9/11 - what happened?

What brought down the three towers?

  • Damage caused directly (for 1 & 2) and indirectly (for 7) by the impact of the plane

    Votes: 44 74.6%

  • Controlled demolition

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
SmileyGin said:
if it was control demolition.. what purpose the government want in this and why would they do that and get away with over 3 thousand people dead? what reason??? i hope they come up with good explantions on this!
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Simple answer:

Government use this situation as an excuse to blame Iraq as responsible for 9-11 and get his people to support for war to attack Iraq for that. Really truth is: 9-11 is not reason, why the government send their soliders to Iraq especially oil.

Bush KNEW Iraq is not responsible for 9-11 BEFORE Saddam was arrest.

The government claimed that it's Bin Laden and then Saddam sound pretty illogical to me. Now you know that Iraq is not responsible for 9-11 after Saddam arrest but why soliders are still in Iraq after Saddam's arrest then? OF COURSE oil!!! You know that Bin Laden denied his responsible for 9-11. How could you prove that it's really Bin Laden who did 9-11? They caught Saddam, and then over... why can't they go after Bin Laden then?

People have to die for that oil which a sad...

Secret US plans for Iraq's oil
BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Secret US plans for Iraq's oil

This links in google explain better...
BUSH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 9-11- ATTACK IRAQ FOR OIL - Google-Suche

LIESofBUSH.com
Is George W. Bush responsible for 9-11?
 
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Cheri said:
And you buy that? I don't. They weren't that desperately in finding Bin Laden, but they were desperate in finding Saddam. Bin Laden was the bigger threat, and should have search harder for him.
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Yes I has to agree with you on this. It took soliders years to arrest Saddam.. Why can't they do the same to Bin Laden as well?
 
We Europeans know it´s Bush who is the responsible for that action, he cause his people to death.

Why approx. 5,000 employees were on one to few days vacation before 9/11? 5,000? it´s too much - it seem that they are being warn to leave before the happened comes...???

After 11/9 attack, they found some bomb under car park. Who did it when it's not Iraq or Afghanistan´s bomb?

All what I wish is search for Bin Laden, not war. It´s unfair to kill each other over that Bin Laden when we have no proof either it´s really him or not. What if it´s not him? People killed for nothing... It´s unfair.

I find odd that people got Clinton to make his impeachment about his scandal affair with Monica and then tried to get him out of office... Why can't they do the same with Bush as well for war criminal after learn from scandal that Iraq is not responsible for 9-11? This situtation what Bush made is MAINLY WORST than Clinton's affair with Monica.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I has to agree with you on this. It took soliders years to arrest Saddam.. Why can't they do the same to Bin Laden as well?
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Well, not every criminals or terrorists are easy to find. Even FBI have some wanted people on their list who haven't yet been found for years and years. Saddam may have been easier to be found while Bin Laden is more difficult to be found.
 
Cheri said:
After the light on Cloggy's posts, I gotta slide with him, It all makes sense now, We've been lied to,

Think about it, If WTC-7 was not hit by a plane, nor wasn't damaged by fire because there was no fire in that building. What does that tell you? It tells me that all this been planned out by the USA Government. I believe that they planted an explosives after the planes went in two towers, North and South.

If they really did that, They're freggin murders that's for sure!

The more I think about it, the more it starting to come to me -- how Bush was so desperate in getting Saddam and invading Iraq.
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:jaw: IF that is true, then I'm shock and speechless....



Psst my dear Liebling, your signature is too big, it's hard to read your post :(
 
^Angel^ said:
:jaw: IF that is true, then I'm shock and speechless....
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Yeah, WTC-7 was not even close to WTC-1 and WTC-2, After those two towers went down, many hours later WTC-7 went down. Hummm.... What reason did WTC-7 went down? :ugh:

Now it makes me wondered, If WTC-1 and WTC-2 really fell down because of the planes that crashed into the buildings? I'm having second thoughts about what really happened, and I believe there is more behind it all.
 
liebling.. thanks for the links. it will take me a while to read all of it. Wow! too many lies and too many plans were even in plan to get OIL. thats stupid! greedy bush! ugh!
 
I did not vote because we will never know what was really going on whether it was bombed by someone else or airplane hit. I was puzzled by when the towers fell down, how hell those airplanes does it so much damaged. Still not believe those airplane would caused towers goes down. Maybe because of a dream I had once few months before 9/11, saw three men blew those buildings down from the ground.
 
jazzy said:
I did not vote because we will never know what was really going on whether it was bombed by someone else or airplane hit. I was puzzled by when the towers fell down, how hell those airplanes does it so much damaged. Still not believe those airplane would caused towers goes down. Maybe because of a dream I had once few months before 9/11, saw three men blew those buildings down from the ground.
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me either... I don´t beleive that it´s airplanes who cause towers to collapse. It´s pretty illogical because the steels don´t melt. Sure, airplanes crashed to towers and explosive but collapse from that airplane ????? They found something ground of towers garage... it´s bomb... The bomb from ground CAN blew up to top of tower and can make steel collapse but the bomb CAN´T blew down to ground from top of tower. Have you see movies from Cloggy´s one of links? Take real good look on it... I remembered that we have tower at school - they have to take tower off due expensive restoration... They can´t make tower fall down so they put bomb under the ground of tower... It blow up to top of tower and then it collasped down...
 
SmileyGin said:
liebling.. thanks for the links. it will take me a while to read all of it. Wow! too many lies and too many plans were even in plan to get OIL. thats stupid! greedy bush! ugh!
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Welcome ;) - it´s many to read but worth because you deserve to know the truth.
 
i remember the news one day says that airplane fuel has chemical that melts the metal along with the fire. this is all i can think of..
 
Cheri said:
Ok, Well the day of Sept. 11th, After two planes had hit World Trade Center, One plane was on it's way to Washington, DC That's how we knew it was a terrorist attack. The government had stated that we were under attacked, and bin Laden was responsible of the attack, but instead they went after Saddam, and went on with the war in Iraq. It's surprised me that nobody was held accountable for the attack that they knew ahead of time, there was a plan, Why didn't they tight the securities? People lives were cost that day, and bin Laden is walking free like Sept. 11th never occurred. But some American people want to put the blame on Clinton, when it happened under Bush's term. Mostly Bush fail to bring justice for what happened on Sept. 11th, Instead of getting Saddam out, He could have started with bin Laden right from the start, but he did not.

Did he ever asked us if we wanted this war to begin with? It was all about him and family history with Saddam. So, my opinion on the government's explaintion, is full of shit, everything they stated doesn't even make sense, with the war we are having now and from the start.
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After hitting WTC... Plane did hit on Pentagon where my sister worked... she got hurt... 70 % burns and lost right arm.... she survived... but was not easy for my sister... she went beserk every time she heard planes flying over her house... she passed away last year due to Lung Cancer....
 
SxyPorkie said:
After hitting WTC... Plane did hit on Pentagon where my sister worked... she got hurt... 70 % burns and lost right arm.... she survived... but was not easy for my sister... she went beserk every time she heard planes flying over her house... she passed away last year due to Lung Cancer....
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I'm sorry about your sister.
You have to realise, asking questions about how things happened does not mean that your sisters experience did not happen. It did. It is acknowledged by everyone. Something flew into the Pentagon.

The Pentagon... guarded with anti-aircraft missles that would shoot down any plane (without militairy beacon) getting too close. Automatically.
The Pentagon... where there are camera's guarding every part of the building - and still, they release a video of 1 camera with 5 frames.... showing nothing. Why don't they show the other camera footage showing nothing?

For your sister... you might want to see the picture of the 757 crashing into the building as the official version says. They MUST have video footage of that. Camera's everywhere...

Do you really believe that the most secured building in the world would hav only 1 camera looking at the helipad area???

For your sister... and many others that were killed and wounded (and died as a result) are you not entitled to ask questions and demand answers???
 
cloggy is right.. why only one cam was released.... what about the one at hotel, gas station, and other places as well.. why were they kept and not released to public.. but oly one from pentagon?? only one camera? come on.. somethings fishy.. im sorry your sister died.. but if it was me.. i would demand to know the answers to truth what really happened...

i think its small plane that carry 8 to 12 people.. not 757... if it was 757 would be more than 30 feet wide and more DAMAGES.. but only 12 foot? plus where are the wings? where is tail??? none of them are found outside the pentagon?? yeah right.. i want more ANSWERS.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
i remember the news one day says that airplane fuel has chemical that melts the metal along with the fire. this is all i can think of..
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I heared that as well, and 5 years ago I assumed this was so.
Then, watching information on video.Google.com I was SHOWN, not just told, that it will not even come close. Not only that, the fuel reachs temperatures of about 1400ºC but the steel in the fire will most likely reach temperatures of below 1000ºC. This because of insulations and because of dissipation... Steel is a good conductor and will lead heat away to other areas....

Again, 5 years ago I ASSUME it was right.

Now I know that ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME
 
DTC — Anatomy of a Collapse: Lessons of 9/11

Anatomy of a Collapse: Lessons of 9/11


This special looks at how the twin towers were built, survived one major terrorist attack and then came down 7 years later when the second attack occurred. Did the structures fail because of impact or fire? CGI graphics and eye witnesses unravel the event

tv :: pg


it will be shown on Discovery Time Channel if you have satellite. I am going to watch it..
 
Good idea.

Before you watch that, have a look at available video's on google so that you can compare the information given..

Would love to see the documentary, but I guess it will be a while before it's shown here....
 
SmileyGin said:
cloggy is right.. why only one cam was released.... what about the one at hotel, gas station, and other places as well.. why were they kept and not released to public.. but oly one from pentagon?? only one camera? come on.. somethings fishy.. im sorry your sister died.. but if it was me.. i would demand to know the answers to truth what really happened...

i think its small plane that carry 8 to 12 people.. not 757... if it was 757 would be more than 30 feet wide and more DAMAGES.. but only 12 foot? plus where are the wings? where is tail??? none of them are found outside the pentagon?? yeah right.. i want more ANSWERS.
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Look in here and see the names of the 64 people who were killed in AA 77 CNN.com Specials
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Look in here and see the names of the 64 people who were killed in AA 77 CNN.com Specials
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I'm missing the names of the hi-jackers.... coincidence?
But again, the loss of those people is not challenged here. Don't these people need to be honoured with answers?

There is no risk in State Security showing footage or pictures of the plane. If a 757 went in... some camera will have registered it......

What is challenged is that a 757 does not fit in the hole AND that wreckage should be seen.

We all know that people died... but where is a picture or video of a plane?

Showing lists of casualties is a way to distract the attention away from questions that need to be answered.
 
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