Actress Lindsay Lohan is BUSTED!! For violate probation

Jiro said:
Agreed. It is obvious that it does not apply to ALL children with parents with problems just like being a midget does not mean your child will most likely be a midget.

But there was enough statistic to show that children with problem parents are more likely to become an addict or abusive than those with "clean" parents.
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I need to agree with you on this. But then, I don't know that many kids who are savvy enough to become aware of their predisposition towards addiction and, therefore, will be willing to abstain. I know a FEW, but not many.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
And, you'd just be another person contributing to a sick woman's demise. How sad is that?
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That's totally what I was going to say. This is what helped her downfall. All this media hype and all these people egging on the media hype. Eventually we are going to have another Anna Nicole Smith, or Heaven forbid, another Princess Di with the paparazzi chasing her to her death by way of car accident.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I agree with you. The same thing happened to Brittney Spears, Tatum O'Neal, Micheal Jackson, Robert Downey Jr
and many others. Some manage to "get their shit together", some pay the price.

As children, these are exploited to the max by everybody - starting with the parents.
The parents with $$ signs in their eyes, incapable to say NO when is the time to say NO because of the almighty dollar.
They are in denial deluding themselves "we are doing it because our child loves doing it' - just look at the sick "Toddlers and Tiaras' - these parents are psychos! turning their little children looking like tiny sluts and brainwashing them into thinking they actually love "competing"!
Of course the tiny impressionable child's brain will believe anything you tell them to! you keep telling them over and over
they are "professional" and "competitive" they will come to believe it
and even love it, ! duh!

By the same token, the parents of child stars are deluding themselves into thinking they are "helping to fulfill their children dreams".
The problem is, children sometimes dream of piercing their tongue at 10,
and it doesn't necessary mean you as a parent say "yes".

There is time and place for everything. And it starts early. later is too late.

What can be done now?
Probably not very much, since Lindsay is now an adult and nobody can force her into rehab.
But maybe, just maybe, if she was lovingly hounded into some kind of "intervention', maybe it would work,
I dunno. I hope she does get help at one point because this is so sad,
so sad and such waste of young, beauty, and talent..


And you people, who make fun of other peoples descend into heII - it's obvious you've never given it any deeperthought.
Have you ever wondered what it is like to be addicted? do you think
being addicted is just fun? there is no reason to it?
or perhaps is not fun at all? that behind the majority of addiction lies
terrible pain and pavst?

Have u heard of this expression..."money is the root of all evils" its sad what it does to people!
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KristinaB said:
That's totally what I was going to say. This is what helped her downfall. All this media hype and all these people egging on the media hype. Eventually we are going to have another Anna Nicole Smith, or Heaven forbid, another Princess Di with the paparazzi chasing her to her death by way of car accident.
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Most likely Anna Nicole or Amy Whitehouse, but yes, another tragedy in the making for sure.
 
Jiro said:
my point is that it's extraordinary difficult to get an exclusive interview with superstars especially after recovery from their destructive past. You're definitely not going to get one on your show if you're a nobody or some cheapshot host like Jerry Springfield. You'll be most likely somebody credible and reputable. With that kind of weight, are you going to risk everything for some bogus interview for their public stunt?

heck no.... you are going to get what you want from him/her - "Why?" Interviewer controls the questioning and dialogue.... not the other way around. They're not going to let some screwed-up person to ruin their reputation and control their interviews for their mischievous gain. That's why very few interviewers survived in this brutal cutthroat business for so long.... like Barbara Walter and James Lipton. It pretty much takes only one botched-up interview to end your interviewing career.

That's why Chris Wallace never got another exclusive interview deal after botched Bill Clinton interview. Dang.... he got spanked good by Clinton's wagging finger. That was a good one.

oh man... ya gotta see Wallace's face when Clinton wagged his finger and said - "And you've got that little smirk on your face and you think you're so clever. But I had responsibility for trying to protect this country..."
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I have to disagree with you again. The reason you don't find too many people willing to discuss recovery is because they are in the minority in show business. As for inteviewers, not all of them ask the tough questions. MANY of them don't. Then, you have the likes of TMZ, Extra, Entertainment Tonight, et al. The latter of these shows are nothing but televised Enquirer programs. Certainly not real news. It's really sad that people listen to the nonsense on these shows and take it for face value instead of looking up reputable sources.

Jerry Springer is hardly a reputable journalist/interviewer. I think we can agree on that. But, these shows that are on nowadays is really NO better than a Jerry Springer. It's these shows people are listening to and contributing to the cycle. If people didn't watch, it would simply go off the air due to poor ratings and we would go back to seeing reputable news sources like the ones 30 yrs ago or so.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I have to disagree with you again. The reason you don't find too many people willing to discuss recovery is because they are in the minority in show business. As for inteviewers, not all of them ask the tough questions. MANY of them don't. Then, you have the likes of TMZ, Extra, Entertainment Tonight, et al. The latter of these shows are nothing but televised Enquirer programs. Certainly not real news. It's really sad that people listen to the nonsense on these shows and take it for face value instead of looking up reputable sources.

Jerry Springer is hardly a reputable journalist/interviewer. I think we can agree on that. But, these shows that are on nowadays is really NO better than a Jerry Springer. It's these shows people are listening to and contributing to the cycle. If people didn't watch, it would simply go off the air due to poor ratings and we would go back to seeing reputable news sources like the ones 30 yrs ago or so.
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The type of interview I was referring to especially exclusive type is certainly not not something like TMZ or something cheap or quick. I'm talking about some 1-hr special in reputable show like Barbara Walter or 60 Minutes.

I often watch those quality interview shows in the past. They do ask very tough questions. They do their research very thoroughly.

Look at Chris Wallace's exclusive interview with Bill Clinton. He thought he can cheap shot him with some tough questions that would put a shame in Clinton. It backfired and Wallace lost control of his interview. Since then, he never got another exclusive interview. Destroyed and tarnished.
 
I see you Jiro are about the only one who have some deeper insight into the situation.
What is it, if I may ask, personal experiences or like me you've seen some episodes of Intervention, Dr Drew etc, and/or closet backyard amateur psychologist?
having a shrink in family helps, too :)


To those saying "apple doesn't fall..." I have this to say:

yes, genetic may play a role, sure, but not necessarily so.
It's not a given you will receive faulty genes,
but what IS GIVEN, you will learn the behavior because what children learn
from the immediate environment is the behavior - playful behavior, copying behavior, loving behavior, caring behavior, grieving behavior -
-you name it behavior
which they later imitate at all points in their life.

The best idea how important is parental example described dr Susan Forward
in her book "Toxic Parents". I don't recall the exact words as I read that book many years ago, but she said
"if you would leave a newborn in an empty, undecorated room for many years - how would it learn anything?"
It wouldn't anything, because babies learn by an example.
And whatever example you have, you become it.

And this is why many children of alcoholics despite hating their alcoholic parents, often become alcoholics themselves.
They simply never learned ways of copying with stress or celebrating other than by observing their parents drinking.


This is what possibly happened to Lindsay, and certainly what happened to Robert Downey Jr.

Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Sometimes it's the cry for help, don't you know?

celebs do it on a grander scale just because they have means to do it just so.

a mere mortal who nobody know, do it quietly because nobody will flock
to a loser who got drunk umpteenth time and crashed a car or whatnot,
but the celeb will be swarmed by paparazzi right away...

Fuzzy
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They also have the means to get the help they need. She has been given opportunity on top of opportunity to get herself together. She has taken advantage of none of them. Time to pay the piper. Maybe that will get her in the mood for recovery.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I see you Jiro are about the only one who have some deeper insight into the situation.
What is it, if I may ask, personal experiences or like me you've seen some episodes of Intervention, Dr Drew etc, and/or closet backyard amateur psychologist?
having a shrink in family helps, too :)
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Vulcan Buddhism and chess. I'm a deep thinker and I search carefully for credible source.

I see puzzles and I piece them together until it makes sense to me. It's fine if I'm wrong.

I've never seen any of those shrink shows. Dr. Drew.... I've heard of that name. That guy with glasses and most of his patients are celebrities. Beside I think any tv shrink is a quack lol. The only tv person i trust is Judge Judy :lol:
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I have to disagree with you again. The reason you don't find too many people willing to discuss recovery is because they are in the minority in show business. As for inteviewers, not all of them ask the tough questions. MANY of them don't. Then, you have the likes of TMZ, Extra, Entertainment Tonight, et al. The latter of these shows are nothing but televised Enquirer programs. Certainly not real news. It's really sad that people listen to the nonsense on these shows and take it for face value instead of looking up reputable sources.

Jerry Springer is hardly a reputable journalist/interviewer. I think we can agree on that. But, these shows that are on nowadays is really NO better than a Jerry Springer. It's these shows people are listening to and contributing to the cycle. If people didn't watch, it would simply go off the air due to poor ratings and we would go back to seeing reputable news sources like the ones 30 yrs ago or so.
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I can't stand Jerry Springer or any shows like the Jerry Springer show. I fail to see how people can watch such shows.
 
Jiro said:
Vulcan Buddhism and chess. I'm a deep thinker and I search carefully for credible source.

I see puzzles and I piece them together until it makes sense to me. It's fine if I'm wrong.

I've never seen any of those shrink shows. Dr. Drew.... I've heard of that name. That guy with glasses and most of his patients are celebrities. Beside I think any tv shrink is a quack lol. The only tv person i trust is Judge Judy :lol:
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You are absolutely correct. TV "shrinks" are not clinical practitioners. What they do cannot be considered therapy. It is entertainment. While genetics and environment act together in the manifestation of any mental disorder or problem of adjustment, it is not written in stone that this must be the fate of the individual. Buying into that fatalist notion simply provides people with an excuse to continue with behaviors that are not working.
 
jillio said:
You are absolutely correct. TV "shrinks" are not clinical practitioners. What they do cannot be considered therapy. It is entertainment.
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Like Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew. I cannot stand either one.
 
Banjo said:
Like Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew. I cannot stand either one.
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Nor me. And to think that some people watch them and actually believe that this is what the practice of psychotherapy is. It's disgusting.
 
jillio said:
Nor me. And to think that some people watch them and actually believe that this is what the practice of psychotherapy is. It's disgusting.
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I hate how they exploit the people on their TV shows. For instance, he exploited Britney Spears when she had her meltdown.
 
Banjo said:
I hate how they exploit the people on their TV shows. For instance, he exploited Britney Spears when she had her meltdown.
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Agreed. It is all about exploitation, which is totally contrary to the ethics of a clinician.
 
Banjo said:
I hate how they exploit the people on their TV shows. For instance, he exploited Britney Spears when she had her meltdown.
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Exploitation of people is why I can not stand Jerry Springer or any other shows like it.
 
Lindsay Lohan to pose for Playboy
Lindsay Lohan to pose for Playboy - Celebrity Circuit - CBS News

Lindsay Lohan has signed on for her latest role - an appearance in Playboy.

Lohan's mother, Dina, told X17 Online that "the photo shoot went well."

According to TMZ, the actress will be paid close to $1 million to pose nude for the men's magazine.

Earlier, Lohan's rep, Steve Honig, told E! News, "I can neither confirm nor deny at this time."

A rep for Playboy added, "We don't comment on rumors about who may or may not be posing for the magazine...if anything changes I'll be sure to let you know."

The actress, 25, is currently completing court-ordered community service hours at the Los Angeles County Morgue. A judge who revoked Lohan's probation last week told her to complete at least 16 hours of community service at the morgue before she returns for a court hearing on Nov. 2.
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oh my gosh! I dont think she will pose nude at playboy if playboy founder will think!
 
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