9/11 - what happened?

What brought down the three towers?

  • Damage caused directly (for 1 & 2) and indirectly (for 7) by the impact of the plane

    Votes: 44 74.6%
  • Controlled demolition

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
Do you realise that before 911 not one building build like the WTC has collapsed due to fire?
How many buildings similar to the WTC had jetliners deliberately flown into them at full speed? None. You can't compare apples with oranges.


The owner of the building says in an interview that they decided to "pull it" a term used in demolition to destroy a building on it's own footprint by using explosived.
Demolition experts said that they don't use the term "pull it". Fire fighters use the term when they "pull" all the firefighters from a building and let it burn itself down because they can't put it out.


Do a little test. Create a building from stone and wood, and then make it collapse.
That's a "little" test? Sorry, I don't have enough stone and wood lying around to do that test.

Was WTC7 built of stone and wood? That's news to me. I thought it was steel framed.
 
I knew all about WTC 7 collapsing on the day of the attacks. I recall that it was caused by several debris coming from WTC 1 and 2.
Right. It wasn't a "secret". It was on all the news.
 
...Look at footage... the building(WTC-7) is hardly damaged. There are fires on only 2 floors....
You can't judge the severity of a fire from news video. I've seen buildings that were totally destroyed inside but from the outside looked like nothing happened.
 
Think about it, If WTC-7 was not hit by a plane, nor wasn't damaged by fire because there was no fire in that building.
WTC7 was damaged by fire. Even Cloggy admits the building was on fire. (He doesn't agree to the severity of the fire but he does admit the building was burning before it came down.)

What does that tell you? It tells me that all this been planned out by the USA Government. I believe that they planted an explosives after the planes went in two towers, North and South.
Please give me a logical reason for that. How would demolishing WTC7 benefit the US government?
 
Simple answer:

Government use this situation as an excuse to blame Iraq as responsible for 9-11 and get his people to support for war to attack Iraq for that.
If that was a true theory, why would it be important to demolish WTC7? Wouldn't the destruction of the Twin Towers and Pentagon be enough motivation to go to war? How would adding a smaller WTC building to the pile be responsible for stirring people to war? As we can see from this thread, many people weren't even aware that WTC7 ever existed, much less was destroyed. Everyone mournes the loss of the Twin Towers but you never hear any outrage over WTC7.
 
...Showing lists of casualties is a way to distract the attention away from questions that need to be answered.
The people on board that plane were not just a "distraction". They were precious lives that were lost. They can't be ignored or forgotten. They were real, and they witnessed their plane dive into the Pentagon.
 
How many buildings similar to the WTC had jetliners deliberately flown into them at full speed? None. You can't compare apples with oranges.
The towers were still standing AFTER the planes hit.
That's a "little" test? Sorry, I don't have enough stone and wood lying around to do that test.
Was WTC7 built of stone and wood? That's news to me. I thought it was steel framed.
You really don't get it... Do a test and see how a structure falls. Try to make a structure - no matter how tall - fall ON ITS FOOTPRINT. Use Lego... be creative.... Watch a movie!
You can't judge the severity of a fire from news video. I've seen buildings that were totally destroyed inside but from the outside looked like nothing happened.
And they remained standing.. right?
The people on board that plane were not just a "distraction". They were precious lives that were lost. They can't be ignored or forgotten. They were real, and they witnessed their plane dive into the Pentagon.
You are ignoring them, because you just swollow the official version without listning to reason. You still haven't answered how a 757 got into that hole without leaving its wings, tail and 2 engines outside!!
 
The towers were still standing AFTER the planes hit.
Not for long.

What's your point?


You really don't get it... Do a test and see how a structure falls. Try to make a structure - no matter how tall - fall ON ITS FOOTPRINT. Use Lego... be creative.... Watch a movie!And they remained standing.. right?
Why should I do a test? The engineers have done that. Besides, how can a test with Legos compare with jets hitting the Twin Towers? That's absurd, and certainly not scientific. Watch a movie? You're kidding, right? What can a movie prove?

Maybe I should do like you, and Google conspiracy websites.


You are ignoring them, because you just swollow the official version without listning to reason.
If you want to believe that, go ahead. You would be wrong but that's your right.


You still haven't answered how a 757 got into that hole without leaving its wings, tail and 2 engines outside!!
I've posted my reply links several times, in several threads. If you aren't reading them, that's not my responsibility.
 
Not for long.

What's your point?
After the planes hit the towers were standing. The fuel burned up in the first minutes. The rest of the fires were low temperature (black smoke)
Steel didn't melt. It hardly weakened.

Had it collapsed due to the planes, it would NOT have collapsed down, but to the side.
Had it pancaked (official story) then the centre steel columns would still have been there AND there would have been a 110 floors x 4' thich floor = 440 feet high pile of floors.......

What is wrong - according to you - in this description??
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.............I've posted my reply links several times, in several threads. If you aren't reading them, that's not my responsibility....

You replied here: Nothing about wings, tails or 2 engines


Here and here you quote a paper. (Which has it's own reasons for writing as it did, like I showed after your posts.)
It doesn't explain the disappearence of 2 engines, and explains that the wings turned to "liquid".

I still have to hear YOUR explanation.
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Right. It wasn't a "secret". It was on all the news.

You claimed that you know about this but Americans claimed differently.

One reason that few remember WTC Building 7’s collapse is that after September 11th it has been treated, both in the media and in The 9/11 Commission Report, as if it didn’t happen.

“The total collapse of the third huge skyscraper late in the afternoon September 11th was reported as if it were an insignificant footnote... most people never saw video of Building 7’s collapse… Incredibly, it is virtually impossible to find any mention of Building 7 in newspapers, magazines, or broadcast media reports after September 11th.” 2

“The Commission avoids another embarrassing problem – explaining how WTC 7 could have collapsed, also virtually at free-fall speed – by simply not mentioning the collapse of this building.” 3

The collapse of Building 7 at 5:20PM EDT was in itself a major event; the sudden and unexplained fall to earth of a 47-story steel-framed skyscraper is certainly news. Why has there been almost no mention of this in the U.S. media, and why was there no mention of Building 7’s collapse in The 9/11 Commission Report? These are questions of great significance, and they cry out for answers. To be able to approach any kind of explanation, however, first some pertinent and verified facts of the Building 7 aspect of 9/11 need to be scrutinized.

Hidden Facts of 9/11

As I see some Americans's posts here didn't know anything about WTC 7 as well.
 
You claimed that you know about this but Americans claimed differently.



Hidden Facts of 9/11

As I see some Americans's posts here didn't know anything about WTC 7 as well.

Oh please, I saw all about it on TV on the day of the attacks. Maybe these people were not paying enough attention and they may have overlooked this. There were sooooo much going on on the day of the attacks and everyone were in shock.
 
WTC7 was damaged by fire. Even Cloggy admits the building was on fire. (He doesn't agree to the severity of the fire but he does admit the building was burning before it came down.)

WTC7.net the hidden story of Building 7: Videos Show Building 7's Vertical Collapse.

Larry Silverstein, WTC 7, and the 9/11 Demolition

ImplosionWorld.com Demolition Dialog - Wtc7

9/11 Video Downloads: The Controlled Collapse of WTC 7

WTC 7 Smoke And Mirrors On 9/11

Demolition of the World Trade Center

The World Trade Center Demolition and the So-Called War on Terrorism

Indymedia Milwaukee | Bush Defector to Demolish 9/11 Big Lie in Madison

FreeSpeech.com

WTC 7 collapsed 7 hours later after twin towers... ?

Please give me a logical reason for that. How would demolishing WTC7 benefit the US government?

political purposes.

I wish to beleive that it's Bin Laden who did this. I also wish you prove me wrong with links. I tried to beleive it's Bin Laden or Saddam when I investigated this issues and find impossible... Unfortunlately... :(


 
If that was a true theory, why would it be important to demolish WTC7?

Like what I said in my previous post... political purposes

Wouldn't the destruction of the Twin Towers and Pentagon be enough motivation to go to war? How would adding a smaller WTC building to the pile be responsible for stirring people to war?

The answer from links, we provided in our previous posts is enough. Go and read them.

As we can see from this thread, many people weren't even aware that WTC7 ever existed, much less was destroyed. Everyone mournes the loss of the Twin Towers but you never hear any outrage over WTC7.

Yes, I aware after saw this thread here and surprised because other countries in the world know about this. We know what and how it come from...

I found this interesting link
WTC7 & Silverstein

List of sources in link, you can click if you want to know more... from Homes to What's New?
911Myths
 
Oh please, I saw all about it on TV on the day of the attacks. Maybe these people were not paying enough attention and they may have overlooked this. There were sooooo much going on on the day of the attacks and everyone were in shock.
That's OK. Ask around, and note the answers.....
BTW.. why wasn't it mentioned inthe 911-commision report?
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Oh please, I saw all about it on TV on the day of the attacks. Maybe these people were not paying enough attention and they may have overlooked this. There were sooooo much going on on the day of the attacks and everyone were in shock.

Sure, you saw it on TV but why no mention in the U.S. media or The 9/11 Commission Report?
 

Yes I aware that the information of "israelis" absences are false. At begin, we beleive that israeli were being warned to leave WTC because they are Israelis as Bin Laden or Saddam... It took us while to realize that it's false because Israelis who work at the towers are also killed as well... We have no idea who spread false information about "israelis" because it's not but just people like us no matter which race, they have. Just people who are absence few days before this happened.

I would suggest you to visit 911Myths then you will know more.
 
Dollars spend per casualty...

Looking at some numbers...

When a disaster happens, a comittee is formed with funds to investigate.... (info from here.. 911, Challenger, Whitewater - 911 - TWA-800 ) (Days for forming comittee are estimated..)

Challenger, <10 days, funds: 30-50 million, per casualty: 30.000.000/7 -> $4.000.000
Clinton Whitewater ? days, 60 million, per person: $60.000.000
TWA-800 , <10 days, funds: 27 million, per casualty: $1.200.000

911, 341 days, 3 million increased to 15 million, Per casualty: $5000
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