Why CI is bad for kids under 6 yrs.

[jackiesolorzano]

oh no, so now I can't use ice. What about crushed ice?

No you cannot use crushed ice because just opening the door of your ref., the hinges on the door could come off and land on your feet and you might have to have surgery. Just stay in your closet and you should be OK but dont move the door because the door can fall and hurt you OK. Be safe.

 

[jillio]

Actually you are wrong. My kids havn't seen a speech therapist in school in 10 years. They havn't seen their AVT therapist in a couple of years and when they were seeing her they would see her maybe 3 times a month. Both of my kids are involved in sports, this year it was cross country, water polo and track. My daughter is an amazing artiest so she is involved in that. My son is a computer geek, which takes up a lot of his time which as nothing to do with his deafness or CI. Since you don't have kids with CIs and do not have a CI, you wouldn't know, you can just sit there and think you know is involved.

Lumbingini is not wrong. He simply has an opinion that differs from yours. The issue we are discussing is subjective in nature, and therefore does not lend itself to right and wrong.

 

[jillio]

No you cannot use crushed ice because just opening the door of your ref., the hinges on the door could come off and land on your feet and you might have to have surgery. Just stay in your closet and you should be OK but dont move the door because the door can fall and hurt you OK. Be safe.

And you might have to have quadruple bypass surgery. The difference being, it is not an elective surgery, but a surgery to preserve life.

 

[shel90]

And you might have to have quadruple bypass surgery. The difference being, it is not an elective surgery, but a surgery to preserve life.

All I am glad is that the CI surgery is not the most dangerous kind of surgery...I guess when it first came out, many deaf people thought it was so dangerous since it was on the head..u know..head=brain seems to be so closely correlated.

Who knows?

 

[rick48]

oh no, so now I can't use ice. What about crushed ice?

Crushed ice! Are you out of your mind? Crushed ice increases the surface area in multiples of cubed ice thus increasing the risk of a slip and fall.
vallee I am so disappointed in you!
Rick

 

[jackiesolorzano]

All I am glad is that the CI surgery is not the most dangerous kind of surgery...I guess when it first came out, many deaf people thought it was so dangerous since it was on the head..u know..head=brain seems to be so closely correlated.

Who knows?

I guess I can sort of understand why deaf people would be scared being where the surgery takes place but it is not in the true sense head surgery. And the most dangerous part is getting up under.

 

[vallee]

Crushed ice! Are you out of your mind? Crushed ice increases the surface area in multiples of cubed ice thus increasing the risk of a slip and fall.
vallee I am so disappointed in you!
Rick

your right, I guess just plain soda or is that dangerous?

 

[rick48]

All I am glad is that the CI surgery is not the most dangerous kind of surgery...I guess when it first came out, many deaf people thought it was so dangerous since it was on the head..u know..head=brain seems to be so closely correlated.

Who knows?

No it was just one of the many scare tactics and lies used by them to attempt to frighten parents and adults.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

your right, I guess just plain soda or is that dangerous?

WAIT WAIT you have be careful when you open up the can because the gases can exposed in your face so aim away from your face and make sure your daughter is not around OK.

 

[vallee]

WAIT WAIT you have be careful when you open up the can because the gases can exposed in your face so aim away from your face and make sure your daughter is not around OK.

darn...I give up. okay water with no ice and a blizzard. You know I like my ice cream....with snickers inside....

 

[shel90]

No it was just one of the many scare tactics and lies used by them to attempt to frighten parents and adults.

Maybe so..I dont know. I cant speak for everyone in the Deaf community but I wouldnt be surprised that when CIs first came out, maybe so many of them thought that way. I am sure there are some who still sincerely think that way but doesnt mean that they are using that to bash people. Maybe they are frightened by the thought of surgery on the head. I gotta admit when I first learned about them and when the audi told me about having surgery, I pratically ran out of the office frightened.

Not everyone in the Deaf community is out to be anti-CI..there are so many Deaf people here in MD with CIs and nobody makes a big deal about it. I guess it must be different in other areas.

Heck, I even posted in another thread that if I dont hear anything from my HAs, I may consider getting a CI but I will still be scared of the surgery itself so I am not sure if I would actually go thru it.

No, it is not the most dangerous method of surgery and I am glad.

 

[Drew's Dad]

Some risks are inherent in living. Some we choose to take on that would not otherwise normally be there. Such is the difference. There are those that feel the risks associated with cosmetic surgery are worth it. There are those that feel that the risks associated with elective surgeries are worth it. There are those that don't. The question is, do we have the right to decide that the risk for an elective surgery is worth it for another. There are those that believe that right is theirs, there are those that will decide that they do not have the right to make that decision for another.

A fair statement.

 

[jackiesolorzano]

darn...I give up. okay water with no ice and a blizzard. You know I like my ice cream....with snickers inside....

Just make sure you have someone with you in case in you need CPR.

 

[vallee]

Maybe so..I dont know. I cant speak for everyone in the Deaf community but I wouldnt be surprised that when CIs first came out, maybe so many of them thought that way. I am sure there are some who still sincerely think that way but doesnt mean that they are using that to bash people. Maybe they are frightened by the thought of surgery on the head. I gotta admit when I first learned about them and when the audi told me about having surgery, I pratically ran out of the office frightened.

Not everyone in the Deaf community is out to be anti-CI..there are so many Deaf people here in MD with CIs and nobody makes a big deal about it. I guess it must be different in other areas.

Heck, I even posted in another thread that if I dont hear anything from my HAs, I may consider getting a CI but I will still be scared of the surgery itself so I am not sure if I would actually go thru it.

No, it is not the most dangerous method of surgery and I am glad.

I am one of the few that had both ears done the same time. I can tell you from experience it is not that bad. I had my shots, the best doctors, and a great hositpal. Plus I had a wonderful husband taking care of me. 7 months later, I would do it all over again. My doctor can implant my feet or toes or even my arm...it is worth it to me.

I am screaming IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE AND NOT FOR EVERYONE. okay back to me......We can't keep going in circles.

 

[shel90]

I am one of the few that had both ears done the same time. I can tell you from experience it is not that bad. I had my shots, the best doctors, and a great hositpal. Plus I had a wonderful husband taking care of me. 7 months later, I would do it all over again. My doctor can implant my feet or toes or even my arm...it is worth it to me.

I am screaming IT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE AND NOT FOR EVERYONE. okay back to me......We can't keep going in circles.

I have always stated it is none of my business if people want to get CIs. I have friends who have them. It is not a big deal...I just dont like the attitudes from the organizations that state how giving people a CI gives them more opportunies and stuff like that. The comparision between people who dont have them and those who have them. I never liked that..it would just start a war and get people to hate CIs for no reason. *sighs*

My coworker's wife got a CI surgery last week and many people at work chipped in to send her flowers. That is from a strong Deaf community right there.

Sure there will be always people against CIs. There will be always be people against the Deaf community and people who use ASL. Oh well.

 

[jillio]

All I am glad is that the CI surgery is not the most dangerous kind of surgery...I guess when it first came out, many deaf people thought it was so dangerous since it was on the head..u know..head=brain seems to be so closely correlated.

Who knows?

Exactly. And they still have not found a definitive cause for some of the serious side effects that some implant recipients end up with. But, since the symptoms are all neuroligical in basis, they can only assume that the cause is neurological resulting from the surgery, as well.

 

[shel90]

Exactly. And they still have not found a definitive cause for some of the serious side effects that some implant recipients end up with. But, since the symptoms are all neuroligical in basis, they can only assume that the cause is neurological resulting from the surgery, as well.

Like the headaches and stuff? I know some people that the CI made their tinnatus worse and some made it better. It is interesting how that happens and of course it is probably too complicated to find the cause.

 

[vallee]

I have always stated it is none of my business if people want to get CIs. I have friends who have them. It is not a big deal...I just dont like the attitudes from the organizations that state how giving people a CI gives them more opportunies and stuff like that. The comparision between people who dont have them and those who have them. I never liked that..it would just start a war and get people to hate CIs for no reason. *sighs*

My coworker's wife got a CI surgery last week and many people at work chipped in to send her flowers. That is from a strong Deaf community right there.

Sure there will be always people against CIs. There will be always be people against the Deaf community and people who use ASL. Oh well.

To me this has little to do with the Deaf Community and people who use ASL.

It has to do with a group of people who can't wear Hearing aids anymore. We love what hearing aids gave us - sound, and we want to continue it. That to me is what a CI is, a more powerful hearing aid so I can hear.

 

[vallee]

Like the headaches and stuff? I know some people that the CI made their tinnatus worse and some made it better. It is interesting how that happens and of course it is probably too complicated to find the cause.

my tinnitus is gone
My migraines are gone
My facial numbness is half of what it was.
They don't have an answer. My doctor is interested in why. He did say, yes the migraines are from using hearing aids. Each person is different.

 

[jillio]

No it was just one of the many scare tactics and lies used by them to attempt to frighten parents and adults.

Kind of like the scare tactic used on hearing parents of newly diagnosed deaf children....IMPLANT NOW OR YOUR CHILD WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FUNCTION IN A HEARING WORLD, WILL NEVER READ ABOVE A 4TH GRADE LEVEL, WILL NEVER LEARN TO SPEAK, AND WILL BE FOREVER A FAILURE AND A DRAIN ON SOCIETY?