Acoustic Characteristics of the Speech of Young Cochlear Implant Users

shel90 said:
Many Deaf people in the Deaf community support the use of both. Heck, I have many Deaf friends who grew up going to Deaf schools with ASL as their first language who also have developed good oral skills and they use them when needed. I dont see anyone attacking them. Maybe there are a few who are extreme ASLers but they dont represent the whole Deaf community.

Why didnt your mom expose you to ASL and the Deaf community? My mom thought it would slow down my development so she didnt expose me to either one of them. Pretty pathetic, huh but I dont blame her cuz she was brainwashed by those oralists.
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We lived in a small community very rural Georgia. One high school, one middle and one elementary. It was so small, Vocational Rehab had a long drive to come to school to assist me. My mom was not brainwashed by oralist, she did not have any input Deaf or oral. Doctors said to just give up on me. I was not going to be able to anything with me because of the heart damage and hearing loss. She stopped listening to all of them and raised me the best she could. I had great teachers in Middle and high school. I was the school mascot and graduated with honors. I never heard the word deaf until I went off to college. By then I was functioning with HAs and working for my degree. Then my hearing ran out fast.
 
Cheri said:
:werd:

Do you remember way back when Cloggy created a thread which the title would go as "When expecting a child, would you want it to be deaf?" I found that thread to be the most offensive thread in the history of cochlear implant sub-forum.

Of course I'm not holding it against Cloggy. But, just to prove my point. :)
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:eek3: WTF?!!! U serious, he created such a thread????!!!!! I would find it very offensive and I would hold it against him cuz that would show that he has discriminating views against us deaf people. :eek3: Pardon my language but that is such bullshit and to post something like that here on AllDeaf.
 
shel90 said:
:eek3: WTF?!!! U serious, he created such a thread????!!!!! I would find it very offensive and I would hold it against him cuz that would show that he has discriminating views against us deaf people. :eek3: Pardon my language but that is such bullshit and to post something like that here on AllDeaf.
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Exactly. Where is the respect for the deaf/Deaf members? Why would you even post such a thing in a forum called ALLDEAF? Insulting, and degrading.
 
jillio said:
By stopping with the name calling and the attributing of comments that were never made. If you disagree with a post, then disagree with the post, and support the reasons why you disagree without making personal attacks on the poster. Learn the difference between disagreement with a statement and attempting to besmirk anothers character by making personal attacks.
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You told me to clean up my act, I asked how. It is not a disagreement or even a debate here. I feel attacked.
 
vallee said:
We lived in a small community very rural Georgia. One high school, one middle and one elementary. It was so small, Vocational Rehab had a long drive to come to school to assist me. My mom was not brainwashed by oralist, she did not have any input Deaf or oral. Doctors said to just give up on me. I was not going to be able to anything with me because of the heart damage and hearing loss. She stopped listening to all of them and raised me the best she could. I had great teachers in Middle and high school. I was the school mascot and graduated with honors. I never heard the word deaf until I went off to college. By then I was functioning with HAs and working for my degree. Then my hearing ran out fast.
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There u go..doctors telling your mom to give up on u. That is what I am talking about..that kind of attitide is what parents are faced with by those doctors,audis, or oralists.
 
jillio said:
Well, jackie, rick, and vallee, you've managed to take another discussion that was going along in a productive way and turn it into a personal attack on me. Thanks for showing your true colors to all of AD. None of you have managed to answer the questions posed to you. All you can do is attempt to defelct the attention away from the fact that you cannot answer the questions without being caught in a contradiction by making personal attacks.

Oh, and if you think that I am not aware that you pm each other so that you can all 3 try to gang up on anyone who disagrees with you, you are sadly mistaken. You are not nearly as sneaky as you would like to be.
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Classic textbook case of paranoia and delusion!

First off, please explain how you know that one, we even pm each other and two, the subject matter of our posts?

Better yet, let our moderators explain how you would think that we pm each other and the subject matter of those posts.

Honey, we have far better things to do with our time then "plot" against you, JT from L.
 
shel90 said:
There u go..doctors telling your mom to give up on u. That is what I am talking about..that kind of attitide is what parents are faced with by those doctors,audis, or oralists.
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I just got off the phone with her and asked her about if she tried to get help for me in the Deaf community. She said that before we moved to rural GA we lived in upstate New York. She said she did seek out the help and they told her I was not deaf enough. So I guess everyone turned their back on my mom and I.
 
rick48 said:
Classic textbook case of paranoia and delusion!

First off, please explain how you know that one, we even pm each other and two, the subject matter of our posts?

Better yet, let our moderators explain how you would think that we pm each other and the subject matter of those posts.

Honey, we have far better things to do with our time then "plot" against you, JT from L.
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amen
 
rick48 said:
Classic textbook case of paranoia and delusion!

First off, please explain how you know that one, we even pm each other and two, the subject matter of our posts?

Better yet, let our moderators explain how you would think that we pm each other and the subject matter of those posts.

Honey, we have far better things to do with our time then "plot" against you, JT from L.
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Post your credentials regarding your ability to make a psychiatric diagnosis.

I'll be glad to explain it to the moderators. And then, you can explain your personal attacks to the moderators, as well as your unfounded accusations.
 
vallee said:
I just got off the phone with her and asked her about if she tried to get help for me in the Deaf community. She said that before we moved to rural GA we lived in upstate New York. She said she did seek out the help and they told her I was not deaf enough. So I guess everyone turned their back on my mom and I.
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Oh, puhleeze!
 
jillio said:
Post your credentials regarding your ability to make a psychiatric diagnosis.

I'll be glad to explain it to the moderators. And then, you can explain your personal attacks to the moderators, as well as your unfounded accusations.
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Credentials not needed when stating the obvious.

Honey, go run to the moderators all you want, I am so shaking in my boots.

Get a grip, get a life and good night.
 
vallee said:
I just got off the phone with her and asked her about if she tried to get help for me in the Deaf community. She said that before we moved to rural GA we lived in upstate New York. She said she did seek out the help and they told her I was not deaf enough. So I guess everyone turned their back on my mom and I.
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Who did she speak to? Deaf people themselves or the administrators of Deaf schools? Remember, this was at least 20 plus years ago. If it was the adminstrators of the Deaf schools, then they must have been following a critera of dB losses to accept students. 20 plus years ago, most of the administrators of Deaf schools were hearing. However, if they were just Deaf people who werent involved with Deaf education who said that, then unfortunately your mom encountered the wrong people. Remember, I have only been involved in the Deaf community for 10 years so I dont know how it was 20 plus years ago on the views on Hoh kids. I was referring to currently. Like I said, yes there still are some extreme ASLers but I dont associate with them nor agree with them.


Also, you said everyone so if your mom went to a few people for help and they didnt help her out, why are u blaming the whole Deaf community? I was rejected by the Deaf community at first when I started learning ASL but I didnt give up cuz I knew that there had to be smarter and more open minded people in the Deaf community and sure enough, I found them. The hearing community has the same exact close-minded people in it too. U just cannot blame a whole community.
 
shel90 said:
Who did she speak to? Deaf people themselves or the administrators of Deaf schools? Remember, this was at least 20 plus years ago. If it was the adminstrators of the Deaf schools, then they must have been following a critera of dB losses to accept students. 20 plus years ago, most of the administrators of Deaf schools were hearing. However, if they were just Deaf people who werent involved with Deaf education who said that, then unfortunately your mom encountered the wrong people. Remember, I have only been involved in the Deaf community for 10 years so I dont know how it was 20 plus years ago on the views on Hoh kids. I was referring to currently. Like I said, yes there still are some extreme ASLers but I dont associate with them nor agree with them.
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It was 35 years ago. I can see what you are saying, but how do you think my mother felt? She is running me from doctor to audie or center and no one would help me. I do remember going to doctors all the time for hearing test. We moved a few times in order to find the best schools, but again no help. I did get speech for a year, that's it. Until Voc Reh helped me my senior year of high school and some of college.
 
rick48 said:
Credentials not needed when stating the obvious.

Honey, go run to the moderators all you want, I am so shaking in my boots.

Get a grip, get a life and good night.
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But credentials are necessary when making a diagnosis, which is what you have essentially done. As quite obviously, you once again cannot substantiate anything you have been asked to substantiate.

I'm not the one that mentioned the mods....you are.
 
vallee said:
So now you question my mother or the fact that I can use a phone with my CIs? My mother has not reason to lie to me.
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Did you see a question? I didn't. Once again, vallee, stick to what was said and stop creating posts that do not exist. BTW, got those credentials ready?
 
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