deaf 2 years old kids wear CI

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Hear Again said:
where do you get the idea that ci users have difficulty socializing in adulthood? i received my first ci at age 34, my second at age 35 and yet i don't have any difficulties with socialization.
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Ah, I actually didn't meant every CI user but lot of them out there were having some difficult times at that. Great that you don't have this problem, winks.
 
Bottesini said:
I think that was referred to oral only approach for deaf children. I am the living example of that.
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but where does the problem with socialization (with hearing peers) come in when a child is educated orally? i don't understand. are you talking about a child having difficulties socially because they weren't taught sign? if so, that i *can* understand.
 
vallee said:
I said she was entitled to her opinion. The I wish they would take out their CIs - come on - It is just as wrong for a person with CIs to say I wish he would get a CI.
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I do see your point and you're correct, it is wrong to say that about others, how would deaf people feel if someone says you must all wear cochlear implants, same meaning. ;)

faire_jour said:
I totally disagree!! The OP said that kids who use CI's shouldn't be welcome in Deaf schools and the Deaf community, and that they should all stop using their devices. That's not ok.
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That's absolutely correct, and I agree. :)

vallee said:
I am a deaf individual posting a comment against another deaf individual. I did take offense against the comments as a deaf individual.
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You have every right to feel what you feel, and they should respect how it offended you. ;)


And for damienmommy---- I can understand how you feel that you would like your deaf son with children that knows sign language so that he wouldn't feel left out, but I think you should do something about it by taking him out and putting him in another program where signs are permit. But, you cannot say "I wish those children didn't have cochlear implant" that can offended those who have cochlear implant. I hope you understand that. ;)

And for the rest of you who were bashing onto Vallee, knock it off, She is entitle to her opinion, deal with it. That's all I gonna say for right now. :)
 
Hear Again said:
however, i also think that each parent has the right to decide for his or her child what communication mode(s) is/are best.

after all, i don't have the right to speak for another parent about what choices are best for their child.
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Quite maybe? We need to realize that there are 80% deaf children's parents are hearing, and most of them don't know deaf culture and sign language... so therefore ask yourself as if they would make an excellent decision to make for his/her deaf child? It's tough one to agree on this part. But it sure is tough issue yet it's their child after all.
 
Gemma said:
Where in Oregon do you live in? I could help you with various schooling resources if you want as I live in Oregon too. I know there are many kids with CI who does sign as well as use speech. Sounds like you want bilingual education for your child.
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I live in Salem.
 
Hear Again said:
but where does the problem with socialization (with hearing peers) come in when a child is educated orally? i don't understand. are you talking about a child having difficulties socially because they weren't taught sign? if so, that i *can* understand.
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Yes
 
web730 said:
Quite maybe? We need to realize that there are 80% deaf children's parents are hearing, and most of them don't know deaf culture and sign language... so therefore ask yourself as if they would make an excellent decision to make for his/her deaf child? It's tough one to agree on this part. But it sure is tough issue yet it's their child after all.
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And in so many cases, the parents make decisions that arent right for their children based on their lack of knowledge of how to meet their deaf needs.

jTo the others, pls do not tell me that I dont know what I am talking about cuz I see it constantly IRL.
 
web730 said:
Quite maybe? We need to realize that there are 80% deaf children's parents are hearing, and most of them don't know deaf culture and sign language... so therefore ask yourself as if they would make an excellent decision to make for his/her deaf child? It's tough one to agree on this part. But it sure is tough issue yet it's their child after all.
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actually, i thought the figure was more like 97%.

at any rate, i don't think i have the right to tell another parent whether or not they should expose their child to deaf culture, the deaf community or sign. that's up to them -- not me.

after all, i don't know their child like they do.

having said that, if i have a d/Deaf child who is implanted, they *will* learn how to listen, speak, sign and be a part of the deaf community.
 
Hear Again said:
actually, i thought the figure was more like 97%.

at any rate, i don't think i have the right to tell another parent whether or not they should expose their child to deaf culture, the deaf community or sign. that's up to them -- not me.

after all, i don't know their child like they do.

having said that, it does mean that i wouldn't make those choices for my child. if i have a d/Deaf child who is implanted, they *will* learn how to listen, speak, sign and be a part of the deaf community.
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Unfortunately, in so many cases, it is the people in the Deaf community, like their teachers, counselors and etc who know their children more than they do. I wish in real life it was all peaches and cream for every deaf child of hearing parents but it is not as I have personally seen in the last 10 years in the field of Deaf education.
 
an implanted child can be just as happy orally as they can with sign.

again, i'm not saying children with ci's should learn sign or be exposed to the deaf community, i'm only stating a fact.
 
Having only become deaf within the last year, I am the first to admit I don't understand ASL. Having been hearing for so long, and having a grandmother that was an English teacher, I had "proper English grammar" drummed into me since I was a child. Therefore, I don't always understand posts from those that only communicate using ASL. When I first read the start of this thread, I felt those choosing CI's were being attacked. Gut reaction. I didn't comment, as I realized I could be wrong and the fact that I didn't comment was the best choice.
Reading further, I realized it wasn't an attack on those wearing CI's but anger and frustration from a parent who's child was hurting. A deaf child should be taught ASL, with or without a CI. Actually, it would be great if it was offered as a second language in mainstream schools. My oldest learned some while in Kindergarten as the teacher had a deaf child. She still remembers the little she learned.
All that being said, given the fact that choosing a CI can be a touchy subject to start with, it is not surprising that someone with a CI felt threatened and responded to their own gut reaction.
JMHO
 
shel90 said:
Unfortunately, in so many cases, it is the people in the Deaf community, like their teachers, counselors and etc who know their children more than they do. I wish in real life it was all peaches and cream for every deaf child of hearing parents but it is not as I have personally seen in the last 10 years in the field of Deaf education.
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no matter how well the deaf community knows a particular child, they do not have the right to speak on their behalf and fail to consider the parents' wishes.
 
jillio said:
Again, the quotes that you have claimed she made are not there. The words you have bolded are not the words you typed in a previous post and accused her of using.

Shame on you, too.
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heyhey, i did said that but i don't means to hate ci, I just feel upset and said that. which I don't meant it. Someone said kids with ci is still deaf. But I think, why didn't kids with ci learn the signs if they want kids attend in deaf program or go to deaf school or being in deaf community. They teach kids how to talk as oral, not signs, then why they are in deaf program? That what I don't understand.

And they telling me that my son is in wrong school huh..that school used to have kids who know signs, but now this year, none..just him. and they telling me that son should be move other school..so I feel like they trying to replace the kids with ci with oral only to move in this deaf program and my son should go to other school. That's offended me.
 
Cheri said:
Close but no; 90% of Deaf children are born to hearing parents where as only 10% are born to Deaf parents. ;)
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That is the statistic that is often quoted, but I do think it is actually a little higher than that.
 
Hear Again said:
actually, i thought the figure was more like 97%.

at any rate, i don't think i have the right to tell another parent whether or not they should expose their child to deaf culture, the deaf community or sign. that's up to them -- not me.

after all, i don't know their child like they do.

having said that, if i have a d/Deaf child who is implanted, they *will* learn how to listen, speak, sign and be a part of the deaf community.
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I concur. It's just unfortunate situation about those deaf children in other end even despite we agree that it's their parents' rights to decide so. Like we discussed before in other thread, it's high time to educate those parents about the methods and such along with the truths, etc.

I'm glad that damienmommy foresee the problem at his son's school which she wasn't pleased. Ah, times has changed over there so I think it's better for them to find other school to fit their wish well.
 
Cheri said:
Close but no; 90% of Deaf children are born to hearing parents where as only 10% are born to Deaf parents. ;)
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I think this rate is more appropriate, whatever but still is a lot.
 
Hear Again said:
no matter how well the deaf community knows a particular child, they do not have the right to speak on their behalf and fail to consider the parents' wishes.
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Sometimes, in many cases, I think they should cuz it is the children who are being deprived of language access at home and at the school which can adversly affect them for a lifetime especially in the area of literacy development. The child ends up living a life of poverty unable to support him or herself ..all because the parents make the decisions using their hearing point of view.
 
faire_jour said:
That is the statistic that is often quoted, but I do think it is actually a little higher than that.
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I can't assume, I only go by what the statistic had stated. ;)
 
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