Acoustic Characteristics of the Speech of Young Cochlear Implant Users

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orginally posted by Kaitin So now I look at deaf residential schools and ASL.........

Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education 8:1 2003: Survey of Residential and Day Schools for Deaf Students in the United States That Identify Themselves as Bilingual-Bicultural Programs

The purpose of this survey was to determine how many residential and day schools for deaf and hard-of-hearing students in the United States described themselves as bilingual-bicultural (BiBi) programs and to describe characteristics of those programs related to initial implementation, whether a single language (e.g., English or ASL) is promoted as the first language (L1) and the language of instruction for all deaf students, how English is conveyed conversationally to deaf students, the quality of ASL abilities of BiBi instructional and support staff; general characteristics of the curriculum and the specific reading and bicultural components of the curriculum; and characteristics of research being conducted to establish the efficacy of BiBi methods. Ninety-one percent (n = 71) of the 78 day and residential schools listed in the 1998 Directory of the American Annals of the Deaf participated in the survey, with 19 schools identifying themselves as BiBi. These included 16 residential schools and 3 day schools. Depending on the source for numbers of students in residential and day schools at the time of the survey, between 36% and 40% of students were in programs that identified themselves as BiBi. Sixteen of the programs reported becoming a BiBi program between 1989 and 1994 and only three after 1994. Of the 19 programs, 37% reported use of manually coded English (MCE) for conveying English to the students. Fluency in ASL of instructional and support staff varied, with 47% of the programs reporting that no more than half of the instructional staff were fluent in ASL and 68% of the programs reporting that no more than half of the support staff were fluent. Only 21% of the 19 programs reported having a formal BiBi curriculum with annual goals and suggested materials and procedures for teachers. Research implications of these data are discussed.
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Originally Posted by loml
Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education 8:1 2003: Survey of Residential and Day Schools for Deaf Students in the United States That Identify Themselves as Bilingual-Bicultural Programs
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Jillio:
This is rather outdated. There has been more recent research done and publixhed in this journal regarding bi-bi education for deaf children. Likewise, there has been additional research done regarding bi-bi environments as pertaining to CI implanted chidlren. The excerpt yo have posted is old news, and has been stated previously in many different threads.

And basically, as this was a survey, it is viewed not as definitive research providing definitive answers, but simply as a foundation for further academic research. Your own excerpt cites such
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jillio said:
Despite the reams of research available that supports the postion of bilingualism in deaf children, as well as the supported benefits regarding speech, literacy, and cognitive development in early ASL exposure, there are those that continue to claim that ASL exposure interferes with the development of speech skills, and that oral deaf have an advantage educationally over signers. Headway was being made into dispelling these myths......then along came the CI, and these old, tired myths were renewed. Now the studies are indicating the same results for children implanted with CIs and the battle has begun all over again. Quite obviously, for those types, the motivation is not what is best for the deaf child, but what is best for the hearing adult.
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Interesting history, Jillio. :ty:
 
jillio said:
And Kaitlin also cited other articles to support her position.
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Today, we took my students to a field trip far away. My 3rd graders read the mapquest directions and I relied on them giving me directions to the destination. We got there without getting lost! I was so proud of my students! I dont remember having those kind of skills at 8 years old!!!
 
shel90 said:
Today, we took my students to a field trip far away. My 3rd graders read the mapquest directions and I relied on them giving me directions to the destination. We got there without getting lost! I was so proud of my students! I dont remember having those kind of skills at 8 years old!!!
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That's terrific. I was always impressed with my son's skills in directions. I could drive somewhere once with him in the car, and he could tell me how to get there the second time without any problem. He was about the same age when I started to notice this skill. I always attributed it to his increased visual awareness developed with ASL.
 
jillio said:
That's terrific. I was always impressed with my son's skills in directions. I could drive somewhere once with him in the car, and he could tell me how to get there the second time without any problem. He was about the same age when I started to notice this skill. I always attributed it to his increased visual awareness developed with ASL.
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Maybe that is the difference between oral and signing deaf students. My son by the age of 4 would tell me when I was driving that I was going the wrong way. He would tell me no mom left now, right now, go 5 minutes.
 
Jillo
You have mention many times how I always bring it back to my children. The thing is you are partly right, I do have over 15 years of experience raising oral deaf children. But on top of that I have been teaching oral deaf children for over 8 years. I have taken numerous courses on cochlear implants, auditory verbal therapy, auditory training, and many other courses related to the education of oral deaf children. When I post things, I am not just talking about my children, but also the education and experience I have and about my current and past students. Just in case you forgot I have BS in child development, MS education done through John Tracy Clnic, level I education specialist credential in mild/moderate, and a level II in education specialist in deaf/hard of hearing. And if everything goes according to my plan I will be a certified auditory verbal therapist this summer.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Maybe that is the difference between oral and signing deaf students. My son by the age of 4 would tell me when I was driving that I was going the wrong way. He would tell me no mom left now, right now, go 5 minutes.
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At the age of four, he knew concepts of time without even looking at a clock to tell you you needed to drive for 5 minutes? Could he adjust the time based on the amount of traffic and speed being traveled as well?:giggle:
 
loml said:
Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education 8:1 2003: Survey of Residential and Day Schools for Deaf Students in the United States That Identify Themselves as Bilingual-Bicultural Programs
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Hi, Loml:

Would you please explain your points with the quote in your last post? I don't understand them, sorry. I thought the quote said 1) "our research did ___" and 2) "more research needed on _______" and 3) some notes. Am I wrong? I mean a sincere question. I am sure you make a point but I don't know it.

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jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo
You have mention many times how I always bring it back to my children. The thing is you are partly right, I do have over 15 years of experience raising oral deaf children. But on top of that I have been teaching oral deaf children for over 8 years. I have taken numerous courses on cochlear implants, auditory verbal therapy, auditory training, and many other courses related to the education of oral deaf children. When I post things, I am not just talking about my children, but also the education and experience I have and about my current and past students. Just in case you forgot I have BS in child development, MS education done through John Tracy Clnic, level I education specialist credential in mild/moderate, and a level II in education specialist in deaf/hard of hearing. And if everything goes according to my plan I will be a certified auditory verbal therapist this summer.
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Am I supposed to be impressed? Everything you have cited is orally based or an attempt to make a deaf child hearing without consideration for the visual needs a deaf child has.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo
You have mention many times how I always bring it back to my children. The thing is you are partly right, I do have over 15 years of experience raising oral deaf children. But on top of that I have been teaching oral deaf children for over 8 years. I have taken numerous courses on cochlear implants, auditory verbal therapy, auditory training, and many other courses related to the education of oral deaf children. When I post things, I am not just talking about my children, but also the education and experience I have and about my current and past students. Just in case you forgot I have BS in child development, MS education done through John Tracy Clnic, level I education specialist credential in mild/moderate, and a level II in education specialist in deaf/hard of hearing. And if everything goes according to my plan I will be a certified auditory verbal therapist this summer.
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Jackie,

You do not need to either justify yourself or background to anyone. You have a wealth of experience both personal and professional and a willingness to share it with others and above all a sense of caring about others.

See you on the "other side"
Rick
 
rick48 said:
Jackie,

You do not need to either justify yourself or background to anyone. You have a wealth of experience both personal and professional and a willingness to share it with others and above all a sense of caring about others.

See you on the "other side"
Rick
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Evidently, she felt the need to justify herself. Doesn't matter.....still an oralist.
 
jillio said:
At the age of four, he knew concepts of time without even looking at a clock to tell you you needed to drive for 5 minutes? Could he adjust the time based on the amount of traffic and speed being traveled as well?:giggle:
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That is just a horrible comment!
 
rick48 said:
Jackie,

You do not need to either justify yourself or background to anyone. You have a wealth of experience both personal and professional and a willingness to share it with others and above all a sense of caring about others.

See you on the "other side"
Rick
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I agree with you, Rick.
 
jillio said:
Evidently, she felt the need to justify herself. Doesn't matter.....still an oralist.
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o·ral·ist /ˈɔrəlɪst, ˈoʊr-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[awr-uh-list, ohr-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an advocate of oralism.
2. a deaf person who communicates through lipreading and speech.
–adjective 3. of or pertaining to oralism.

That is not a bad thing.
 
jillio said:
Evidently, she felt the need to justify herself. Doesn't matter.....still an oralist.
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Jillo, I was not trying to justify myself. You have said it so many times that it is not about my children. And so the only reason I posted my background so that you and other people know that I am not just talking about the experiences of my own children but also my education and professional experience. Yes, you are right I am oralist more then likily will always be an oralist. Althought I am oralist, I am not type of oralist that thinks my way is the only way, I believe in parents making informed decision with the latest information in all areas.
 
jillio said:
Evidently, she felt the need to justify herself. Doesn't matter.....still an oralist.
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I think we all know that you mean the term "oralist" as a derrogatory label but the reality is that if that is all you can say about Jackie and her background both personally and professionally then in reality it says much more about you then it ever will about Jackie.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Jillo, I was not trying to justify myself. You have said it so many times that it is not about my children. And so the only reason I posted my background so that you and other people know that I am not just talking about the experiences of my own children but also my education and professional experience. Yes, you are right I am oralist more then likily will always be an oralist. Althought I am oralist, I am not type of oralist that thinks my way is the only way, I believe in parents making informed decision with the latest information in all areas.
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+100


w2g Jackie!
 
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