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Banjo said:
Yes, he is experienced. However, by retiring his license to practice his profession, he cannot treat people. Just like a retired doctor cannot practice medicine without a license.
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yep and he is free to make any comment on anything. that's why advertisers use people like him to support any claim.
 
Yes, he is experienced. However, by retiring his license to practice his profession, he cannot treat people. Just like a retired doctor cannot practice medicine without a license.
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No, I know, This is true,
but all the same, just because someone hanged his licence to retire
doesn't suddenly void his entire life work experience, college degrees including.

Dr Phil or Dr Drew may not practice their profession on TV per se,
they may simply create programs that focus public awareness on certain subjects like addiction, marriages issues, parental issues etc
and I see nothing wrong with that - on the contrary,
thanks to shows like that the public awareness HAVE increased in many these areas,

however if you are paying attention to what they say you would notice that
they usually also say to their participants
"if you are willing/want, we will assign you a licensed psychotherapist in your area".

I am sure Dr Phil until his licence was valid he could have offered his services as well, though, if he wanted to.
but, mostly, he has resources to use other professionals to chose from.

Fuzzy
 
Reference to my Christian beliefs. If you want to know more, feel free to PM me anytime
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Thanks, of course I knew... I was just kidding :D

Hope you find serenity in your belief :wave:

Fuzzy
 
yep and he is free to make any comment on anything. that's why advertisers use people like him to support any claim.
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Let's not go too far. Not even advertisers can use him any way they like.
He can, and will, sue for any mis-use of his person.

Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
No, I know, This is true,
but all the same, just because someone hanged his licence to retire
doesn't suddenly void his entire life work experience, college degrees including.

Dr Phil or Dr Drew may not practice their profession on TV per se,
they may simply create programs that focus public awareness on certain subjects like addiction, marriages issues, parental issues etc
and I see nothing wrong with that - on the contrary,
thanks to shows like that the public awareness HAVE increased in many these areas,
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public awareness? lol!!!!

they can set up non-profit organizations and not hand in their license but no... they chose to be a quack because that's where money is. they're no different from evangelists.

Audiofuzzy said:
however if you are paying attention to what they say you would notice that
they usually also say to their participants
"if you are willing/want, we will assign you a licensed psychotherapist in your area".

I am sure Dr Phil until his licence was valid he could have offered his services as well, though, if he wanted to.
but, mostly, he has resources to use other professionals to chose from.

Fuzzy
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yes - he has other professionals to fix his mistakes because he knows these professionals cannot talk about it to public. that's what happens when they are licensed and when Dr. Phil is not licensed. How convenient, huh?
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Let's not go too far. Not even advertisers can use him any way they like.
He can, and will, sue for any mis-use of his person.

Fuzzy
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What about the match.com ad campaign that Dr. Phil did a couple of years ago. Dr. Phil endorsed it, the masses flocked to the site to sign up. I don't much care for online dating sites. They're just weird to me.
 
Like it or not, Jiro,

the shows like Dr Phil or Dr Drew or Intervention does create certain awareness
of what the discussed problem is.

Granted, since this is a show directed at average, general public it can not be overly scientific or the majority of viewers would not get
a half of gist of it.
It also has to be presented in such a package that is easy to understand to the average viewer.

To be interesting, it also has to be somewhat sensational.
Do tell me how do you yourself like boring, tedious technical study hall lectures, ah??

You need to engage the public if you want to teach it something.

Bottom line is, these show do pass quite a chunk of knowledge that otherwise wouldn't be
ever absorbed.

Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Like it or not, Jiro,

the shows like Dr Phil or Dr Drew or Intervention does create certain awareness
of what the discussed problem is.

Granted, since this is a show directed at average, general public it can not be overly scientific or the majority of viewers would not get
a half of gist of it.
It also has to be presented in such a package that is easy to understand to the average viewer.

To be interesting, it also has to be somewhat sensational.
Do tell me how do you yourself like boring, tedious technical study hall lectures, ah??

You need to engage the public if you want to teach it something.

Bottom line is, these show do pass quite a chunk of knowledge that otherwise wouldn't be
ever absorbed.

Fuzzy
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do you watch their shows? I'm not talking about couple of times.
 
Well, not anymore, but for awhile I did.

The thing is, to be able to see more than is on the mere surface.

Fuzzy
 
I'm sorry, but I just have to laugh. There is are several good reasons why Dr. Phil retired his license. It was due to the contents featured on his show. Dr. Phil is notorious for giving bad advices. For instance, he once called a child a serial-killer-in-the-making on national television, they went as far to pair a picture of Jeffrey Dahmer with the boy. This was a couple years before he retired his license.

He was threatened with lawsuits for breaching the professional ethics of his profession. That's why he now assign people to licensed psychologists and therapists rather than himself. He is no longer qualified to practice it because he's a loose cannon. They have to put disclaimers on his show to tell people that he is not practicing his profession and that it is only for entertainment to prevent malpractice lawsuits.

I have seen his show often enough to see that he shouldn't be on TV.
 
Banjo said:
I'm sorry, but I just have to laugh. There is are several good reasons why Dr. Phil retired his license. It was due to the contents featured on his show. Dr. Phil is notorious for giving bad advices. For instance, he once called a child a serial-killer-in-the-making on national television, they went as far to pair a picture of Jeffrey Dahmer with the boy. This was a couple years before he retired his license.

He was threatened with lawsuits for breaching the professional ethics of his profession. That's why he now assign people to licensed psychologists and therapists rather than himself. He is no longer qualified to practice it because he's a loose cannon. They have to put disclaimers on his show to tell people that he is not practicing his profession and that it is only for entertainment to prevent malpractice lawsuits.

I have seen his show often enough to see that he shouldn't be on TV.
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I've never watched his show nor would I care to watch it.
 
Banjo said:
I'm sorry, but I just have to laugh. There is are several good reasons why Dr. Phil retired his license. It was due to the contents featured on his show. Dr. Phil is notorious for giving bad advices. For instance, he once called a child a serial-killer-in-the-making on national television, they went as far to pair a picture of Jeffrey Dahmer with the boy. This was a couple years before he retired his license.

He was threatened with lawsuits for breaching the professional ethics of his profession. That's why he now assign people to licensed psychologists and therapists rather than himself. He is no longer qualified to practice it because he's a loose cannon. They have to put disclaimers on his show to tell people that he is not practicing his profession and that it is only for entertainment to prevent malpractice lawsuits.

I have seen his show often enough to see that he shouldn't be on TV.
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With antics like this, he doesn't deserve to have a license.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Yeah, but please, licence renewal is but an administrative formality.

It doesn't negate in any way years of education one received prior to acquiring
the licence, or the years of experience while working in the field.

usually, it's just the financial formality - you simply have to pay to renew your licence time after time.


For example, let's say you are an autobody mechanic who at one point
after 20 years of working as one
decided to retire his licence - does that mean all of a sudden you've stopped being an experienced mechanic??

Fuzzy
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You are incorrect. License renewal requires a documented amount of continuing education every year. Don't complete continuing education, your license is suspended, and you cannot renew.

Are you actually comparing a doctor of clinical psychology respsonsiible for the mental and emotional well being of clients to someone who repairs dents in a car?
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Like it or not, Jiro,

the shows like Dr Phil or Dr Drew or Intervention does create certain awareness
of what the discussed problem is.

Granted, since this is a show directed at average, general public it can not be overly scientific or the majority of viewers would not get
a half of gist of it.
It also has to be presented in such a package that is easy to understand to the average viewer.

To be interesting, it also has to be somewhat sensational.
Do tell me how do you yourself like boring, tedious technical study hall lectures, ah??

You need to engage the public if you want to teach it something.

Bottom line is, these show do pass quite a chunk of knowledge that otherwise wouldn't be
ever absorbed.

Fuzzy
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All a show like intervention does is show addicts how to perfect and continue their addictive behaviors. Nine tenths of the program shows addicts engaging in self destructive behaviors.

I never had a single study hall lecture. Study hall is free time to study the topic of your choice independently, in junior high and high school. Lecture is formal transmission of information from professor to students. Generally in college.
 
jillio said:
You are incorrect. License renewal requires a documented amount of continuing education every year. Don't complete continuing education, your license is suspended, and you cannot renew.

Are you actually comparing a doctor of clinical psychology respsonsiible for the mental and emotional well being of clients to someone who repairs dents in a car?
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And in Dr. Phil's case, would he be required to sit for the licensing exam again because it has been so long since his license was active?

I'm betting this is not an easy exam to pass with a small percentage actually passing on the first attempt, yes?
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Suppose it is your son we are talking about ....


Fuzzy
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I would say the same thing. If he is in the throes of an addiction, I would allow him to suffer the consequences that would make him willing to accept treatment. It is called loving him enough to let him bust his ass. Preventing him from suffering only serves to make me (or any parent) feel better. It does nothing to increase his chances of recovery from a fatal disease.
 
Dixie said:
And in Dr. Phil's case, would he be required to sit for the licensing exam again because it has been so long since his license was active?

I'm betting this is not an easy exam to pass with a small percentage actually passing on the first attempt, yes?
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I'm not certain about Tx law, but in many states, yes. But, a Tx license would allow him only to practice in Tx or states that have reciprocity.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
No, I know, This is true,
but all the same, just because someone hanged his licence to retire
doesn't suddenly void his entire life work experience, college degrees including.

Dr Phil or Dr Drew may not practice their profession on TV per se,
they may simply create programs that focus public awareness on certain subjects like addiction, marriages issues, parental issues etc
and I see nothing wrong with that - on the contrary,
thanks to shows like that the public awareness HAVE increased in many these areas,

however if you are paying attention to what they say you would notice that
they usually also say to their participants
"if you are willing/want, we will assign you a licensed psychotherapist in your area".

I am sure Dr Phil until his licence was valid he could have offered his services as well, though, if he wanted to.
but, mostly, he has resources to use other professionals to chose from.

Fuzzy
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Then they are acting as entertainers, and not clinical practitioners. That is the whole point. They are bound by no ethical board nor licensure requirements. That is what makes this so objectionable. People are not protected in any way from the unethical and potentially harmful behavior of people like this.
 
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