Who is God?

[EagleCherokee63]

I read those message and all post.

I do know EagleCherokee63 in real life. Sometime you need read and re-read and type and re-type before you post this message. I read the message; you just can't shove the bible up their mind without explain or understand. If I talk something that you don't understand and do you like me talk like what you did to several who doesn't understand or get your point or you are taking too serious. You might feel insult.

Animal Lover, I understand that you might not understand or try understand the point from Bible of God living. It's matter about live after the death that where you will lead into heaven or the hell. It not mean you will live and feel waste. I don't know how "feel" wonderful being in heaven but all I know its peace without deal with pain or sickness.

What EagleCherokee63 mean that you will be sorry which she shouldn't post this message.

The Bible did mention about where we will go after our death and then the second death. If you or we follow the God's life and follow the awesome life wisdom that God can provide you.

Jesus is the way heaven but without Jesus. It is all the lost.

Let the picture with story what Jesus and God is about.
God is your court date when the something have happen to you.
Jesus is your lawyer to protection you.
You are the Life.

Sometime people said, God love everyone and thinks or believe they are going to heaven. God is one who will judge for who believe in Jesus's name. It shall live your life forever.

BE CAUTION! If you want Heaven and then practice be alike what Jesus do. For example; do you see any bible word that Jesus said the swear or cussing in bad word?

Some people said about gay and leb. that God hate them. It is not true, God love everyone of you all. However; He can't accept your sin. If you are looking for proof about gay and leb, it have another word immortal sexual mean same sex or opposite sex.

The big REASON God sent Jesus on Earth because He wants everyone know He love you all. He give you the freewill mean your choice without any Nature of Force. If person doing force and pushy you by after said NO. They have show respect your wish. God knows whenever people go Heaven and Hell before "WE" born.

If you do not want live and then you will go to hell. You choice to disagree or not believe in God. However; He and we still love you. We do want see you into his Kingdom where all no pain, no fight, and no hungry. No more being search hard time to find jobs from different state and work don't want Deaf. God want DEAF mean you too!

We are here for temporary and test out faith.

The Bible is God words that help us better life with Lord. It include our behave or act. God is all purpose we are here for and God didn't say, "oop! I didn't mean you be girl/boy." There are no mistake...

If you want know more and feel free and add more this post. If you disagree, I respect your word but I suggest look the Bible, there are website www.gatewaybible.com.

Final comment---

I do not personally like to see who people post in bible script without explain what people try to understand and said too bad. I do believe with support and love to comfortable and kindness to shoulder to shoulder and work together.

May the God bless your day, hour, minute and second.

Praise the Lord! It is fine to post in here, but it is not right to make judgment against me and be pride yourself! Everyone have different opinion.

This is for everyone share posting about the issue "Who is God" rather than attacking on a person. It is important to share the gospel of Jesus Christ on this thread. Yes, we knew each other for a long time, but remember this is for people who don't understand about God's will. For example, if those people do not believe or understand about God then I don't have to answer it. That is really depending on each individuals. Just pray for them. If someone is interesting to share about the Jesus Christ then I can be open to share one another. Do you understand what I mean?

Ideafspy, "I read the message; you just can't shove the bible up their mind without explain or understand." Something you have a different view in here.

Let me share with you. This is where I am serving the Lord to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is not the way to forcing or shoving them into their minds. It does not work that way. It is between a person and God communicating each other in their heart when sharing one another. When Jesus going up to the sky and went away. There were 500 people witnessed it when 2 angels came back down and told those people to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ!! We cannot stopped doing that for the Lord. That is why I loved to served the Lord daily and pray for those people who don't understand. One night, I was dreaming and was shocked to see Jesus came to me. I saw something in his hands with a very beautiful crown on his purple pillow. I woke up really quick and I have seen through Him!! Then it disappeared!! I was really shocked to myself and went to see my former pastor. He was exciting to hear my testimony and he was smiling at me!! I asked him what were you smiling about? He said that God was calling me to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I told my former pastor that I did not know what to do, but with a knowledge about the Bible itself!!! That is when my former pastor taught me in his class for 2 months. He was so exciting to be able teaching me in his class. He was crying and hugging at me!!!

 

[EagleCherokee63]

EaglesCherokee...that is exactly what I agree with and been trying to say to u. I believe in what Cloggy had to say.

Praise the Lord! When Cloggy shared in here with a good information. This is the part I don't know about it.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Isnt this the point of this forum...to discuss our different opinions? It seems that u want all of us to see or discuss things your way. From my understanding, nobody is playing a game..just simply debating on the topic of God. Of course religion will be brought up since God and religion go hand on hand.

If someone brought up about pizza, then that would make sense. LOL!

The reason was because on this thread is about "Who is God" issues, but with another title brought in by Cloggy "The Gospel of Philip" should be in another thread. Do you see why it has the conflict in this thread? I just don't want the people get confused in this thread. Thanks for you understanding.

 

[Cloggy]

Please focus about God. Dont play game this!

No game, the focus is on god.!!

You ask "Who is God" and that's what this thread is all about...

 

[EagleCherokee63]

No game, the focus is on god.!!

You ask "Who is God" and that's what this thread is all about...

Ok, Why you said on #127? christlovedeaf #134, He asked you there.

 

[Cloggy]

Strange, since I tried to reply twice from cloggys post, but not succeeded. So cloggy, if you didn't think Jesus, moses, elijah doesn't exist. Was philip exist? If so, why?

The sciptures are not by Philip, they are according to Philip. Like "The gospel of Mary Magdelene" is written from her point of view. Not by her.

 

[Cloggy]

The reason was because on this thread is about "Who is God" issues, but with another title brought in by Cloggy "The Gospel of Philip" should be in another thread. Do you see why it has the conflict in this thread? I just don't want the people get confused in this thread. Thanks for you understanding.

The gospel of Philip is a long tex, this was just a part of it.
The idea is to think about the text. Not to take it literally.
When you think about it, you can imagine that since men is creating their gods, then the gods come from the inside. God is inside you and shows when you it comes from you... It shows when compassion is shown, love is shown....
SO... that part was definitely about "Who God Is"

 

[Cloggy]

Oh, you think that it is myth of Mary to give birth of Jesus while she was a virgin, eh ?................

God-men being born from virgins is a common subject throughout the classic history. It was used by the early christians / Gnostics to explain the spirituality.
Later, the myth was taken literally.

But all of these scriptures and other documents are written by man, in order to honor their spirituality, in order to explain the myths...

Do you believe that ?
................

What's not to believe. Many scriptures were written in those times. Allmost all of them have been destroyed by order of the church.
Fortunately, some have been found almost 2000 years later. (Have a look here... The Nag Hammadi Gnostic Library.)

Think about this...
What was Christs view towards women...
What was the churches view....
Compare those... and explain how that church can be christian....

This little example shows that God is not in the bible. The bible is made by men, in their advantage. (That's why Mary Magdalene was transformed from honoured apostel by christ to hore by the men in power....) It can never be the word of god, or christ.
God is YOU

 

[christlovedeaf]

God-men being born from virgins is a common subject throughout the classic history. It was used by the early christians / Gnostics to explain the spirituality.
Later, the myth was taken literally.

What's not to believe. Many scriptures were written in those times. Allmost all of them have been destroyed by order of the church.
Fortunately, some have been found almost 2000 years later. (Have a look here... The Nag Hammadi Gnostic Library.)

Think about this...
What was Christs view towards women...
What was the churches view....
Compare those... and explain how that church can be christian....

This little example shows that God is not in the bible. The bible is made by men, in their advantage. (That's why Mary Magdalene was transformed from honoured apostel by christ to hore by the men in power....) It can never be the word of god, or christ.
God is YOU

I know exactly what you mean. Yet, facts still alive. But only few find them, most couldn't. Yes, like Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, most is been written what they witnessed and that's the time when their eyes were opened and tranformed completely the day of the Pentecost. Now, as for Paul, he does have temper problem, but yet, God didn't draw the line on him, why? Bec God sees the desire of knowing Him(God). Paul suffered consequences which so called he learned the same medicine. So, yes, I remember, at Sunday School, by taught by saying notice in the Scriptures men has more responsiblities than men. But I point out, its bec women in those days does not have freedom like today. As in todays women cultures in America spun out of control and dominate. Now, there is nothing wrong with women taking positions, but timidating men is the problem. For sure Paul would write several verses forwhat women should acts. Many marriages has problem when women takes over power over men. Haha, again, Little House on the Prairies always has a good example, in the Oleson Family, who took over? Harriet and her husband suffered. Like Paul said women should be quiet in church, what Paul meant is bec Timothy been having problem with women bragging about their expensive clothes, gossiping and etc. Also, Paul haf a big disagreement with Barnabas bec of John Mark's returning. Did God in Paul's side? No. God shows his weaknesses as much as Barnabas, bec God using Barnabas likewise. They made peace together again afterward. Right, there is nothing new, there are many people thinking they are god themselves. We worship God who created, but you made god yourself. Now, there are Philip in the Bible who practicing magic and saw Paul preached, many listened to Paul so, Philip playing game by claiming he wants Jesus, but Paul rebuked him and knowing Philip doing it for money and brainwashed people. Jesus very respectful for women and so much "equirer" of today to tainted about Jesus and Mary Magdalene. For sure, Jesus left these women responsiblities to set in godly example. Many women in those days were mistreated. The problem is this, what is the meaning of the "Gospel"? I have a problem with how they use the word gospel. Gospel is not just about talking about it or who wrote, true meaning of Gospel meant, Good News and that Good News about Salvation. Like Philip, very obvious it isn't the gospel.

 

[Reba]

...Think about this...
What was Christs view towards women...
What was the churches view....
Compare those... and explain how that church can be christian....

This little example shows that God is not in the bible. The bible is made by men, in their advantage. (That's why Mary Magdalene was transformed from honoured apostel by christ to hore by the men in power....) It can never be the word of god, or christ....

Jesus showed respect and concern for women, as did His apostles.
His salvation was offered equally to men and women.
He healed men and women equally.
He, and His apostles, frequently reminded Christians to take care of the widows and orphans.
Jesus and His apostles stressed the importance of faithfulness in monogamous marriage, which was a protection for the women.
The Bible gives many examples of women faithful to God.

How does the Bible give men an "advantage?"

How was Mary Magdalene "transformed" to a whore? She was a whore before Jesus saved her. Then, she became a faithful follower. She was saved from and out of whoredom, and into a blessed Christian life. What's wrong with that? I think you have the story backwards.

Which "church" view do you mean? Do you mean a specific religion or denomination?

If I compare Christ's view of women, and my church's view of women, then they are the same. So, my church is Christian.

How does that show God is not in the Bible? I don't think you've done your homework.

 

[Cloggy]

...................How was Mary Magdalene "transformed" to a whore? She was a whore before Jesus saved her. Then, she became a faithful follower. She was saved from and out of whoredom, and into a blessed Christian life. What's wrong with that? I think you have the story backwards.
...........

Well, with a church ruled by men, a woman in a favoured position by the person after which the church is named.... would have POWER.
So in order to deminish that power, one starts to paint a black picture....

Tradition as early as the 3rd century (Hippolytus, in his Commentary on Song of Songs) identifies Mary Magdalene with Mary of Bethany and the woman sinner, who anointed Jesus's feet. The latter person can be found in Luke 7:36-50:

"And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, and stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment."

Anthony Frederick Augustus Sandys. Mary Magdalene. Ca. 1860.Though the woman remains unnamed, she is identified with Mary of Bethany, the sister of Martha and the resurrected Lazarus (Luke 10:38-42 and John 1:10), as John 11:1-2 says:

"Now there was a certain man sick, named Lazarus, of Bethania, of the town of Mary and Martha her sister. And Mary was she that anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair: whose brother Lazarus was sick.
The identification of Mary Magdalene with Mary of Bethany, also led to her being identified with "the woman who was a sinner". Church fathers of the 3rd and 4th centuries considered this sin as "being unchaste". In an influential sermon in 591, Pope Gregory I identified her as a sinner ('peccatrix') who repented upon meeting Jesus, but he did not call her a prostitute ('meretrix'). That was a folk belief that arose later and many writers and artists have followed it until the 20th century. The traditional Roman Catholic feast day dedicated to Mary Madgalene celebrated her position as a penitent. This was changed in 1969, with the revision of the Roman Missal and the Roman Calendar, and now there is no mention in either of Mary Magdalene the sinner (Catholic Online). (Wikipedia)

So, You "knowing that she was a sinner" comes from it being fed to you. Jesus never implied it in the myth. It's the men in power that whispered it in the ears of the "believers" and after a while, honouring her would be a crime.....

Christ saw women as equals, with equal rights.
The church looked down at women, gave them no rights..
AGAIN... how can such a church call itself Christian.

How many female popes do you know??

 

[Dark-Half]

God-men being born from virgins is a common subject throughout the classic history. It was used by the early christians / Gnostics to explain the spirituality.
Later, the myth was taken literally.

What's not to believe. Many scriptures were written in those times. Allmost all of them have been destroyed by order of the church.
Fortunately, some have been found almost 2000 years later. (Have a look here... The Nag Hammadi Gnostic Library.)

Think about this...
What was Christs view towards women...
What was the churches view....
Compare those... and explain how that church can be christian....

This little example shows that God is not in the bible. The bible is made by men, in their advantage. (That's why Mary Magdalene was transformed from honoured apostel by christ to hore by the men in power....) It can never be the word of god, or christ.
God is YOU

Lmfao, cloggy gets it. Gold star for cloggy. This is pretty much what I was saying when I said I am God in german. I'm suprised nobody really caught on to my reasoning of it.

 

[Reba]

Well, with a church ruled by men...

Our church isn't "ruled by men". Christ is the Head of our church. The pastoral staff are His servants.

...a woman in a favoured position by the person after which the church is named.... would have POWER.

In Christ there is no favoritism. No human in Christ has power, except the power of the Holy Spirit, which is in every Christian.

So in order to deminish that power, one starts to paint a black picture....

NA; refer to above answer. There is no way to diminish the power of the Holy Spirit by an outside source.

What "black picture" are you talking about?

So, You "knowing that she was a sinner" comes from it being fed to you.

Every one is a sinner. Mary Magdalene wasn't exempt.

Jesus never implied it in the myth.

Nothing that Jesus said or did in the Bible is "myth." But it does seem that you are making up "stories" yourself.

It's the men in power that whispered it in the ears of the "believers" and after a while, honouring her would be a crime.....

Christians don't worship or honor other Christians above the rest, period. It doesn't matter if they're male or female. Worshiping any man or woman is a sin but not a "crime" in the secular sense.

Christ saw women as equals, with equal rights.
The church looked down at women, gave them no rights...

Which equal rights in Christ do women not have? We are saved equally, we are forgiven equally, and we get the same eternal life and Holy Spirit.

I don't know any one at my church "looking down" on women. There is nothing in our church constitution that supports men looking down on women.

AGAIN... how can such a church call itself Christian.

If there is a church doing that, then they need to examine their hearts and get right.

How many female popes do you know??

Historically, I've read that there might have been one.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope Joan

However, I'm not Catholic, and I don't follow a Pope, male or female, so whatever the Catholic Church does in their organization doesn't apply to me.

That is irrelevant to the topic.

 

[mecooncat]

There's several female bishops or priests in this world. In my state, there is one GAY Bishshop McCormick. He's the first gay bishop and they let him IN. Sadly, I don't agree with that.

 

[Cloggy]

Our church isn't "ruled by men". Christ is the Head of our church. The pastoral staff are His servants.



In Christ there is no favoritism. No human in Christ has power, except the power of the Holy Spirit, which is in every Christian.



NA; refer to above answer. There is no way to diminish the power of the Holy Spirit by an outside source.

What "black picture" are you talking about?



Every one is a sinner. Mary Magdalene wasn't exempt.


Nothing that Jesus said or did in the Bible is "myth." But it does seem that you are making up "stories" yourself.


Christians don't worship or honor other Christians above the rest, period. It doesn't matter if they're male or female. Worshiping any man or woman is a sin but not a "crime" in the secular sense.



Which equal rights in Christ do women not have? We are saved equally, we are forgiven equally, and we get the same eternal life and Holy Spirit.

I don't know any one at my church "looking down" on women. There is nothing in our church constitution that supports men looking down on women.



If there is a church doing that, then they need to examine their hearts and get right.



Historically, I've read that there might have been one.
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Pope Joan

However, I'm not Catholic, and I don't follow a Pope, male or female, so whatever the Catholic Church does in their organization doesn't apply to me.

That is irrelevant to the topic.

Doesn't it suck when theory and practice are 180 degrees apart.....!!!!

 

[Reba]

Doesn't it suck when theory and practice are 180 degrees apart.....!!!!

I suppose.

At our church, theory and practice are the same.

 

[Maria]

Lmfao, cloggy gets it. Gold star for cloggy. This is pretty much what I was saying when I said I am God in german. I'm suprised nobody really caught on to my reasoning of it.

In reality check spiritually, no man on earth is really God, except Jesus Himself is really God. He had the power to leave Heaven to come down on this earth to born and became flesh. Where were you from BEFORE you were born ? No one knew you before you were born. Your name wasn't accounted before you were born.

Jesus' Name was accounted before He was born. People in His Ancient Time knew who He was before He was born. That's 2 different things in between humans and Jesus Himself who is God. There's no comparison, young lad.

 

[WhiteWolves64]

How you can enter in Heaven? I show you here,

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was found written in the Book of Life was
cast into the lake of fire.




There's a mistake to quote this.... it should be "And whosoever was NOT found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire."

You better check your quote twice before submit this posting.... That's all i am saying....

 

[Cloggy]

In reality check spiritually, no man on earth is really God, except Jesus Himself is really God. He had the power to leave Heaven to come down on this earth to born and became flesh. Where were you from BEFORE you were born ? No one knew you before you were born. Your name wasn't accounted before you were born.

Jesus' Name was accounted before He was born. People in His Ancient Time knew who He was before He was born. That's 2 different things in between humans and Jesus Himself who is God. There's no comparison, young lad.

Actually, there's a lot of evidence that as spitits we have multiple "lives" here on earth.
Have a look around you. Some people can be viewed as young spirits. Some as old spirits.
Lotte, I can see she's a really old spirit. Been around on this world numerous times. Needed to live a life as a child born deaf, and we feel fortunate that she chose this family to do this.

So, everyone has allready had experiences on this earth. Everyone is here to learn more and more. New experiences...

So, "Your name wasn't accounted before you were born." is based on.... what??

 

[Reba]

Actually, there's a lot of evidence that as spitits we have multiple "lives" here on earth.
Have a look around you. Some people can be viewed as young spirits. Some as old spirits.
Lotte, I can see she's a really old spirit. Been around on this world numerous times. Needed to live a life as a child born deaf, and we feel fortunate that she chose this family to do this.

So, everyone has allready had experiences on this earth. Everyone is here to learn more and more. New experiences...

You believe that, and yet you say the Bible is "myths"?

Whoa! :jaw: