Who is God?

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Reba said:
Faith.
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And that is essentially the issue - you believe in a flawed book written, changed, altered by man. I am not sure why you believe in such a thing. I've yet to see you provide any proof of the Bible being completely without flaws.

It was their faith in God's promise of a Saviour that saved them, not their works.
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Perhaps that is what the Christians have taught you. It isn't so for the Jews, Reba. Stop thinking your religion dominates all other religions. To be frank, I see you as a brainwashed individual. :(

Yahweh = God = Allah. ;)
 
Yiffzer said:
Reba, after seeing Teresh simply demolish your steadfast beliefs, I just wonder how I could do any better.



"The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies." Isaiah 42:13

Jesus did not go forth as a "mighty man", but a peaceful man. Muhammad did.
Jesus did not stand up like a "man of war", but preached hope and love. Muhammad did.
Jesus did not "cry, yea, roar against his enemies", but suffered under God's light. Muhammad did.
If you knew Islamic history with an objective view, you wouldn't necessarily be arguing with this fact. Muhammad was vastly different from Jesus as Muhammad waged war while Jesus did not.



"He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you." (John 16:14)
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." (John 14:26)
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." (John 15:26)

It is hard to believe that a "Holy Spirit" (if it exists) would do such a physical act. Besides, "the Comforter" is often referred to as a being, a person.

Muhammad glorified Jesus, commanding all Muslims to acknowledge and respect Jesus.
Muhammad reminded Muslims of Jesus and even repeated what Jesus had said centuries ago.
Muhammad told Muslims of what Jesus did.
All these is a fact. Perhaps Muhammad is the Comforter.



"The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken." (Deuteronomy 18:15)

Thank you for admitting Jesus was a prophet. :roll:

But I'm sorry, it isn't Jesus. Think about it. Moses said God will raise another prophet (which literally all Christians deny Jesus is) that is like Moses. If you studied Biblical history and Islamic history, you'd realize that Moses and Muhammad are similar in many ways.

If you did not study the Qur'an/Islamic history, then you would never know of any of these! Again, the Bible is all you know! Please research plentiful of Islamic history and the religion before you even post. Open your mind and be willing to learn, Reba.
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Yiffzer,

I am not here to judge other's beliefs, etc..

I had own original Koran book, I read and studied it whole through for twice times..

Therefore Koran is more nasty words, even racists. Koran book's storyline is not very order.. Koran book is more Catholic book, did you know that?

Do you really expect Muhammad had to meet Nimrod in kingdom of babel? Your expect that Muhammad went to egpyt to face the great king PHARAOH!? have Muhammad met Mighty KING Nebchadenzzar of babylon before? Had he met RUTHLESS ROMAN KING named CAEASR who was emperor of kingdom and world?

last question is that Did Muhammad came to america to save black slaves out of white hands?? what is your point that want to convice people believe islam is good????

that why I read your koran book is not DEFINITELY MATCHED!
 
jazzy said:
U don't get it? U are still young to me. :) U have not expeirence my age yet but u will in 20 years from now. I was 27 once and young mother, now I am 20 years older and going thru early menopause. Are u going thru mid life crisis yet? I know some men already went thru midlife crisis when they hit 40's. It is what I mean, everyone go thru the phases of life. You are still young, enjoy it while it lasts. That is what they see u and others, still young and still have not reach some point of life yet. I am sure Tousi and Reba see me young because they already went thru 40's and I am in the middle of it. U and I can talk about religions, politicans, science and go on as any age do but life expeirences u and I are on different level right now.
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:lol: Of course Reba, Tousi, you, me and everyone STILL learn everyday... no matter how old we are.

Please re-read my previous post carefully.

http://www.alldeaf.com/751090-post358.html
 
Reba said:
Yeah, so why are people upset when Tousi and I merely point out that our numbers are closer to 100 than the numbers of the "kids"? What's the big deal?
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:eek3: Did you know what respect is?

Again
http://www.alldeaf.com/750559-post331.html

This is a form of disrespectful and belittling word, you made toward ADers because you don't like them for convince you why they disagree.

You should put right word in respect way when you disagree something instead of belittling them. No wonder, why ADers show their disrespectful in return.

That's the attitude I mentioned. Some posters are very rude when they tell people to "shut up" or that they are "stupid". That is a very childish rude attitude. I hope they can grow out of it.
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Yes I have seen and ignore it. If you feel that it's you, they are referring to then tell them something in polite way.
 
Reba said:
Faith.


Only Jesus was sinless. He was sinless because He was God, NOT because He was a prophet. Everyone else, including prophets, was and is a sinner.


It was their faith in God's promise of a Saviour that saved them, not their works.
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Like i said before, Yiffzer and others do not read the Bible so they dont
understand, Reba.:roll:
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I have seen and ignore it. If you feel that it's you, they are referring to then tell them something in polite way.
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You are repeating yourself again and again...please
let it go...its done over with...You take things too
seriously, really. We were just joking.
We were not being disrespectful or anything..just
joking, geez. Let it go, ok?
Its getting old, really.
Have a nice day!
 
Defee said:
You are repeating yourself again and again...please
let it go...its done over with...You take things too
seriously, really. We were just joking.
We were not being disrespectful or anything..just
joking, geez. Let it go, ok?
Its getting old, really.
Have a nice day!
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*scratch my head*
 
Yiffzer said:
Then you are not afraid to sin.
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It's not the matter of being afraid or not, It's like how we can not sin? It's very impossible for anyone to follow God's perfect standard law. It takes a lot, a great power to not sin.

I've learned as a Christian to not judge others for their sins, but some Christians do anyway like telling them they'll go to hell if they kept on repeating the sins. They have to be the ones freeing themselves from sin. ;)
 
RITCount said:
And can you prove that Jesus is God himself? No, you can't. Thus, your argument is illogical.
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:lol: I was like you at the begin, I was like how is that possible?? Because as I remember Jesus spoke to his father the day he was arrested, Jesus was showing us how to pray, how to worship God and how we should pray to forgive our sins. About Jesus being God, The body is Jesus and the spirit of God would be the Holy Spirit, You know Jesus soul was spiritual being, that means his mind, his heart, the control center, his personality is God the father's spirit, so Jesus represents the body of God. If you read (Job 32:8) It would say Our spirit is always trying to unite us with God through Jesus Christ, who is the only way to God.. That means the only way to God, is go through Jesus, so therefore, Jesus is God. Nobody has seen God, but people have seen Jesus. God is a spirit, it's impossible for anyone to see God, God is like a solar flare, as part of the sun. Jesus had a body, God send him to us to show us the right way and die for us for our sins. Also Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him. so what does that tell you? That would tell you Jesus is God. I rest my case.

I hope it gets a clear point of understanding why Jesus is God. ;)
 
Liebling:-))) said:
No, this is form of description, you made toward ADers who against your belief is a "belittling".

This is your word... No wonder, why some ADers took your post seriously.
http://www.alldeaf.com/750559-post331.html
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I did NOT say anything about their beliefs in that post.

My post actually made fun of the fact that Tousi and I are NOT young.

I added the color and smiley face to show that it was NOT a serious statement.

I did NOT use the word "immature".

I don't know why you are confused about it.
 
XBGMER said:
Yiffzer,

I am not here to judge other's beliefs, etc..

I had own original Koran book, I read and studied it whole through for twice times..

Therefore Koran is more nasty words, even racists. Koran book's storyline is not very order.. Koran book is more Catholic book, did you know that?

Do you really expect Muhammad had to meet Nimrod in kingdom of babel? Your expect that Muhammad went to egpyt to face the great king PHARAOH!? have Muhammad met Mighty KING Nebchadenzzar of babylon before? Had he met RUTHLESS ROMAN KING named CAEASR who was emperor of kingdom and world?

last question is that Did Muhammad came to america to save black slaves out of white hands?? what is your point that want to convice people believe islam is good????

that why I read your koran book is not DEFINITELY MATCHED!
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Well, the very fact you type English terribly says enough about your reading comprehension skills. Islam is against racism so I am not sure where you get this.

As for the rest of your babble, I don't know what you're talking about. :roll:

I'm also not trying to make Islam look good or anything.
 
Defee said:
Like i said before, Yiffzer and others do not read the Bible so they dont
understand, Reba.:roll:
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So I do not read the Bible? Nice defensive assumption. I have several Bibles now thanks to missionaries that come to my home. And I've mentioned somewhere that I've been studying religion for the past few years. :roll:

If you can't argue for shit, then don't say anything, Defee. As far as I could tell, you misread your Bible. :roll:
 
Cheri said:
:lol: I was like you at the begin, I was like how is that possible?? Because as I remember Jesus spoke to his father the day he was arrested, Jesus was showing us how to pray, how to worship God and how we should pray to forgive our sins. About Jesus being God, The body is Jesus and the spirit of God would be the Holy Spirit, You know Jesus soul was spiritual being, that means his mind, his heart, the control center, his personality is God the father's spirit, so Jesus represents the body of God. If you read (Job 32:8) It would say Our spirit is always trying to unite us with God through Jesus Christ, who is the only way to God.. That means the only way to God, is go through Jesus, so therefore, Jesus is God. Nobody has seen God, but people have seen Jesus. God is a spirit, it's impossible for anyone to see God, God is like a solar flare, as part of the sun. Jesus had a body, God send him to us to show us the right way and die for us for our sins. Also Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him. so what does that tell you? That would tell you Jesus is God. I rest my case.

I hope it gets a clear point of understanding why Jesus is God. ;)
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The Bible has been altered since its first publication. I rest my case. :roll:
 
Yiffzer said:
The Bible has been altered since its first publication. I rest my case. :roll:
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That's your opinion. One day you'll find out, when you do, You can reach me up in heaven to thanked me. :giggle:
 
Defee said:
Like i said before, Yiffzer and others do not read the Bible so they dont
understand, Reba.:roll:
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Well, the way I see, they have read the Bible. But not understand them. Remember, how religious leaders think they know the Torah, and others, but still blinding and remember, His disciples has the same thought of religious what they learned and Jesus trying to point out, bec thought Jesus is doing in politically way like as the prophets said that He will overcome and become king in political way, but that's not what prophets meant there. Like during crucifixion, thinking how Jesus talking to His Father and crying out for Elijah to help Him down, which how Jesus doesn't meant that way and disciples confuse and thought will destroy the Roman's power and many others been happening, which is similar as of today. Like Paul said, the world will think about the messages of the cross is foolish to them and yet blinded. Remember, throughout the OT, even religious leaders had beaten, trodden and killed the prophets that God called them as Jesus described and still going on today, who proclaim Christ.
 
PePe LePew said:
Not onlys by me but others, we should be considered others people's feelin'gs, I guess you don't get my points do you ?

Actually I have a mother who is hearing, I told her about this Religions being fought by a cats & dogs fighting with each other saying your wrong, mine's right, who's wrong who's right and the final answer my mother said about this:

IT IS A WASTES OF TIME!!!
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^ I agree, that's why I stay away from threads like this, I rather to attend chruch and read my own bible, it's more peaceful that way, btw good to see you back, hope you're feeling better :hug:
 
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