Who is God?

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The books you listed here and the terms you used for god is wrong, my heavenly father has but two names God and Jesus point blank. Not torah or a messenger for instance lol!
My bible says nothing of the sort, it's the bible you read that is false.
When jesus decended into heaven he joined his father (God) and the holy spirit as one entity.

Books? I used NIV and KJV. How are they wrong? Almost all Christians I know use the KJV. :roll:
You understand that the Torah is part of the Bible? It is surprising that you would completely disregard the Old Testament.
You know, it's funny that you see third party narration proclaiming Jesus as God but there is no first person account [of Jesus] saying such a thing. If you don't see that, then your Bible must've omitted or changed these verses into something else. That says a lot about your "infallible" Bible, yes? ;) The point is that pretty much every Bible today are unreliable and you can't refute that considering many leading Christian scholars admitting that themselves!

"Not so the New testament. There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors. They represent experience and history." -Kenneth Cragg; Bishop of Anglican Archdiocese of Jerusalem
 
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You still haven't answered to my previous post with scriptures I provided. Cat caught your tongue ?
 
You still haven't answered to my previous post with scriptures I provided. Cat caught your tongue ?

You present your verses without knowing whether the Bible is true. You must prove your Bible is reliable and true to God's words before you can begin using the verses. If it were never true in the first place, why even discuss this?

But I will answer your two verses (because I'm nice :p).

1) I know this refers to God's Flesh (Jesus). But please be aware that it is easy to refute this claim as a flawed or altered translation.
2) I know this is just one of the many verses related to Jesus being God. But please be aware, it is still like any other verses that are easily questionable in its authenticity.
 
Then you are not afraid to sin.

Huh? We, that includes YOU, were born sinners! dont you
understand that?
We have to accept Jesus in our lives to be forgiven for our sins
and transgressions.
If you dont believe that, fine! Thats your prerogative, period!
Wait till Judgement Day, you will be very sorry if you dont
accept Jesus in your life.
Thats all im gonna say and i will not argue with you or anybody
else!
 
Huh? We, that includes YOU, were born sinners! dont you
understand that?

This tells me you lack wisdom. :roll:

If you fear God, you will be aware of God so that you will attempt to not sin. If you do not fear God, then you will be sympathetic to the thought that God is entirely forgiving so you will continue to sin, based on the lame concept of, "We are sinners!" From there I see no effort from you into perfecting your very self for God and God alone.

We have to accept Jesus in our lives to be forgiven for our sins
and transgressions.
If you dont believe that, fine! Thats your prerogative, period!
Wait till Judgement Day, you will be very sorry if you dont
accept Jesus in your life.
Thats all im gonna say and i will not argue with you or anybody
else!

I can say the same thing to you: "Accept Islam! If you don't, wait 'til Judgment day! You will be very sorry if you don't accept Islam as your religion!"

Don't pull that lame threat with me. ;)
 
I been seen many people have different of reglious such as Lutheran, Cathlioc, Mormon, and Many who believe in GOD.
Tell me about GOD.
There is a lot to tell about God... but there is no definite truth. It's only the truth if people believe it, but for me... it's when I see it.
1. Where is GOD's picture or status in church or bible book? I never see GOD's picture in book or church but only Mary and Jesus.
There is no picture... period. There was no actual painting done, nothing. For all we know, God could be black... white... yellow... red... brown... In fact, he might even have a black head, white chest, yellow arms, red legs, and brown hair! Oh, eh could be bald! Oh, he could be she! Oh, she probably doesn't exist... period. I'll believe it when I see it. ;)
2. Where was GOD born? What Year? Who were his Parent and Siblings?
According to my overly-religious parents, he was already there. I think that's bullshit. Everything has a beginning. You're not "just there". As for siblings, try researching on Greek and Roman gods. They all had siblings. Perhaps, God had a brother and/or a sister. ;)
3. Was GOD as person real exist or fake?
Fake. If he was real, he was probably someone from space or from the future... abusing his superior technology towards those who were dumb and inferior. :roll:
4. Was GOD have sex with Mary and have her pregnant with their son who was named Jesus?
That's what it seems like. He probably had "mental-sex" with her and caused her to get pregnant. However, what would you call it if someone got you pregnant without your knowledge or without your permission? Some would call it rape or false impregnation. If that is the case, God committed a major sin! :nono:
5. Was GOD died in burial or heaven with Angels? If burial, where?
How do you die in heaven? If that was the case, he went to heaven and then died. Oh, wait... God is supposedly immortal, he doesn't die. Unless, he's fake... and did die... which would explain why he suddenly disappeared or stop being involved with the affairs in the beginning of the New Testament. ;)
6. What kind of relgious was GOD?
What religion could he possibly have? If he had a religion, then there would be a huge issue between Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Pentacostal, etc. Let's just say that he's multi-denominational. ;)
7. Did GOD met Devil/Satan from Hell as person?
Of course, God knew Satan... God created Satan! That's what religious fanatics say. :roll:
I have seen ppl talk a lot about GOD all the time but was HE real? I don't think so becuz There is no GOD there but Jesus was real as person.
You're probably right. God was probably fake and Jesus was probably real. Of course, Jesus was probably a con artist and knew how to exploit people's weaknesses. If I knew you were gullible, I could easily approach you and come up with a lie that you would believe instantly. Jesus was probably an educated scientist who knew some things that people didn't know. If you read the Bible, it jumps from childhood to adulthood. Where was he during the teenhood? He was probably elsewhere getting educated and took advantage of this kind of education against others. Jesus made wine? So can we! Jesus walked on water? It was probably ice that was floating inches under the water. (I read an article on this.)
 
Why should he surrender his pride to a Christian?
I wasn't talking about anyone surrendering pride to Christians. I'm talking about surrendering pride to Jesus.

Remember Yiffzer's very happy to be a person of Jewish heritage. Therefore, he does not need to subscribe to your misguided beliefs.
His beliefs are his choice. Anyway, he can speak for himself.

How is Yiffzer all of that if he just wants to stick to the topic instead of evading topics like you have been with this topic? Maybe he is just trying to challenge you to open your mind so you can view everything in a new light?
Let Yiffzer speak for himself.

And since when is there a plural word as "proofs?" I can guarantee you that word doesn't exist anywhere in the English dictionary.
Except in math, publishing, photography, and coin collecting. :)

I never claimed to be perfect. Far from it.

Don't sweat the small stuff.
 
]I wasn't talking about anyone surrendering pride to Christians. I'm talking about surrendering pride to Jesus.

And Yiffy doesn't want to surrender his pride to Jesus. Why? Because he is a Jew. He worships a different kind of prophet. With that said, would you feel be inclined to call him a sinner based on this? If so, then your views of religion is incredibly misguided. It is no surprise why so many Christians would easily oppose you.
His beliefs are his choice. Anyway, he can speak for himself.

If it's Yiffy's choice, then why are you condemning him for doing so? You are trying to force a person of a different faith to see things your way. God does not like that.


Let Yiffzer speak for himself.

Yeah because you enjoy the fact that he can make you feel insignificant in terms of philosophical messages.

Except in math, publishing, photography, and coin collecting. :)

I never claimed to be perfect. Far from it.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

Then why do you act like you're better than Yiffy when it comes to religion? Quite a paradox you've created there, Reba.

I'll close this post with something Yiffzer would enjoy:

May Allah be with you on this long journey that you're about to embark on.
 
And Yiffy doesn't want to surrender his pride to Jesus. Why? Because he is a Jew. He worships a different kind of prophet.
I don't think he "worships" a prophet but it's up to him to say. Why don't you let him speak for himself? He's a big boy.

With that said, would you feel be inclined to call him a sinner based on this?
No, he is a sinner because everyone is a sinner, myself included. We are all sinners, no more, no less.

If so, then your views of religion is incredibly misguided. It is no surprise why so many Christians would easily oppose you.
Whatever. :roll:

If it's Yiffy's choice, then why are you condemning him for doing so?
I don't "condemn" him. I hold no ill feelings towards him, or you, for that matter. I don't wish eternal condemnation on anyone.

You are trying to force a person of a different faith to see things your way. God does not like that.
I can't "force" anyone to believe; it's the responsibility of the Holy Spirit to convict hearts.

How do you know what God likes?

Yeah because you enjoy the fact that he can make you feel insignificant in terms of philosophical messages.
Yeah, that's it. :roll:


Then why do you act like you're better than Yiffy when it comes to religion? Quite a paradox you've created there, Reba.
I'm no better than anyone, and I'm a lot worse than many. If anyone is doing any "creating", it's you.
 
I don't think he "worships" a prophet but it's up to him to say. Why don't you let him speak for himself? He's a big boy.

He is welcome to join in anytime however, he is a college student. He doesn't have time to deal with you each time you make a tirade.

No, he is a sinner because everyone is a sinner, myself included. We are all sinners, no more, no less.

If everyone sinned, then there would be no Heaven, only Hell. Think about what you're trying to get across to me.
I don't "condemn" him. I hold no ill feelings towards him, or you, for that matter. I don't wish eternal condemnation on anyone.

Really? This from the woman who tried to force that ficitious "Jesus is God" crap down Yiffy's throat.
I can't "force" anyone to believe; it's the responsibility of the Holy Spirit to convict hearts.

And who is the holy spirit?
How do you know what God likes?

Because it is stated in the bible both OT and NT, God likes it when everyone can get along and accept each other's beliefs. On the other hand, you are not doing a great job at that.

I'm no better than anyone, and I'm a lot worse than many. If anyone is doing any "creating", it's you.

What have I created? I am only a mortal man.

Be Well.
 
He is welcome to join in anytime however, he is a college student. He doesn't have time to deal with you each time you make a tirade.



If everyone sinned, then there would be no Heaven, only Hell. Think about what you're trying to get across to me.


Really? This from the woman who tried to force that ficitious "Jesus is God" crap down Yiffy's throat.


And who is the holy spirit?


Because it is stated in the bible both OT and NT, God likes it when everyone can get along and accept each other's beliefs. On the other hand, you are not doing a great job at that.



What have I created? I am only a mortal man.

Be Well.

If you read Bible then you will understand better. You said who is the Holy Spirit? You can read My thread who is God?
 
I wasn't talking about anyone surrendering pride to Christians. I'm talking about surrendering pride to Jesus.

If you were given the choice, who would you pray to first? God or Jesus? Just say either God or Jesus. No explanation necessary. Just wondering. There is no ill fate against you. :)
 
If you were given the choice, who would you pray to first? God or Jesus? Just say either God or Jesus. No explanation necessary. Just wondering. There is no ill fate against you. :)

You confused what you said God or Jesus??? Jesus Christ is God!
 
The Holy Spirit is not Jesus that's all I know.

Be well.

Holy Spirit, Father and Jesus Christ (son) =Trinity, you have freezing ice, hot water & tap water all 3 into 1 thing. Jesus is REIGN! in the heaven now.

Holy Spirit, Father and Son become one!
King of Kings and Lord of Lords Revelation 19:16
 
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