Can children distinguish early on...

The day I start talking auto mechanics is the day you need to have me probated. I will have completely lost my mind at that point and will not know who I am.:giggle:

Oh yea! I can imagine you telling people like Deafsmogish that he is incapable of understanding smog readings and that he wants to spread inaccurate information to frighten the public about smog levels from vehicles. :lol:
 
Oh yea! I can imagine you telling people like Deafsmogish that he is incapable of understanding smog readings and that he wants to spread inaccurate information to frighten the public about smog levels from vehicles. :lol:

That would definately make me the horse's ass those few accuse me of being!:lol:
 
I knew that there were differences between black people and white people at a young age. My understanding was limited to the physical appearances, not the cultural aspects. Same thing with my deafness but then again, I wasnt exposed to Deaf culture or ASL at that time, so it is probably a moot point in my case.

For me it was similar.

I didn't understand that everybody else was not like me until I started mainstream school and realized, very quickly, that I was very much different from the other kids.

When you are little you are, how do you say, in a cocoon with your family and so your world is very small. I didn't realize that my family and extended family was making accomodations for me. It was just the way it was and I knew no different. When you go to school that world becomes, suddenly, very big and differences are much more magnified.
 
For me it was similar.

I didn't understand that everybody else was not like me until I started mainstream school and realized, very quickly, that I was very much different from the other kids.

When you are little you are, how do you say, in a cocoon with your family and so your world is very small. I didn't realize that my family and extended family was making accomodations for me. It was just the way it was and I knew no different. When you go to school that world becomes, suddenly, very big and differences are much more magnified.


yea, at 5 all I remember is kindergarten with all of my hearing peers and I remember one thing....that I didnt like the games that were played in the dark because I knew I was different then. Other than that, i never felt I was different. It was around 3rd and 4th grade when I started really understanding how different I was and that was when I started my fight against it.
 
For me it was similar.

I didn't understand that everybody else was not like me until I started mainstream school and realized, very quickly, that I was very much different from the other kids.

When you are little you are, how do you say, in a cocoon with your family and so your world is very small. I didn't realize that my family and extended family was making accomodations for me. It was just the way it was and I knew no different. When you go to school that world becomes, suddenly, very big and differences are much more magnified.

Same here.
 
yea, at 5 all I remember is kindergarten with all of my hearing peers and I remember one thing....that I didnt like the games that were played in the dark because I knew I was different then. Other than that, i never felt I was different. It was around 3rd and 4th grade when I started really understanding how different I was and that was when I started my fight against it.

That reminds me of something. A friend that I went from K to 12th grade with found me on FB the other day and we were talking about when we were kids. I told her it used to confuse the heck out of me because we both had long hair braided into pigtails, but she just twisted the ends of hers to keep them from coming loose. I had to put hair ties on mine, and I couldn't figure out why. I mean, heck...we both had black moms, and we both had pigtails...what could be so different about us? The fact that my hair was different because my dad was white never entered my mind. LOL
 
It confused me, too. The only thing I can think of is that someone doesn't understand when I say that a child can say they are deaf, and know they are deaf, but still not be capable of identifying as Deaf. Identifying, as in giving a name to something (deaf) is an entirely different concept than identifying as something (Deaf).

Heck, I only identified as Deaf in the last 7-10 years and I've been Deaf my whole life. I'm 46 now. Does that make me 'slow' in my development? :giggle:

You once say to me, "Even after exposure, there are those hearies that refuse to grasp that there are differences. Oh, well. Just leave them in ignorance, I guess."

Evidence of that in this thread? :shock:
 
yea, at 5 all I remember is kindergarten with all of my hearing peers and I remember one thing....that I didnt like the games that were played in the dark because I knew I was different then. Other than that, i never felt I was different. It was around 3rd and 4th grade when I started really understanding how different I was and that was when I started my fight against it.

Hide and play seek was *not* my favourite game. :giggle:

Strange that to this day I don't like the lights off. I always have a candle or my bathroom light on. Just don't like darkness.
 
You cant understand what's going around you when it's completely dark. I don't like it either. I have nightlights galore around the house, as well as range/hood light on. I don't sleep well otherwise.
 
That reminds me of something. A friend that I went from K to 12th grade with found me on FB the other day and we were talking about when we were kids. I told her it used to confuse the heck out of me because we both had long hair braided into pigtails, but she just twisted the ends of hers to keep them from coming loose. I had to put hair ties on mine, and I couldn't figure out why. I mean, heck...we both had black moms, and we both had pigtails...what could be so different about us? The fact that my hair was different because my dad was white never entered my mind. LOL

Because your dad was Jewish, correct?
 
Right. It is only those that are ignorant to the subject that seem to want to throw out statements about how wrong I am. It just shows that they do not have the knowledge they need to even be discussing child development.:lol:

I am sure the world of developmental psychology will be revising all of their theories tomorrow based on what Fuzzy and a parent blinded by their belief that their child is a genious believes. I am certain that Erik Erikson is rolling over in his grave with embarrassment over his own ignorance. LOL

Erikson, Piaget and a few others were frauds. :giggle:
 
Yes, because you had not developed an identity as either one. A child at this age can identify what they are not, as it is a much easier process that possessing an identity of who one is.

An interesting note, a hearing parent raising a Deaf child in a bilingual bicultural environment rarely realizes the unspoken messages that the kids internalize from that environment. My son, until the age of 5, thought that I was deaf, as well. I always used sign with him, and he knew that people that were not "deaf", in his experience, used spoken language. Therefore, because I used ASL, he assumed that I was deaf. I saw him tell another child that he was "Deaf same mommy". I corrected him that I was not deaf, I was hearing. It was very difficult for him to grasp, because at that age, a child's knowledge of what "deaf" even means is limited to their experience. If they have never heard, telling them that they are deaf because they can't hear is not even something they can grasp fully. Imagine them trying to sort through the specifics of Cultural Deafness.

There is a very good reason that we use age appropriate language and comparisons when we explain complicated concepts to children. You would not try to explain sex to a 5 year old in the same way you would a 15 year old. There is a reason for that.

Shel and I have discussed topics like this in the past. As a M.Ed., she has studied child development and applies that knowledge to students on a daily basis. She is in agreement with me regarding the developmentally determined capabilities of a child.

Exactly! I thought my family was Deaf because, until I went to mainstream school, we signed. I don't remember my siblings signing so, as a 4 or 5 year old Rebecca, I probably thought they weren't very smart and didn't know how to talk. :giggle:
 
You cant understand what's going around you when it's completely dark. I don't like it either. I have nightlights galore around the house, as well as range/hood light on. I don't sleep well otherwise.

I may be different from you and Rebecca....I need complete dark to be able to sleep but if my hubby is out of town on a business trip, then I need a nightlight.

Maybe I am audist in that way that i am just discriminating myself. :hmm:
 
Heck, I only identified as Deaf in the last 7-10 years and I've been Deaf my whole life. I'm 46 now. Does that make me 'slow' in my development? :giggle:

You once say to me, "Even after exposure, there are those hearies that refuse to grasp that there are differences. Oh, well. Just leave them in ignorance, I guess."

Evidence of that in this thread? :shock:

Big time evidence!:giggle:
 
I may be different from you and Rebecca....I need complete dark to be able to sleep but if my hubby is out of town on a business trip, then I need a nightlight.

Maybe I am audist in that way that i am just discriminating myself. :hmm:

No, it just means you have a good comfort level while sleeping.

Mine is a few degrees down from you. For all that I mentioned, that's still with SO at home. If he's not, which is unbelievably rare, I really don't sleep well. I see a shadow and imagine the worst. Because I don't hear it.

And, it's always the cat. :lol:
 
You cant understand what's going around you when it's completely dark. I don't like it either. I have nightlights galore around the house, as well as range/hood light on. I don't sleep well otherwise.

Yes, I have nightlights on each floor of my house as well. I'm bad for that world day. What's it called? You turn all of your lights off for an hour to save electricity? :giggle:
 
No, it just means you have a good comfort level while sleeping.

Mine is a few degrees down from you. For all that I mentioned, that's still with SO at home. If he's not, which is unbelievably rare, I really don't sleep well. I see a shadow and imagine the worst. Because I don't hear it.

And, it's always the cat. :lol:

My son still prefers a night light. When he was young, he had a night light in his room, one in the hall, and I left the stove light on all night. He hated not being able to see well.
 
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