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Pls..I know more about CIs than u think. Besides u dont have one so u dont know wht it is like to have one. U made so many assumptions about so many people. We all have different views. I respect your view but I have my own. If u and others dont like it, that's ok.


Cough.. Im sorry... you think you know more about CI while YOU have no CI for yourself... Oh nice try!
 
Cough.. Im sorry... you think you know more about CI while YOU have no CI for yourself... Oh nice try!


I was responding to Fuzzy's post on his claims that I know nothing about CIs. I do know more than what I have shown here and it cracks me up that many of u assumed what I know or dont know without ever meeting me nor asking me.

No, I dont know what it is like to wear one but I know about the several studies and research on CIs.

Just because I responded to Fuzzy's comments about CIs being a gift for all children by saying that it is too bad that not all can benefit from them for whatever reasons (there are many and yes, I know them but which of them for each child, I cant assume) because it is unfortunate. That was all I was saying and many of u took my posts and twisted everything around.

I have stated that I have worked with some kids who have benefitted from their cIS and loved them BUT I do also work with kids who dont benefit from them and if u all cant accept that fact, dont blame me cuz I had nothing to do with it. All I want is their language level all caught up. That is my goal for all deaf children.

No need to be rude...
 
Ok I will neglect my lesson plans and have nothing ready for my classes so I can find out why their CIs dont work. I will tell my aide to teach my classes while I do this time consuming process when nobody is willing to give me the answer. After work, I will go to the children's house alllll over MD, spending $$ on gas and neglect my hubby and son to find the answers for each child.

Maybe while in the process, I will just get fired for not doing my duties as described on my job.

Sounds reasonable enough; after all it's only finding out why those kids' CIs failed that's important. Learning how to read and write isn't important and your kid and hubby will understand, right?
 
Sounds reasonable enough; after all it's only finding out why those kids' CIs failed that's important. Learning how to read and write isn't important and your kid and hubby will understand, right?

LOL! If only I can afford all the gas to drive all over MD to each CI center and beg them to break confidentality policies to give me the info on each child on when they were implanted, how involved were the parents, at what age they were implanted, the mechanics of their brand, and so much more.

I do know that one student is going back to the hospital for some tests to why her implant is not working. If the doctors dont know then how can I? :dunno:
 
Puyo Piyo
My friends enjoy it WITHOUT the headaches, brain throw the sounds in other place in the body, getting on the nerves, whatever I experience. That is why they wore it and happy with it, not me.

BINGO!! what does that tell you?
it tells ME, the CI generally does NOT cause all the symptoms YOU experience. Therefore, the problem MIGHT be with you, not with the CI. Do you get what I am trying to say? again, that does NOT mean it's your FAULT in any way. like you said, it's just how your body reacted to CI, and nobody's to blame. when I wrote "the problem lies with you" - I was looking for explanation, not blame.

And what's more, I born with very sensitive body, maybe I guess, and is that my fault? Of course not. Nor the CI's fault. I don't know if CI is right for me, and CI itself don't know if it can help me, and my body don't like the sounds, there is NOTHING to blame.

Exactly!!! maybe you were born super sensitive, and of course it's not your fault, nevertheless that is what has caused your severe reaction to the CI.
that is what I was saying all along.

Why I only wore it for 4 months and sometimes wear it after that? (I think you know the answer)

As I've said. I don't BLAME you, but you have to accept the fact that thru no fault of your own you were not wearing CI as much as you should have, and not worked as much as you should have in order to receive the best benefits, okay? thru no fault of your own.
the fact is you didn't have chance to use it to its full potential - I think you will agree with this simple fact.
maybe if you weren't having these problems, you would by now hear more and better.
again, nobody's to blame. it just happened- you were implanted, your body didn't like the implant, so you couldn't use it as you could have. end of story...

Everyday wearing my CI? With numb inside my mouth, headaches attack every hour or two, feel irrogrant by my families, my nerves going up dramatically? Tsk tsk tsk I don't think so, I prefer to wear it when I am expecting the sounds to come up


As I've said- I am only stating facts about CI - how do you know what would happen if you could wear it everyday? that has nothing to do with your unfortunate symptoms, or family.

Sorry, my body is part of me, my brain and my body agree to reject wearing CI everyday.


That have completely NOTHING to do with what I wrote. I was writing about human speech and language development, not you.

Okay then other example, what if your son decide to change to a woman and undergo the operation of the sex change? How would you feel about that? Surgical Produces can be very important for the relationship invole with families and friends.

It doesn't matter what situation - it is always the attitude and communication skills that play the role in relationship. If my son was sure this is what he needs and decided to change his gender, I would respect it.

Maria

I CAN speak through my own experience. It's UP to the parents to take my words for it or not. You can NOT say that I can speak for the child

I don't know if you are being stubborn, or you don't get what I mean. Let's drop it.
the only thing I still want to know is "How do you know HA works better for you than CI?" Please answer.



Liebling

Cloggy said that HA doesn't work on his daughter but CI does. I respect him instead of accused him that it's his daughter's fault, not HA? Would Cloggy like to hear that? I bet he would not.

It is not his daughter's fault that HA does not work, but it's not the HA fault either. But it is his daughter's hearing loss that cause HA to NOT work.

Fuzzy's post
I don't know. Obviously, the problem is with you not with CI.
To use the car analogy - suppose after always driving a small cars you got biggest SUV and you had an accident. Whose fault would that be- yours or the car?

This is just the matter of English.
When I reffer to Puyo, a human, I use the word "problem", because obviously it's not his fault that his CI is causing these symptoms.
But at the same time, it's not CI's fault either. Other people use CI with no problems that Puyo have. So, if CI does not cause other people numbness in the nose and mouth, and headaches, then perhaps it's Puyo's problem, not CI. that of course does not mean it's Puyo's fault that it is like that.

Then, when I am talking about a CAR - it's obvious that whoever causes a car accident is at FAULT. (unless of course the car suddenly broke)
That doesn't mean just because Puyo "caused" a car accident, he also "caused CI accident".
I was just trying to demonstrate by this example that maybe it's not the problem with *whatever* but with the person. Hope you get it.

just the language matter.

Oh yes, many "HOH" can hear music or talk on the phone with HA. I withnessed them in real life... They told me that they are really deaf without wear HA.

I am sorry, but what are you talking about? I am talking about people who had NO USE for HA, but can now hear with CI.

Accord your posts, I had the feeling that you beleive that CI is work for anybody, not HA.

No, I don't think so, and it's complicated matter.

CI or HA are the one who develop the children to hear only if they have good willing and get their parent's support...

CI is more advanced technologically than HA, period. It has nothing to do with parent's support and willingness to work.

Do my 2 hearing boys miss under 2 years speech and language development because of our deafness and use our sign language?

If the boys are HEARING - no they rather don't miss because of the parents deafness. unless they are not exposed to any sound.
If the boys are born deaf- then even if the parents are hearing - yes they do miss hearing sounds thus learning to recognize them.

Don't confuse two things: language development and ability to hear and speak.

The child-minder develop them with speech and language when they were under 2 years old. I do not see that they missing 2 years speech and language development...

because they COULD HEAR. it only matters when the child is born deaf, not when the parents are deaf.


Cloggy

Sometimes I don't get it. Many people have shown articles showing that there is a huge difference between early and late implantation for profoundly deaf children.
I guess you just refuse to read them, or just do not accept them.

It IS frustrating, isn't it.
I don't get it either. Here we have a proof and an EASY, clear explanation like a graph right in our faces, and yet it seem like some people are blind to it. Why is that is beyond me.

I also don't understand why nobody is getting the clue from this:

The most intensive period of speech and language development for humans is during the first three years of life, a period when the brain is developing and maturing. These skills appear to develop best in a world that is rich with sounds, sights, and consistent exposure to the speech and language of others.


There is increasing evidence suggesting that there are "critical periods" for speech and language development in infants and young children.


The ability to learn a language will be more difficult, and perhaps less efficient or effective, if these critical periods are allowed to pass without early exposure to a language.

What more is needed to understand why these graphs show clearly why the best CI results show youngest children?
and what more than this and graph together is needed to explain why early implantation matters so much?

Fuzzy
 
I'll be back!
Since I was gone alllllday to another state and I will be back tonight or tmw am.. I'm writing in my note to make sure I didn't twist it around :-P
 
I was responding to Fuzzy's post on his claims that I know nothing about CIs. I do know more than what I have shown here and it cracks me up that many of u assumed what I know or dont know without ever meeting me nor asking me.

No, I dont know what it is like to wear one but I know about the several studies and research on CIs.

Just because I responded to Fuzzy's comments about CIs being a gift for all children by saying that it is too bad that not all can benefit from them for whatever reasons (there are many and yes, I know them but which of them for each child, I cant assume) because it is unfortunate. That was all I was saying and many of u took my posts and twisted everything around.

I have stated that I have worked with some kids who have benefitted from their cIS and loved them BUT I do also work with kids who dont benefit from them and if u all cant accept that fact, dont blame me cuz I had nothing to do with it. All I want is their language level all caught up. That is my goal for all deaf children.

No need to be rude...

No need to be rude...
but in my POV. You don't have CI for yourself but you do view on other's etc and researches but still no CI for yourself..

Infact, I just got home from boston at mass eye and ear infirmary... now I awaiting for their approvals....
Yes its 3 half hrs drive each way. I met social worker, director of cochlear implantee team, and audie... audie tells my my db in my right ear is still same as 6 yrs ago... nothing change or improved. Infact the analog HA and the digital HA for last 6 years ( in beginning of 6 years) they weren't helping at all for my right ear because my sound sense already *adapted* to my ci and it was already set... If my ci broke, then its gonna take me long time to get used to HA.
IMHO, that it does success to most of children, some failed, some tried their best, some want to keep it on, some may not want to. I'm talking about a child/children who can't make their own decision yes I do aware of a peer pressure from Deaf Cultures.
It is parent's decision.

Oh puyo.. Whatever your name spells, I think you need to rethink on what you saying about babies/toddler/child's head with adult.. We all know it is fragiles but they do not HARM their brain or skull.... they do drill many many surgeons are very carefully when they use their tools in the surgery room and etc. I have seen some in my life since I had mine done...

If I had child again(which I will not... 3 is enuff) I would implant at early ages so they can grow up along with their languages, senses, sounds etc its not only for sounds or only for languages.. Its best for them start at young not at adult... I wish they done this long time ago but everyday everywhere on this earth are finding something new for many dieases, cures, helping with cp, etc you name it all...
Why just keep on fight for their rights of being silence.. Why not work together. And let it go flow and natural flow just like I do with my own hearings etc. I do admit I love my ci.

Oh heck, enuff from me tonight
 
No need to be rude...
but in my POV. You don't have CI for yourself but you do view on other's etc and researches but still no CI for yourself..

Infact, I just got home from boston at mass eye and ear infirmary... now I awaiting for their approvals....
Yes its 3 half hrs drive each way. I met social worker, director of cochlear implantee team, and audie... audie tells my my db in my right ear is still same as 6 yrs ago... nothing change or improved. Infact the analog HA and the digital HA for last 6 years ( in beginning of 6 years) they weren't helping at all for my right ear because my sound sense already *adapted* to my ci and it was already set... If my ci broke, then its gonna take me long time to get used to HA.
IMHO, that it does success to most of children, some failed, some tried their best, some want to keep it on, some may not want to. I'm talking about a child/children who can't make their own decision yes I do aware of a peer pressure from Deaf Cultures.
It is parent's decision.

Oh puyo.. Whatever your name spells, I think you need to rethink on what you saying about babies/toddler/child's head with adult.. We all know it is fragiles but they do not HARM their brain or skull.... they do drill many many surgeons are very carefully when they use their tools in the surgery room and etc. I have seen some in my life since I had mine done...

If I had child again(which I will not... 3 is enuff) I would implant at early ages so they can grow up along with their languages, senses, sounds etc its not only for sounds or only for languages.. Its best for them start at young not at adult... I wish they done this long time ago but everyday everywhere on this earth are finding something new for many dieases, cures, helping with cp, etc you name it all...
Why just keep on fight for their rights of being silence.. Why not work together. And let it go flow and natural flow just like I do with my own hearings etc. I do admit I love my ci.

Oh heck, enuff from me tonight

I never argued about when to implant a child.

Just stated that I have worked with children who werent able to get benefits from their CIs. If they were, they would respond to their names being called, respond to loud sounds and etc. When I ask the audi or their parents why werent they unable to get benefits from their CIs, they tell me that they dont know. Now, if anyone should do research, it should be them but they seem to have accepted it and now want their children to learn ASL due to their inability to develop oral skills.

Same with my brother and I...we both have the same degree of hearing loss...I was able to benefit from my HAs while he couldnt. To this day, we still dont know why. Sometimes things just happen for a reason.

Nothing to do with any opinions of mine..it is an objective statement based on my experiences. I cant speak for the children ..they are the ones who wear the CIs not me, not their audis, and not their parents. However, due to them being language delayed, they are unable to describe their experiences with their CIs.

Just seems like people got mad at me when I couldnt state the reasons for why some of the children werent able to get benefits from their CIs. Instead, I got accused of this or that and I just think it is a comedy. If I am being rude but I am blunt when it comes to people making assumptions about me without asking me first.
 
Puyo Piyo

BINGO!! what does that tell you?
it tells ME, the CI generally does NOT cause all the symptoms YOU experience. Therefore, the problem MIGHT be with you, not with the CI. Do you get what I am trying to say? again, that does NOT mean it's your FAULT in any way. like you said, it's just how your body reacted to CI, and nobody's to blame. when I wrote "the problem lies with you" - I was looking for explanation, not blame.

Then why I didn't experience headaches, sounds coming out of my mouth, nerves going up dramatically while I did not wear the CI? DUH! :roll:


As I've said. I don't BLAME you, but you have to accept the fact that thru no fault of your own you were not wearing CI as much as you should have, and not worked as much as you should have in order to receive the best benefits, okay? thru no fault of your own.
the fact is you didn't have chance to use it to its full potential - I think you will agree with this simple fact.
maybe if you weren't having these problems, you would by now hear more and better.

Well sorry I DISAGREE with this.


As I've said- I am only stating facts about CI - how do you know what would happen if you could wear it everyday? that has nothing to do with your unfortunate symptoms, or family.

I ALREADY TOLD YOU!!!! MANY TIMES!

That have completely NOTHING to do with what I wrote. I was writing about human speech and language development, not you.

Ohh then why you asking me? If you don't like my experience, then stop begging on me and making me feel lousy.

It doesn't matter what situation - it is always the attitude and communication skills that play the role in relationship. If my son was sure this is what he needs and decided to change his gender, I would respect it.

You can't just say you would respect him in one minute after he told you. You will want to have a LONG conservation with him, how he feel about himself, how can he tell if he was women, how can he defensive himself from being victim of transphobia, etc etc etc. Surgical Produce will NEVER take so lightly.

While I read all of your replies, all I can say, END OF DISCUSSION with me. Most of the time when someone who consider the CI asked me about the CI, I just express my experience with my CI very honestly, they understand me and understand my pros/cons, they did NOT treat me like I am not putting any effort, taking arugement, or anything LIKE YOU. You are all way ignorant against my experience and kept asking me for more and taking arguement against me. All I can say is :madfawk:!!! Don't talk to me, or asking me anything about my CI. FUCK OFF!

Everyone, sorry for my anger. I am just tired of this {Mod Edit: word removed--~RR}.
 
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Everyone, sorry for my anger. I am just tired of this {Mod Edit: previous word had been removed--~RR}.


I will allow that my reaction to the fact you weren't wearing your CI was very similar to Audiofuzzy's but then you mentioned the headaches that you were having and all of a sudden I'm thinking you sound like Smithr; well, no wonder this CI isn't working out for you.

I kept wondering why you and smithr and why not me? Does this happen to late deafened? I'd be most interested in hearing from them. Does this happen when you wear the CI or does this happen even when you're not wearing the speech processor and a zillion other questions. I don't think it's good idea to ask you a zillion questions though. I'm not a doctor and your doctor and the audiologist should be the ones asking the questions - not me.
 
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Then why I didn't experience headaches, sounds coming out of my mouth, nerves going up dramatically while I did not wear the CI? DUH! :roll:




Well sorry I DISAGREE with this.




I ALREADY TOLD YOU!!!! MANY TIMES!



Ohh then why you asking me? If you don't like my experience, then stop begging on me and making me feel lousy.



You can't just say you would respect him in one minute after he told you. You will want to have a LONG conservation with him, how he feel about himself, how can he tell if he was women, how can he defensive himself from being victim of transphobia, etc etc etc. Surgical Produce will NEVER take so lightly.

While I read all of your replies, all I can say, END OF DISCUSSION with me. Most of the time when someone who consider the CI asked me about the CI, I just express my experience with my CI very honestly, they understand me and understand my pros/cons, they did NOT treat me like I am not putting any effort, taking arugement, or anything LIKE YOU. You are all way ignorant against my experience and kept asking me for more and taking arguement against me. All I can say is :madfawk:!!! Don't talk to me, or asking me anything about my CI. FUCK OFF!

Everyone, sorry for my anger. I am just tired of this {Mod Edit: previous word had been removed--~RR}.


Not offended by your anger. U are entitled to how u feel. Hope u will feel better later. :)
 
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I will allow that my reaction to the fact you weren't wearing your CI was very similar to Audiofuzzy's but then you mentioned the headaches that you were having and all of a sudden I'm thinking you sound like Smithr; well, no wonder this CI isn't working out for you.

I kept wondering why you and smithr and why not me? Does this happen to late deafened? I'd be most interested in hearing from them. Does this happen when you wear the CI or does this happen even when you're not wearing the speech processor and a zillion other questions. I don't think it's good idea to ask you a zillion questions though. I'm not a doctor and your doctor and the audiologist should be the ones asking the questions - not me.

Audiofuzzy doesnt have a CI.

It is the same question I have in my head..why does it work for some of my students while it doesnt work for others.
 
I never argued about when to implant a child.

Just stated that I have worked with children who werent able to get benefits from their CIs. If they were, they would respond to their names being called, respond to loud sounds and etc. When I ask the audi or their parents why werent they unable to get benefits from their CIs, they tell me that they dont know. Now, if anyone should do research, it should be them but they seem to have accepted it and now want their children to learn ASL due to their inability to develop oral skills.

Same with my brother and I...we both have the same degree of hearing loss...I was able to benefit from my HAs while he couldnt. To this day, we still dont know why. Sometimes things just happen for a reason.

Nothing to do with any opinions of mine..it is an objective statement based on my experiences. I cant speak for the children ..they are the ones who wear the CIs not me, not their audis, and not their parents. However, due to them being language delayed, they are unable to describe their experiences with their CIs.

Just seems like people got mad at me when I couldnt state the reasons for why some of the children werent able to get benefits from their CIs. Instead, I got accused of this or that and I just think it is a comedy. If I am being rude but I am blunt when it comes to people making assumptions about me without asking me first.

Funny thing you mention about child not responsing... perhaps they were so focus on doing something or so....

As for me:
It's odd but honestly....
At my home when kids (any kids included friend's children) calling momma or wendy. I give them my attentions... when I am at this certain 1 house. That I had to *block out* everyone because eveyone is so LOUD even her deaf legally blind husband doesn't know he his very high voice that even mades their puppies peed when he raised his voice... their boys are hyper and loud as well.. In my house I always remind then *inside voice* or *outside voice*. If they want to be loud they can go outside and play wild. But not under my roof unless I'm in other room. My daughter though I was going *deaf* at our friend's house which I wasn't since I just block it out cuz of their habits with loudness noises....

Now in your working area...
Averages of their ages you mind mention it ? And perhaps you might find out something new or so....

Yeah about being mad or blunts etc
Don't worry. That's what forum are for.. To discuss in common sense and calmer... if I sound angry or mad then pardon me ;)

I'll be back......
Wendy
 
I will allow that my reaction to the fact you weren't wearing your CI was very similar to Audiofuzzy's but then you mentioned the headaches that you were having and all of a sudden I'm thinking you sound like Smithr; well, no wonder this CI isn't working out for you.

I kept wondering why you and smithr and why not me? Does this happen to late deafened? I'd be most interested in hearing from them. Does this happen when you wear the CI or does this happen even when you're not wearing the speech processor and a zillion other questions. I don't think it's good idea to ask you a zillion questions though. I'm not a doctor and your doctor and the audiologist should be the ones asking the questions - not me.

Yeah it's the individuals of people. That's all. Some people did not get headaches, or sounds coming out of their body parts other than brain, or whatever I've experience, some do. It's varies.

Not offended by your anger. U are entitled to how u feel. Hope u will feel better later. :)

Aww, I will feel better later :)
 
Funny thing you mention about child not responsing... perhaps they were so focus on doing something or so....

As for me:
It's odd but honestly....
At my home when kids (any kids included friend's children) calling momma or wendy. I give them my attentions... when I am at this certain 1 house. That I had to *block out* everyone because eveyone is so LOUD even her deaf legally blind husband doesn't know he his very high voice that even mades their puppies peed when he raised his voice... their boys are hyper and loud as well.. In my house I always remind then *inside voice* or *outside voice*. If they want to be loud they can go outside and play wild. But not under my roof unless I'm in other room. My daughter though I was going *deaf* at our friend's house which I wasn't since I just block it out cuz of their habits with loudness noises....

Now in your working area...
Averages of their ages you mind mention it ? And perhaps you might find out something new or so....

Yeah about being mad or blunts etc
Don't worry. That's what forum are for.. To discuss in common sense and calmer... if I sound angry or mad then pardon me ;)

I'll be back......
Wendy

Ok cool! Thanks and I am glad we are clearing this up. :)

I would never take one event and make a final assessment. That wouldnt make it valid. It was over several series of events. Even the audi stated that they dont benefit from their CIs. She is the one who is specifically trained in that area so I take her word for it. Also, their parents agreed. However, the question why, is what nobody seems to have the answer for OR they dont want to share. They have the right to keep the reasons to themselves.
In the 5 years I have taught...I have taught from 4 to 10 years old.
 
Sounds reasonable enough; after all it's only finding out why those kids' CIs failed that's important. Learning how to read and write isn't important and your kid and hubby will understand, right?

If they have all the tools in their respective toolboxes working properly then yes it will make learning to read and write easier but you knew that already with your wise ass remark.

See I am married to a teacher who always makes the time to make certain she knows her kids and I have observed her on the phone at night on her time making the calls that need to be made and yes her hubby and kids not only understand but respect and admire her dedication. So stick that one somewhere and I think even you can figure out where.
 
"If you concentrate only on the medicalized, pathological perspective of deafness and see the only benefit as being provided to the understanding and development of oral language skills, then these statistics and conclusions will hold up."

That is a misleading statement as the statistics and conclusions will hold up across the board. They are testing the subjects' ability to hear bi-syllabic words without visual clues (i.e. lip reading, manual language, etc). Unless you have discovered something new, fluency in sign language is not going to assist you in a speech recognition test where no visual clues are allowed.



"However, if you conduct the same research using children who have been provided a rich linguistic environment and have been givent he opportunity to develop language, and all its implications, in both manual and auditory/oral forms, you will see that the "benefits" gap is narrowed."


Whether that is true or not is irrelevent and not what is being tested. Likewise, if you allow the subjects to utilize their lip/speech reading skills the benefits gap will narrow as well.


"The deciding factor is what the expectation of the CI is. Is it expected that the child implanted will become fully oral and function as a hearing child linguistically and educationsally and socially, or is the expectation that the CI will wprovide sound perception?"

Not true, whatever the parents "expectation" of the ci is or is not has nothing to do with their child's performance in a bisyllabic open set word recognition without visual clues test. However, the parents' active involvement in their child's use of the ci post-implant seeing that they received proper speech and language therapy will play a significant role in their child's performance.


"For the parents who have already taken steps to insure that their child is provided with an environment that allows for language acquisition from birth despite the fact that the child is deaf, and expects that the child will receive some benefit of sound perception, yet continues to focus on that child's needs for language development, the CI can provide a great deal of benefit."

I agree and that is exactly what we provided for our daughter and today the results speak for themselves.



"For the parent that does nothing, waiting on the implant to be done prior to attending totheir child's developmental needs, the implant does not provide as great a benefit. The difference ios not in the time of implantation regarding the language delays, but of the parents apathy in attending totheir child's needs from the very beginning."


Also agree as to the parents' apathy and I suspect that those are types of children winding up in deaf schools similar to Shel's. However, the importance in the need to implant as close as possible to the onset of deafness is not minimalized or trivialized by your use of cliches and anti-oral rhetoric. It is a fact that does not change no matter how much you try to discredit it.

Where I part company with you is your not so subtle attempt to paint with a broad brush all parents who chose to raise their children oral only and with a cochlear implant. To label such parents as "apathetic" and choosing to "do nothing" demonstates a lack of understanding as to what exactly it takes to raise a child with a cochlear implant in an oral environment.

It is also indicative of your blinders approach to seeing any path other than the one you choose for your son as a viable one.

Someone much wiser than I once summed it up best saying that while we may have chosen different paths for our children to walk we have the same destination in mind.
 
If they have all the tools in their respective toolboxes working properly then yes it will make learning to read and write easier but you knew that already with your wise ass remark.

See I am married to a teacher who always makes the time to make certain she knows her kids and I have observed her on the phone at night on her time making the calls that need to be made and yes her hubby and kids not only understand but respect and admire her dedication. So stick that one somewhere and I think even you can figure out where.

That is so great for your wife and that is what a teacher does. I am so happy for your wife. Contrary to what u think, I have done the same. Just because I dont post EVERYTHING I do at my job doesnt mean I dont do certain things. Keep on calling me a liar...keep them coming. :)

However, u, on the other hand, have made so many assumptions about me and what I do in my life both personally and professionally based on posts I have made here instead of seeing what I do or even knowing who I am. Now that is a comedy! I dont know u nor I make false claims about u.

Oh..it is funny that by making your statements, it seems like u expect everyone and everyone's circumstances to be the same as u, your wife's, and your daughters'. Sorry, it doesnt work out that way.

Seems like u have a great family and everything did work out for u. That is what most of us hope to have in our lives.

U seem to have forgotten that others arent as blessed. By saying unkind things to many of us just because we dont live nor view the same as u, is really cruel. Everyone is different, have different experiences, different views, different circumstances, different money issues, health issues, and so much more.

During my first 2 years of teaching, I worked a 2nd full time job cuz I was broke, single, and in heavy debt so I was very burnt out and suffered a heart condition which left me hosptilized while 8 months pregnant for a week. Yet, I still came in to work 45 mins early and stayed an extra 30 mins late cuz I wanted my lessons to benefit my students. I have contacted the parents..few keep in touch with me while others never respond to me. Some of my studnets' families are dirt poor, live 100 miles away, have other problems, or dont have parents. Nope, I dont live in a whitebread and rich community where all the parents are actively involved. Yea, I am sure u are yawning at the fact is not everyone is blessed with an easy life.

U cant compare me to your wife cuz she had a supportive husband while I was broke, nearly homeless, moving around trying to keep myself from drowning in bills, problems with my ex hubby threatening me but yet, I provided quality education for my children. Many of my students' parents love me and we still email to each other even though their kids have moved on. What your wife did may be different or the same as what I did. The point is U dont know.

To imply that I am a bad teacher or say things lik "I hope u will never teach my kids." based on a few posts I have made here is really cruel of u. Yes, we have different views but your constant belittling me is just plain cruel. I dont know why and nor do I care. Just because I am against the oral-only education makes it ok for u to be cruel to me. I guess u are laughing as u sit and read this.

I just cant believe how cruel u have gotten in the last month or so with your posts to me.
 
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Ahhh
These ages... they could be like I used to be... Innocent and just do what I can do and do the best when I was child....
Now I just let it go flow and go with it....
I was talking with the audie today... the rhymes are so tough to figure out without looking lips or signs..... but I did admit to her that my daughter out of blue tells me when I pronounce words she correct me... later in the day I tell my husband.. Why he didn't let me know... why my 13 yrs old daughter who I rather them to enjoy their childhood first.... I know I know.. She loves me... I loves her... she and I help out each other with many things.... so then I said to my mother the same thing.. Lance and my mother said " I didn't know you want me to help out.. I just though to let you do on your own" I looked at them... and say:

Oh do it on my own? How the hell am I gonna correct myself without anyone helping me out by correct the pronouncations and the symblls.. (I'm too tired to correct spell) I was up at 4 am. Drove from my home to boston 3 half hrs, and back 3 half hours again... and picking up kids etc. I'm on my bed with my cellphone typing this up :)
I'm off to bed after the biggest loser is finish :-D


Example... when I want to say favor.. I prnounce flavor... when I say fever.. I say flever.. Kayla said no it sound you said flavor or favor so try drop out l. I'm like geez my 13 yrs old. But I always *thank her* for correcting me... I also learned when I said badge... it souns I said beige! I'm like eeeeewww that's tuff but I don't give up ....


Nite all,
Wendy
 
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