Baby born deaf will get 'bionic ears' that could help him hear and talk

[deafskeptic]

And there are the few that bought right into it because they saw an opportunity to play out a personal dislike.

Yep. :roll:

 

[jillio]

I disagree.....but no biggie. I mean this wasn't a debate thread. :shrug:

Again, how would you have stated that fact? It is important information for a hearing parent to know regarding their deaf child. So how would you have gone about stating it?

Or, could it be that educating a hearing parent regarding deafness is of no concern to you unless it gives you the opportunity to fulfill your own childish needs?

 

[TXgolfer]

I'm disturbed by the fact that the mom arrived here by googling her kid's name. She came here looking for a fight and then played the victim. Very manipulative.

Personally, I won't even put my kids' names on Facebook. Some people want more attention.

Reading her first post it seems to me she came here to confirm that bionic ears were in fact CIs and that she respected dealt culture enough to know that she would give her child access to ASL and deaf education... *shrug*. Looks like she was trying to appease to me.

 

[kokonut]

Reading her first post it seems to me she came here to confirm that bionic ears were in fact CIs and that she respected dealt culture enough to know that she would give her child access to ASL and deaf education... *shrug*. Looks like she was trying to appease to me.

Exactly. And what was the justification on going after here, btw? And, oh, technically it's BSL over there across the pond.

TXgolfer...did ya hear about the oil boom in TX? Whooo!

 

[jillio]

Reading her first post it seems to me she came here to confirm that bionic ears were in fact CIs and that she respected dealt culture enough to know that she would give her child access to ASL and deaf education... *shrug*. Looks like she was trying to appease to me.

Again, how would you have stated that fact? You seem to be oh, so willing to criticize and point fingers. How about a little productive activity. How would you make a statement of fact?

 

[sallylou]

No, TXGolfer. See #246. I figured out her game before this but here's where she admits it.

 

[TXgolfer]

Exactly. And what was the justification on going after here, btw? And, oh, technically it's BSL over there across the pond.

TXgolfer...did ya hear about the oil boom in TX? Whooo!

for the correction.

Yes I heard tale or 2 about it...

 

[jillio]

Yep. :roll:

And it is still going on. What a shame that some silly boys don't have anything better to do.

 

[deafskeptic]

No, he meant needle. Or more specifically pin. In reference to how many camels can you fit on the head of a pin?

The tip of an iceberg would be used to reference a solution that could not begin to solve a problem.

Let's not forget .

 

[GrendelQ]

I'm disturbed by the fact that the mom arrived here by googling her kid's name. She came here looking for a fight and then played the victim. Very manipulative.

Personally, I won't even put my kids' names on Facebook. Some people want more attention.

She wants attention paid to CMV. This disturbs you?

Her child was featured in the news, she found here a discussion underway about him and their choices, including several mis-statements and erroneous assumptions. She didn't seem to be looking for a fight: in fact she started by answering questions very calmly, directly, without any bristling or manipulation, and even addressed several demands put to her. The people looking for a fight were already into it before she even stepped into the conversation ... ABOUT HER KID.

There's sharing experiences (and that goes two ways), having an open discussion about different approaches, and providing information and expertise. This is great. And there's telling people you know very little about how they should be raising their children, whose needs you don't and can't know, regardless of what you think you might have in common. This is ridiculous and offensive.

 

[TXgolfer]

No, TXGolfer. See #246. I figured out her game before this but here's where she admits it.

We disagree. The moms first post came after....

This is a case of experimentation and is a result of the overwhelming audist nature of hearing society

IMO the mom was pretty polite in her first post.....we can agree to disagree.

 

[shel90]

Would you onsider post 19 a friendly weloming to a new member?

It is a matter of perspective. I see it as stating a factual information. It depends on how others want to take it. However, the most important thing is was that there was no name calling in that post, right?

 

[AlleyCat]

He is an infant. It is impossible at this point to tell how much he would be able to use his residual hearing with HAs.

I don't understand the hoopla going on the past few pages regarding this specific post. Am I looking at the wrong one?

As far as I can see, Jillio is right -- how would any mother know what kind of residual hearing is left in an infant? I have a profound loss, and even my own parents couldn't know what residual hearing I retained when I was an infant myself. (And I am a CMV child, same as the child in this specific case.)

 

[TXgolfer]

It is a matter of perspective. I see it as stating a factual information. It depends on how others want to take it. However, the most important thing is was that there was no name calling in that post, right?

Hey I'm no judge. I'm not even on a disciplinary board. I just gave an opinion. *shrug*

maybe I will become a greeter and give people a tour of the site. "kids keep your hands out of the cages".

 

[TXgolfer]

I don't understand the hoopla going on the past few pages regarding this specific post. Am I looking at the wrong one?

As far as I can see, Jillio is right -- how would any mother know what kind of residual hearing is left in an infant? I have a profound loss, and even my own parents couldn't know what residual hearing I retained when I was an infant myself. (And I am a CMV child, same as the child in this specific case.)

He/he/his makes it specifically about the new posters son. So not just a generic fact. That is one problem

 

[sallylou]

Grendel, I've tried to reach out to you on several occasions. Obviously, you're not interested in anything I have to say. You can put me on ignore.

 

[AlleyCat]

He/he/his makes it specifically about the new posters son. So not just a generic fact. That is one problem

It doesn't change anything.

Any infant that has been diagnosed with a hearing loss can't have their residual hearing determined at such a young age.

Would you rather that she had said "ALL infants" ? I'm trying to figure out what you guys are taking issue with. She was replying to the mom's post about her own son, so I can see why Jillio said "He". I would have said the same, sorry....

 

[Foxrac]

And here is another opportunity for analogy:

Kokonut has me on ignore. Therefore, he is getting only half of what is being said in this discussion, and as a consequence, is asking questions that have already been answered in previous posts. It is serving to derail the discussion.

Kind of like a deaf kid in a mainstream oral classroom, huh? See the effects of not getting all of the information?

There is way to bypass to make kokonut to read is find any members that one of your best friend and ask them to do third party post, such as quote your post in your friend's post. That what I did it before but not anymore because he puts me on ignore list.

Most of your statements are good and there is no reason to put you on his ignore list, also that's show kokonut has no balls to debate with you and Jiro.

 

[Foxrac]

Kind of like you and TxGolfer are doing now? Or the way you did with your blatant trolling thread this morning?

She has no idea what Deaf culture looks like. Her son is a year old. She hasn't even ventured into it yet.

I cannot saying that they are similar person, however I do have a lot of respect for txgolfer but zero respect for kokonut.

 

[GrendelQ]

Grendel, I've tried to reach out to you on several occasions. Obviously, you're not interested in anything I have to say. You can put me on ignore.

Not sure I understand your reasoning here. We've had quite a few very nice PM conversations -- you are interested in being friendly one on one, but not willing to engage in discussions on the forum if we don't agree on a topic? I can respect and like people with whom I don't agree -- I come from a family of conservative republicans I love very much despite that aberration.

On my part, I'm happy to discuss issues with you, both when we agree and when your perspective is diametrically opposed to mine. In this case, I think you're taking an odd leap by assigning motives to a poster (as when you refer to Calum's mother as manipulative, attention seeking, playing the victim, and gaming simply because she came on to the forum, directly answered a raft of questions and challenges playing out among strangers in a debate about her own child and her own decisions, and emphasized the obvious fact that this is her child, and decisions about language and learning and technology remain hers to make regardless of how much squabbling occurs here on this thread.

Now on the other hand, if you don't like my responses to you or to others, of course, my feelings wont be hurt if you take your own advice .