Why adults choose CI's for their children

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faire_jour said:
There is a lot of judgement about what is right and what is wrong for deaf children here, so I think we need to be fair about it. It is not just hearing parents who make choices for their deaf children.

I wouldn't say that opportunity is the right word (even though it is the one I used). I would say it makes certain situations less difficult, which is always a good thing.
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Its not a matter of "right" or "wrong". It is a matter of more beneficial or less beneficial.
 
Read once that somebody asked two people at a separate times as if why they chose to have their deaf kids implanted.

Both answered the same thing... to be independent unlike the deaf without implants. The interviewer was struck of their answers since she knew it was false.

We deaf people, many of them, are independent in fact... so many of us readers then posted the "same thoughts" as why they thought it so. We found it so odd!
 
jillio said:
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Children with CI can very well be in the same range as hearing children.

The bolded are your words. Please clarify what you mean by children with CI being in the same range. Same range of what?
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Cloggy said:
Understandable speech.:wave:
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And one can add the ability to connect with the sounds around them.
 
web730 said:
Read once that somebody asked two people at a separate times as if why they chose to have their deaf kids implanted.

Both answered the same thing... to be independent unlike the deaf without implants. The interviewer was struck of their answers since she knew it was false.

We deaf people, many of them, are independent in fact... so many of us readers then posted the "same thoughts" as why they thought it so. We found it so odd!
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Anybody that suggests a deaf person with a CI is more independant that one without IMO doesn't understand. What I belive is true is that a deaf person that has success with a CI avails themselves to more opportunities to assimilate with a predomitly hearing society which may lead to independance.
 
Cloggy said:
Absolutely... There's no time to waste! Sign asap, hearing asap!
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Exactly. There is a window of opportunity that should not be delayed. Some deaf native signing parents with deaf children will opt for the manual communication route and will probably be quite successful at it for obvious reasons. Some non-signing hearing parents will probably opt for verbal communication with a CI for the same reasons. Exposure to language as quickly as possible. Like you said. There is no time to waste.
 
rockdrummer said:
Anybody that suggests a deaf person with a CI is more independant that one without IMO doesn't understand. What I belive is true is that a deaf person that has success with a CI avails themselves to more opportunities to assimilate with a predomitly hearing society which may lead to independance.
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That is exactly what many deaf people here on AllDeaf that decided for CI talk about a lot.
 
Cloggy said:
That is exactly what many deaf people here on AllDeaf that decided for CI talk about a lot.
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I also see them talking about those as reasons for wanting one and I see discussion where they have met their goals after getting a CI. While it might not be for everyone or it might not prove beneficial to everyone you can't deny those that have enjoyed success and now have more opportunities as a result.
 
rockdrummer said:
I also see them talking about those as reasons for wanting one and I see discussion where they have met their goals after getting a CI. While it might not be for everyone or it might not prove beneficial to everyone you can't deny those that have enjoyed success and now have more opportunities as a result.
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Well said.

If I have been without HA's or HA's hasn't been beneficial to me since I was born, then I would be in a totally different situation. HA's *were* beneficial to me and I lost a lot of residual hearing, therefore it makes perfect sense that CI would be more successful for me.

I totally agree that CI is not for everyone. If someone that has be totally deaf and never wore hearing aids their whole life for 30 years, and then suddenly wants CI...I would tell them that they will have a hard time dealing with the sounds because they were never exposed to it. Others just want the CI to see what it sounds like and sometimes they just stop wearing it.
 
LadySekhmet said:
Well said.

If I have been without HA's or HA's hasn't been beneficial to me since I was born, then I would be in a totally different situation. HA's *were* beneficial to me and I lost a lot of residual hearing, therefore it makes perfect sense that CI would be more successful for me.

I totally agree that CI is not for everyone. If someone that has be totally deaf and never wore hearing aids their whole life for 30 years, and then suddenly wants CI...I would tell them that they will have a hard time dealing with the sounds because they were never exposed to it. Others just want the CI to see what it sounds like and sometimes they just stop wearing it.
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If you had a deaf child would you opt for a CI? And regardless of your choice, what reasons would you factor into the decision?
 
rockdrummer said:
If you had a deaf child would you opt for a CI? And regardless of your choice, what reasons would you factor into the decision?
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I had a deaf child and I didn't even considered a CI for her.

The reasoning is simple: I think it's a form of abuse.
 
LadySekhmet said:
Well said.

If I have been without HA's or HA's hasn't been beneficial to me since I was born, then I would be in a totally different situation. HA's *were* beneficial to me and I lost a lot of residual hearing, therefore it makes perfect sense that CI would be more successful for me.

I totally agree that CI is not for everyone. If someone that has be totally deaf and never wore hearing aids their whole life for 30 years, and then suddenly wants CI...I would tell them that they will have a hard time dealing with the sounds because they were never exposed to it. Others just want the CI to see what it sounds like and sometimes they just stop wearing it.
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Part of that statement scares me. It makes me question if I'm doing the right thing. My decision to have one came only after many months of research and questions. I have to say the near-first part -- never having worn hearing aids and then suddenly hearing sounds doesn't apply to me because I've always worn hearing aids. And the second part about just wanting to see what it sounds like then stop wearing them is beyond me .. To me, there's too much at stake to just be curious .. What I'm saying here it is the FIRST part of your sentence "I totally agree that CI is not for everyone" that scares me the most -- don't worry, you are by far not the first to say that. It's just what gives me pause and makes me think about whether I'm doing the right thing or not. It's hard to know and I said this in a thread yesterday -- "you never know until you try." I just wish I could get over being so nervous, and hopefully that will pass once I've really gotten started with the audis, ent, surgeon, etc., which will all be happening soon. I think parents deal with similar kinds of emotions when deciding for their child.
 
Byrdie714 said:
I had a deaf child and I didn't even considered a CI for her.

The reasoning is simple: I think it's a form of abuse.
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A form of abuse. That is quite the reasoning. Are you saying abuse because its surgery or abuse because "society is forcing them to be what they are not"?
 
web730 said:
Read once that somebody asked two people at a separate times as if why they chose to have their deaf kids implanted.

Both answered the same thing... to be independent unlike the deaf without implants. The interviewer was struck of their answers since she knew it was false.
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Did they say "to be independent unlike the deaf without implants." or did they say "to be independent." and the latter part is a conclusion?

Even so, how would they get the idea that deaf people are independent.? What is their experience with deaf people? Is is hands-on experience, or prejudice?

Independence has not be the goal when we decided to give CI to Lotte. Communication was our motivator. To be able to speak Dutch with her family, Norwegian with friends.
 
Daredevel7 said:
A form of abuse. That is quite the reasoning. Are you saying abuse because its surgery or abuse because "society is forcing them to be what they are not"?
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Understand that I come from a family that is all HOH/Deaf.

When the CI's first came out, we all were interested in it. But after researching the CI--we decided that it wasn't worth it due to insufficient studies on the long term effects of CI in one's ear/head.

To answer your question--I would say both. Because of the unnecessary surgery and abuse because of societal's views on deafness and hearing loss.

I remember holding a boy that had a CI who was bawling and it just didn't feel right to hold him with a CI sticking out.

My first thought was...."This is unnatural." Then my daughter came over and held her as well which felt perfectly normal.

I'm sorry but anytime I go into a room with children that have CI's, my first thought is, "Aliens"--like the movie.
 
Cloggy said:
What kind of form?
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I just answered it:

Byrdie714 said:
Understand that I come from a family that is all HOH/Deaf.

When the CI's first came out, we all were interested in it. But after researching the CI--we decided that it wasn't worth it due to insufficient studies on the long term effects of CI in one's ear/head.

To answer your question--I would say both. Because of the unnecessary surgery and abuse because of societal's views on deafness and hearing loss.

I remember holding a boy that had a CI who was bawling and it just didn't feel right to hold him with a CI sticking out.

My first thought was...."This is unnatural." Then my daughter came over and held her as well which felt perfectly normal.

I'm sorry but anytime I go into a room with children that have CI's, my first thought is, "Aliens"--like the movie.
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Byrdie714 said:
I'm sorry but anytime I go into a room with children that have CI's, my first thought is, "Aliens"--like the movie.
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Isn't that a little vain?

What's "natural" nowadays anyway? Are glasses natural? Are clothes even natural?
 
Byrdie714 said:
When the CI's first came out, we all were interested in it. But after researching the CI--we decided that it wasn't worth it due to insufficient studies on the long term effects of CI in one's ear/head.
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This is similar reasoning my mom used when I was born. She did not want to do the CI because it was still new and in experimental stage at that time. I did fine without the CI and used HAs instead. Now, my mom says that if I were born today, she would do CI to me, and I agree with her. I decided to do a CI and am scheduled to do it a few days before Thanksgiving. It will be an interesting Thanksgiving with my head bandaged up!
 
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