of eternity. God says that unless you are born again you will not inherit eternal life with Him. God says that unless you do something to be cleaned of your sinful state that you stand condemned already. It is not that God is picking on you, or that He wants to see you cast away in your eternal life, but it is that God cannot and will not allow the blemish of sin to tarnish the sin free Kingdom He will be setting into place. Yes there is a good and life saving study for you in prophecy, but I urge you to go a step further and trust in Him to save you. Jesus has died to cover your sins. It is HIS shed blood that will get you justification with God, not any good works you can do for yourself, and it is you and your sinful state that drove Him to die to cover you. So how can you be saved? It's much easier than you may know.



* An Introduction to Prophecy:

Assuming this universe and it's contents are the products of a supernatural, designer, creator, we must next examine how he could demonstrate conclusively that he exists and is that creator. I have often wondered why God doesn't pull back the veil and stick his face through the sky and introduce himself to each generation. However practical this may seem, most of us have not seen such an event in our life time. God will not just jump out at you to prove Himself. God is not interested in proving Himself, He expects you to seek after him, He expects you to realize your life and what is around you in what He has created. It has always been God's plan to reveal Himself to those who have chosen to seek Him. Just as a man would expect a woman to choose to love him and marry him (at least that is how it used to be) so God wants His children to want to choose to love Him.
We live in a universe with three dimensions of space and one dimension of time. These characteristics of the universe are created dimensions and are indivisible . That is, according to Einstein's theory of relativity, you cannot have time without space because they are coupled. Additionally, matter as we know it is also coupled to time and space. Therefore, if these are created characteristics of the universe, then the creator demonstrates that he exists outside and separate from them.

The God of the Bible demonstrates that he is the creator by demonstrating that he exists outside of our dimension of time. We humans are irreversibly trapped in this time domain and can only know the present and the past. It is impossible, under natural circumstances, to know anything that is in the future of our time line. If we received information about an event in our future it could only come from a source that existed outside our time domain. Since this could not be a natural source, it would be by default a supernatural source . This is exactly where the God of the Bible claims he dwells. The Bible is the he only book on planet earth that can demonstrate it's text comes from a being who exists outside our time domain. It does this by telling us things before they happen with incredible accuracy.

* A Note on Nostradamus, Edgar Cayse, and other so called visionaries and prophets:

"But Nostradamus and others have predicted world events and they have come to pass, and he is not God" someone will say. But these so called prophets have a tremendous deficit on their part... they have been wrong more than they have been right! God has orchestrated our outcome from the beginning to the end. He knows what will happen, and has told it to us. God has not been wrong, nor has He misguided us. The year 2000 brought tons of articles to the shelves in all kinds of magazines and tabloids. They all raved about how Nostradamus and Cayse and others predicted that the year 2000 would bring the end. Many cataclysmic disasters would also occur during the year 2000. The passage of time has proved them to be flat wrong. As a matter of fact, none of their prophecies for the year 2000 came to pass. While the passage of time continues to show the modern day self proclaimed prophets to be wrong, the passage of time continues to show God to be absolutely correct, and never wrong.
 
( Click Here to see God's magnificent plan of salvation and how you can come to know Him and to be saved ) It would also behoove you to begin a study in God's prophetic program. God put it in place so that we could know ... if we want to know.
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Speakin' of God's Face....He can not reveal His Holy Face to the sinners for He shall devour them. His Holy can wipe out anything that are dirt, sins, defile, pollution, etc., etc. once He approaches to it. It could explain why Heaven is pure clean without diseases, illnesses, pollutions, etc., etc. That's another reason why we can not see His Face while we are on the earth, because of it. Our sins smell bad. It stinks (bad odors). It pushes God away. We can fart, burp or whateva....but our sins. Sins are nastiest smell for God. It's a part of reason why He wants sinners to repent and be saved, so this way sinners' fragrance (by cleanin' sins through forgivin' and read the Word of God daily) can grow and He will draw sinners close to Him than ever. From this, He shall make His children more sweeter and perfume like Himself with no grudges, angers, resentments, etc.,etc. You may ask how He makes His children more sweeter and perfume ? *Chuckles* Through by readin' His Word. His Word transforms inside you to become a new person...no more "old" self-person. When you arrive in Heaven, your eyes can't take away from Heaven. Your eyes will draw to God's Awesome Art in Heaven. Everything in Heaven is transparent. We don't have "transparent" on this earth. Our earth's colours are solid and hard. But, in Heaven...everything are transparent in colours and they are unique soft. You will be able to see sparklin' colours everywhere in Heaven. Your mind can not grasp the excess of God's Wisdom. That's like you never saw anything like this before. Speechless ? Yep. *Chuckles* Your jaw may be drop on the floor once you see in Heaven, hmm? *laughin" Oh, hey...hold on your jaw, alwite? lol !
Wouldn't it be nice to look forward to ? :)
 
Smiles.

Actually, I believe in a Higher Power. I've heard people describe God in many different forms, and what it all boils down is that it's a Higher Power that they all believe in. Be he a Man or she a Woman, I still believe in God.

Smiles.
DD
 
See how much I miss when I go away for a weekend.

The King James version also came with a nice little list of Hollidays to be celebrated, that I couldn't seem to find in the scripture.

Although I respect the KJV, I do not consider it uniquily inspired during translation:

http://members.aol.com/ibss2/kjv.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/1967/

(My biggest complaint is that it used marginal notes from texts, instead of the actual texts for translation. These texts were read in the temple, but had been added for clarification, They have special names for these side notes .. but I forget what they are called)

Christ and Satan are the same person because they are both Morning Stars?
(Don't think the KJV escapes this either, it's in the liner notes as DayStar)

http://www.logon.org/english/s/p223.html

This is not a new point to be brought up, so Logical explinations have been given before.

Here is First Corinthian 6:9-10 in full, KJV, NIV respectively:

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Here is my point about translations. Neither is perfect, both are useful (especially together), and all the recognized ones are extremely close considering the complex task of translating an ancient language.

I forgot what else I wanted to say...
 
Oh yeah, I remember...

Heaven. I am very confused on how you can just assume that Heaven means sky everywhere, when you simply refused to accept "Whole earth", as "Whole land" in Genesis for the flood. Interesting.

However, The Bible states that God is bigger than the sky. It also talks about a third heaven: 2nd Corinthians 12:2.

Explination: Notice that in the context of this passage the "third heaven" (v. 2) and "paradise" (v. 4) seem to be used synonymously. Note further that the apostle regarded heaven or paradise as a place; a place in which God's glory was. One of the most popular commentators of the Bible states that it was "... the heaven of the blessed, above the aerial heaven, in which the fowls fly, above the starry heaven, which is adorned with those glorious orbs : it was into the third heaven, where God most eminently manifests His glory." (Matthew Henry's Commentary, Vol. VI - Acts to Revelation, p. 641.) I tend to agree with Matthew Henry's breakdown of the heavens. The first heaven would be the sky in which birds fly. The second heaven would include outer space where the stars and the planets dwell. The third heaven is where God dwells.

Full site: http://misslink.org/chapel/askaminister/future/3rdhvn.html
 
Hello there ... Good mornin' ! *Chuckles* I just woke up a little while ago. *sippin' Honey Peach Ginger hot tea*

I tend to agree with Matthew Henry's breakdown of the heavens. The first heaven would be the sky in which birds fly. The second heaven would include outer space where the stars and the planets dwell. The third heaven is where God dwells.
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You are right about 3 Heavens. God is really BIG God than the whole universe and earth. No universe can hold God, not even the Heaven itself. Ok, allow me to share somethin' here I just typed a little bit ago.

Ok ...read what it says in 2 Timothy 3:13 - 16, "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing
of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Ok, now look at the scripture what it says loud and clear in verse 16 : "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteous."

Speakin' of evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse...the vocabulary of this century is bound to be less of a reflection of the purity of God than that of the 1600's. Any important aspect of social structure and thinkin' is goin' to have a linguistic counterpart. We no longer have the word "shamefacedness," because this concept is not a part of the thinkin' of our times. It was, and still is a part of God's thinkin', so it is imperative that we keep the pure clean mirror of the KJV before our eyes.

The Lord has not left us to wand through a library of polluted lexicons, with their "private interpretation" forbidden in 2 Peter 1:20, KJV : "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation". He has set us upon a rock, the KJV. It is "a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal" allowin' us to see precisely what years of pollution have now muddied for readers of other versions.

The KJV is Orderly

God says in 1 Corinthians 14:40 (KJV), " Let all things be done decently and in order". (Dispensation = A system of orderin')

Now, most important is to be aware of what Satan did to God's children/people. Mark 4:15 (KJV), "Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts".

And, of course it's people's choice which book they want to read. It's their choice if, they want their mind to remain "dim" or not. I am here to explain a little what I know through my experience and for you to think about what you would like to do after you read this message I've just typed out.
 
" We no longer have the word "shamefacedness," because this concept is not a part of the thinkin' of our times. It was, and still is a part of God's thinkin', so it is imperative that we keep the pure clean mirror of the KJV before our eyes."

Wow.. so out of all those hebrew and greek words that were used to write down the words of God, they threw in the word "shamefacedness"? Ego am alpha kia to omega Shamefacedness? (that's the only sentence I know in greek, can't actually spell it, my comp doesn't have greek letters.)

Translation, is Translation, is Translation. KJV is a translation into english, not using some of the oldest texts I might add.

http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/fjust/Bible/English_Translations.htm

The point is: thousands of people read thousands of different Bibles, in thousands of different languages. "Shamefacedness" in not a word the french use, or spanish, or Russian. Maybe some of those languages have exact translations, but I seriously doubt they all do. That's maybe the closest english word to the meaning, but it is not the only word, and since God's words are living they are to touch even the youth of today. If I changed the word "jewlery" into "Bling Bling" The word may change, but the meaning hasn't... (for those who speak gangsta).

It is sad to add a new stipulation to Christianity. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. The KJV is the only way to truely know Christ. Then I guess only those who speak english will truely know the words of God.

I'm just curious, since I don't know much sign. What's the sign for "Shamefacedness"?
 
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" We no longer have the word "shamefacedness," because this concept is not a part of the thinkin' of our times. It was, and still is a part of God's thinkin', so it is imperative that we keep the pure clean mirror of the KJV before our eyes."

Wow.. so out of all those hebrew and greek words that were used to write down the words of God, they threw in the word "shamefacedness"? Ego am alpha kia to omega Shamefacedness? (that's the only sentence I know in greek, can't actually spell it, my comp doesn't have greek letters.)

Translation, is Translation, is Translation. KJV is a translation into english, not using some of the oldest texts I might add.

http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/fjust/Bible/English_Translations.htm

The point is: thousands of people read thousands of different Bibles, in thousands of different languages. "Shamefacedness" in not a word the french use, or spanish, or Russian. Maybe some of those languages have exact translations, but I seriously doubt they all do. That's maybe the closest english word to the meaning, but it is not the only word, and since God's words are living they are to touch even the youth of today. If I changed the word "jewlery" into "Bling Bling" The word may change, but the meaning hasn't... (for those who speak gangsta).

It is sad to add a new stipulation to Christianity. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. The KJV is the only way to truely know Christ. Then I guess only those who speak english will truely know the words of God.

I'm just curious, since I don't know much sign. What's the sign for "Shamefacedness"?
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Yep, you are right about the Hebrew and Greek. Let me give you the link here you may want to read http://www.icr.org/bible/kjv.htm . It tells about the translation. I'm just curious, since I don't know much sign. What's the sign for "Shamefacedness"?

How do I show what's the sign for "Shamefacedness" through this online ? lol ! I am readin' on my screen with out face or in person to show the sign for "Shamefacedness". Any suggestion for this ? *laughin'*
 
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