Why Cochlear Implants Hurt Deaf Culture?

[Angel]

I'm sure you would get high benefit from a CI ,Angel.. Good luck

I hope so too, Thanks ecevit

 

[jazzy]

I've noticed some deaf people are saying that cochlear implants hurt their deaf culture and I'm curious to know why they feel that way, please remember to keep an open mind on both sides, cause I'm willing to listen to everyone's view/opinions on this topic here...Please let's discuss in a civil manner without putting anyone down, Thanks


Why do some of you feel that cochlear implants hurt the deaf culture?....

Ur kidding. who said? I have many CI friends who are still living in deaf culture more than me. They call me hearing on my forehead even I do not have CI or wearing HA. I do not believe CI has not hurt their deaf culture as I do for one I married a hearing man.

but it is interest thread, thank u for point it out.

 

[Angel]

Ur kidding. who said? I have many CI friends who are still living in deaf culture more than me. They call me hearing on my forehead even I do not have CI or wearing HA. I do not believe CI has not hurt their deaf culture as I do for one I married a hearing man.

but it is interest thread, thank u for point it out.

I said I heard stories on both sides ( deaf and CI users ), I believe you when you said you have many CI friends who still living in both worlds but I didn't even say ALL I said " some "...

I have friends who are CI users, and yet I haven't experiences anything as the others have, but that doesn't mean they're making this up, I would appreciate everyone to look at it from both sides please...


Thank you for sharing your view here, and I'm glad you feel that CI hasn't hurt the deaf culture as far as you see it

 

[jazzy]

I said I heard stories on both sides ( deaf and CI users ), I believe you when you said you have many CI friends who still living in both worlds but I didn't even say ALL I said " some "...

I have friends who are CI users, and yet I haven't experiences anything as the others have, but that doesn't mean they're making this up, I would appreciate everyone to look at it from both sides please...


Thank you for sharing your view here, and I'm glad you feel that CI hasn't hurt the deaf culture as far as you see it

Knew few of my friends who were anti CI then now they wears CI. Interest about them, they attended CSDR, u know they are very deaf culturalists . I guess they grow up and changed their attiudes toward it and accept it. Maybe it comes with maturity as they grow older compare to young people who are still against CI.

As for me, I have no interest to getting one since I do not think I will be able to handle the noise after been deaf too long.

 

[Angel]

Knew few of my friends who were anti CI then now they wears CI. Interest about them, they attended CSDR, u know they are very deaf culturalists . I guess they grow up and changed their attiudes toward it and accept it. Maybe it comes with maturity as they grow older compare to young people who are still against CI.

As for me, I have no interest to getting one since I do not think I will be able to handle the noise after been deaf too long.

Yeah I used to be an Anti-CI myself that's because I didn't know so much about the implants, but now I do, yeah I can understand that you have no interest of getting one, not everyone wants one and I respect that too..

I noticed that many may be against the implants on children, which I can understand their side as well as understanding where the parents are coming from...Not all parents will approve their children being implanted in the early age, but maybe later on....


I have no clue what I would hear if I was implanted with CI, but I don't think I would want to hear so much noises cause I have a habit of hearing nothing but silence, but I think I'm ready to give it a try, but part of me is still scared LOL

 

[DefLord]

interesting.. I have severe and profound loss.. ( 86 DBL in the left, 95 DBL in the right )... but I'll try digital HAs first.. if they don't work well for me then I may think of getting a CI... I just want to communicate better with hearing world..

You're just about similiar to me... My left was 90db and my right was 95db so I had the CI done on my RIGHT ear so I can preserve my left ear for my hearing aid. and it has worked out fantastic.

 

[Cheri]

Can we please get back to the major point of the topic: "Why Cochlear Implants Hurt Deaf Culture? " I care less about how much those of you can hear or lost, It's not related to what we are discussing here.

 

[Foxrac]

Ur kidding. who said? I have many CI friends who are still living in deaf culture more than me. They call me hearing on my forehead even I do not have CI or wearing HA. I do not believe CI has not hurt their deaf culture as I do for one I married a hearing man.

but it is interest thread, thank u for point it out.

It's obiviously that CI hurts deaf culture because some young children are hearing with no sign language, that highly influence from hearing parent. I would list some more if I have time.

 

[R2D2]

I have no clue what I would hear if I was implanted with CI, but I don't think I would want to hear so much noises cause I have a habit of hearing nothing but silence, but I think I'm ready to give it a try, but part of me is still scared LOL

Well funnily enough for me I don't live in a world of silence anymore. Before the last of my residual hearing left me I could just turn off my hearing aids whenever I wanted a rest (aaah!) but now due to the sudden loss last year I live in a very loud world of tinnitus 24 hours a day. I can only compare it to being next to the engine room of a Boeing 747.

I've heard that in many cases CIs can either reduce or completely alleiviate the tinnitus. So I'm hoping that the CI will give me some more silence and let me be deaf again at night! Apparently my tinnitus may be due to my brain making up sounds because I am no longer getting the sounds that it used to get from hearing aids. I reckon this is true because when I hear a very loud noise such as a balloon popping my tinnitus suddenly stops as if it is saying "What? What was that?" But then it resumes a few seconds later.

I'm scared too but also excited. I don't have anything to lose as far as I'm concerned. Hearing aids are no use to me anymore.

 

[R2D2]

It's obiviously that CI hurts deaf culture because some young children are hearing with no sign language, that highly influence from hearing parent. I would list some more if I have time.

Another one for your list is immunization programs. The rubella vaccination has cut the number of deaf babies being born quite significantly, with a much greater impact than CIs being implanted on profoundly deaf children. That has to have an effect on deaf culture as well.

 

[Foxrac]

Knew few of my friends who were anti CI then now they wears CI. Interest about them, they attended CSDR, u know they are very deaf culturalists . I guess they grow up and changed their attiudes toward it and accept it. Maybe it comes with maturity as they grow older compare to young people who are still against CI.

As for me, I have no interest to getting one since I do not think I will be able to handle the noise after been deaf too long.

None of my friends that have CI today but few did wear before then stop to use CI when they are growing older. I have no minor friends though, all of them are over 18 years old. I stopped to wear it when I was in freshmen at high school in 2002. It's NOT immature reason to quit wear CI and I have other reason to stop wear it. Don't urge me to do that. That's several older men wear CI and used to hate before, it's their personal.

I'm NOT kidding about CI hurts deaf culture, for all my main opinion and same as many older deaf people said CI hurts deaf culture, many are anti-CI like me.

 

[Foxrac]

Another one for your list is immunization programs. The rubella vaccination has cut the number of deaf babies being born quite significantly, with a much greater impact than CIs being implanted on profoundly deaf children. That has to have an effect on deaf culture as well.

Really??

I only know about MMR that what kind of immunization and learned from Anatomy class last year, I'm forgot again so thanks for remember.

MMR=Mumps, Measles, Rubella
It had taken when they are babies or toddlers, also same with polio. I have hard time to find out that rubella vaccination if cut many deaf babies. Most third world countries are still existing with any disease and how people can find out if their children are become deaf from born or start toddler.

Deaf population are still growing in USA due massive immigrants from Latin America are moving into USA and have higher birth rate among hispanics, it support to get many deaf children because many of them don't want their children to take immunization til children are start elementary school or pre-school. I met some hispanic families around my area that has cute deaf kids.

 

[Cheri]

Research-Based Need for Guide-By-Your-Side Program
1. Essential Role Models Hearing parents of hearing children typically rely on models of parenting they've seen within their own circle of family and friends. When a baby is identified with hearing loss, a whole host of new considerations present themselves to parents . These parents will likely have no knowledge base from which to launch into the challenge of raising this child whose experience of life will be substantially different from his/her hearing parents. Indeed, 95% of all deaf or hard of hearing babies are born into hearing families with no prior experience with deafness or hearing loss. Families of deaf children often report that they did not have adequate resources for decision making (Eleweke & Rodda, 2000; Jackson, Becker, & Schmitendorf, 2002). Studies have reported that less than 10% of hearing parents of children who are deaf have frequent contacts with deaf adults (Hintermair, 2000). These studies suggest that parent-to-parent support encourages parents and provides parents with role models as they discover their capabilities as parents and families with a deaf/ hard of hearing child.

http://www.handsandvoices.org/services/guide.htm

Which is so true! I've even said that most hearing parents has no knowledge of how to raise a deaf child nor have no knowledge what to do. That's why most hearing parents rushed into getting implants for their deafness children. What a shame!

 

[Foxrac]

http://www.handsandvoices.org/services/guide.htm

Which is so true! I've even said that most hearing parents has no knowledge of how to raise a deaf child nor have no knowledge what to do. That's why most hearing parents rushed into getting implants for their deafness children. What a shame!

Yea, I feel sad.

Most low income families with deaf children are unable to afford to get into implants, they got free hearing aids from sponser or Marines support but both of support are paying with money to help deaf people. We got free hearing aids from Marines in 1991. When I was 2 years old and doctor was urgred my parent to get me into implants so my parent said no, that's peroid because my father already know about deaf culture and he's anti-CI like me does. My parent was divorced in 1993 after they argued over stuff about me, like CI.

 

[Gemtun]

http://www.handsandvoices.org/services/guide.htm

Which is so true! I've even said that most hearing parents has no knowledge of how to raise a deaf child nor have no knowledge what to do. That's why most hearing parents rushed into getting implants for their deafness children. What a shame!

We cannot judge these parents. You have to be in their shoes first before you can fully grasp the concept of their fear, guilt, shame, shock and confusion upon finding out that their child is deaf.

Granted, doctors are pushy because CI companies pay them for sponsoring CIs but there are many and many other programs who support bilingual or ASL or SEE, etc.

If I found out my child was blind, I would be confused too adn would rush to finding something because I want the best for my own child. Blind adults may judge me and scold me for not accepting their blindness in first place but it is my own decision. Being a parent is a damn tough job and dont need more guilt trips from others.

 

[Cheri]

We cannot judge these parents. You have to be in their shoes first before you can fully grasp the concept of their fear, guilt, shame, shock and confusion upon finding out that their child is deaf..

Judge them? Matter of fact I do know what it is like, because I've done my research, I also have hearing parents who were like them at first, Also I've know my deaf friends who have hearing parents too. They all walked in the same path of life, but some of them did not implanted their deaf children.

 

[IceCream]

Don't like attention? My friend seemed to be embarrassed when I told the sales lady that we were deaf. Why are you preaching to me about my friend? You do not know her but I do. She was implanted with a CI 2 years ago at age 39 and then all of a sudden she decides to dump her deaf friends.



You are right you do not understand because you do not know me at all but you shoud be able to understand about how I felt when she pushed me away after being her friend for so long. By the way, I am not hurt anymore because I am glad to know that she wasn't my true friend at all.


Again, you do not know me and my friend. We are not you and your friend.

You didn't understand me. I didn't say why you took your friendship personally. I did not talk about that at all. I only mentioned possible ways for her not wanting to tell the lady that she was deaf because you seemed to not wonder. Now, what you misunderstood completely is what I meant to say is, why do you take it personally when people call themselves hearing or if they don't want to tell others that they are deaf? If a CI person said that, I wouldn't care in the world if they felt hearing because how do you know how they feel with the CI or how they really hear? Technically they know that they cannot hear without their CI, but if they call themselve another term when they wear their CI, so what? Why does that really matter to you or anyone? If they feel happy, I think we should leave them alone. I don't understand this part. Now, if they start claiming to people that the CI makes you hearing like hearing people, then that's another isssue. Are you just afraid that if they are calling themselves hearing that they will start to spread a misunderstanding to other people about the CI?

 

[Foxrac]

We cannot judge these parents. You have to be in their shoes first before you can fully grasp the concept of their fear, guilt, shame, shock and confusion upon finding out that their child is deaf.

Granted, doctors are pushy because CI companies pay them for sponsoring CIs but there are many and many other programs who support bilingual or ASL or SEE, etc.

If I found out my child was blind, I would be confused too adn would rush to finding something because I want the best for my own child. Blind adults may judge me and scold me for not accepting their blindness in first place but it is my own decision. Being a parent is a damn tough job and dont need more guilt trips from others.

The hearing parents with blind children are pretty differnet cuz they can talk via voice and go to eye doctor.

 

[IceCream]

Another one for your list is immunization programs. The rubella vaccination has cut the number of deaf babies being born quite significantly, with a much greater impact than CIs being implanted on profoundly deaf children. That has to have an effect on deaf culture as well.

Tell me you're being sarcastic.

 

[Foxrac]

Tell me you're being sarcastic.

Why not? He/She got good point.