Why adults choose CI's for their children

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rockdrummer said:
I hope not. The Deaf culture is like any culture. You have left, right and center. It really depends on many factors that determine how a person treats other humans. If parents choose CIs' for their children the last thing they should have to worry about is rejection or that their child will be seen be seen as a freak or cyborg or some nonsense. Unfortunately as you have witnessed, it does happen.
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These are children we are discussing. Babies! I just don't understand these views. I personally feel this type of comments is a reflection on how they feel about others not just CI children. So those types of comments are not acceptable here or anywhere.
 
vallee said:
RD is this type of comments the norm in the Deaf Community?
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Not in the Deaf community I associate with. We have many Deaf people who are CI users.

Maybe someone is taking the words of a few deaf extremists and holding a whole community responsible for it which is wrong. I am a part of the Deaf community and I have never rejected a CI user so pls do not hold me accountable for some extremists. Thank you.

Should we say the hearing community rejects deaf people because a few hearing people are against deaf people? Same logic.
 
vallee said:
These are children we are discussing. Babies! I just don't understand these views. I personally feel this type of comments is a reflection on how they feel about others not just CI children. So those types of comments are not acceptable here or anywhere.
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Vallee,

This is the second time in recent weeks this poster has made such comments. You are right they are not acceptable anywhere and should not be tolerated by the moderators.
Rick
 
shel90 said:
Not in the Deaf community I associate with. We have many Deaf people who are CI users.

Maybe someone is taking the words of a few deaf extremists and holding a whole community responsible for it which is wrong. I am a part of the Deaf community and I have never rejected a CI user so pls do not hold me accountable for some extremists. Thank you.

Should we say the hearing community rejects deaf people because a few hearing people are against deaf people? Same logic.
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Instead of trying to twist this around into a bogus attack on the hearing community why not deal directly with comments of this poster?
 
shel90 said:
Not in the Deaf community I associate with. We have many Deaf people who are CI users.

Maybe someone is taking the words of a few deaf extremists and holding a whole community responsible for it which is wrong. I am a part of the Deaf community and I have never rejected a CI user so pls do not hold me accountable for some extremists. Thank you.

Should we say the hearing community rejects deaf people because a few hearing people are against deaf people? Same logic.
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I am thankful it is not. Instead of making a generalization that is why I asked. I know in my area it is not. I also know that there have been many extremists commenting on blogs with these comments. I wanted to know how common it is.

As for hearing people making comments against deaf people, some logic, it is not acceptable here or anywhere.
 
vallee said:
I am thankful it is not. Instead of making a generalization that is why I asked. I know in my area it is not. I also know that there have been many extremists commenting on blogs with these comments. I wanted to know how common it is.

As for hearing people making comments against deaf people, some logic, it is not acceptable here or anywhere.
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Right..it is not acceptable. I do not like it when Deaf people insult CI users especially children. I find it wrong too.

I have spoken out about in the Deaf community.
 
shel90 said:
Not in the Deaf community I associate with. We have many Deaf people who are CI users.

Maybe someone is taking the words of a few deaf extremists and holding a whole community responsible for it which is wrong. I am a part of the Deaf community and I have never rejected a CI user so pls do not hold me accountable for some extremists. Thank you.

Should we say the hearing community rejects deaf people because a few hearing people are against deaf people? Same logic.
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You may be referring to my first post where I forgot to say some in the D/eaf community. I did go back and correct that. In my subsequent posts I did say some. I fully understand that not all people are extremest and I would never hold an entire culture responsible for the actions of a few.
 
shel90 said:
Right..it is not acceptable. I do not like it when Deaf people insult CI users especially children. I find it wrong too.

I have spoken out about in the Deaf community.
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Maybe you should pm Byrdie. He is the one that couln't even comfort a crying deaf child because the child had a CI. Maybe Byrdie is one of the extremists you speak of. I hope the mods leave Byrdie's posts in this thread so parents can see that there are actually people that think that way.
 
rockdrummer said:
Maybe you should pm Byrdie. He is the one that couln't even comfort a crying deaf child because the child had a CI. Maybe Byrdie is one of the extremists you speak of. I hope the mods leave Byrdie's posts in this thread so parents can see that there are actually people that think that way.
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Ok I will PM him.

Already told him that it wasnt nice in an old thread that got locked. I would be more than happy to do it again.
 
rockdrummer said:
You may be referring to my first post where I forgot to say some in the D/eaf community. I did go back and correct that. In my subsequent posts I did say some. I fully understand that not all people are extremest and I would never hold an entire culture responsible for the actions of a few.
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No, I wasnt referring to it. I wasnt aware of that post either cuz I overlooked it or forgot about it. It is so hard to remember every post and who said what. I do not possess that skill although it would be nice!
 
shel90 said:
Not in the Deaf community I associate with. We have many Deaf people who are CI users.

Maybe someone is taking the words of a few deaf extremists and holding a whole community responsible for it which is wrong. I am a part of the Deaf community and I have never rejected a CI user so pls do not hold me accountable for some extremists. Thank you.

Should we say the hearing community rejects deaf people because a few hearing people are against deaf people? Same logic.
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Exactly. It is. My best friend is a signer. I am hearing and know very little sign, but it doesn't stop us at all. We agreed a long time ago to meet each other half way and we have. I find it sad that the hearing reject the deaf and the deaf reject the hearing. It really doesn't have to be that way.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Exactly. It is. My best friend is a signer. I am hearing and know very little sign, but it doesn't stop us at all. We agreed a long time ago to meet each other half way and we have. I find it sad that the hearing reject the deaf and the deaf reject the hearing. It really doesn't have to be that way.
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I agree...

just like some whites reject blacks and some blacks reject whites. Wish this was a perfect world!
 
shel90 said:
Ok I will PM him.

Already told him that it wasnt nice in an old thread that got locked. I would be more than happy to do it again.
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Please. I found what he said offensive, too. If a hearing said it, they'd have 20 people PMing them telling them what an ass they are.
 
People. Why parents choose CI's for their children is the topic here... While I appreciate your comments, ... Lets try to stay on track...
 
Yes, why can't we all get along!!!!???

Who is up for a group hug?!?!?!:grouphug:

*arms stretched out*

.....

*sees that no one answers.... retreats back to corner*
 
shel90 said:
I agree...

just like some whites reject blacks and some blacks reject whites. Wish this was a perfect world!
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Well, the world isn't perfect, but how can anything change if people don't insist on change. The atitudes of seperatism is perpetrated by BOTH the deaf community and the hearing world. In order for change to take place, an effort has to be made to understand one another. You can't expect anything to change until the effort to understand one another is made.

Just my two cents.
 
OK... great points.. now back to the topic please. ofc after the group hug proposed by daredevil....
 
Why is it that he can say that I am a child abuser for implanting my daughter, but if I point out that he is being an ignorant "jerk", my post gets pulled?
 
faire_jour said:
Why is it that he can say that I am a child abuser for implanting my daughter, but if I point out that he is being an ignorant "jerk", my post gets pulled?
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Agreed... doesn't seem fair does it. I think Byrdie should be warned but I also think as bad as the post was that it should remain for people to see. Yes there are actually people that think the way Byrdie does about children with CI's. Sometimes people never cease to amaze me.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Well, the world isn't perfect, but how can anything change if people don't insist on change. The atitudes of seperatism is perpetrated by BOTH the deaf community and the hearing world. In order for change to take place, an effort has to be made to understand one another. You can't expect anything to change until the effort to understand one another is made.

Just my two cents.
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I am all for it.
 
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