Who is God?

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CyberRed said:
And, also you have to remember that Christians must agree the same as what Father, Son and the Holy Spirit agreed - all in ONE - the SAME accordance.. meanin' His Words only. It gives the SAME picture about John 15:1-11.
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The holy trinity was decided upon around 325.... It was a discussed there if jesus was just a remarkable man or holy .....

Again, men making religion... No facts, just interpretation....
 
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I'm getting at what you are saying about the tree. What is happening today is no difference as it happened in Jeremiah's time. Many believed religious leaders (they were compromising the world's views) than they believed in Jeremiah and they want him dead. And what happen? Jeremiah was right that Babylonians actually attacked Judah and Israel. Thru the years there are many religions, like today, many more like egyptians or babylonians or greeks to believed than for the jews/christians. As Jesus mentioned about the tree has nothing to do with religions. Its a symbolic of our life as a branch and Jesus is the Vine/Trunk. Those who are not IN HIM (Jesus) will be cast out, He doesn't meant permanentlu, He meant the position you are in right now. God, the Father pruned to bear more fruits, which He meant, when we are in Christ and not do accordingly, we will be chastine/discipline so we can deal with it to become more like Him. Who said Jesus was born in Dec 25? I don't believe that. Myth about Jesus was born a virgin? Who said its a myth? The word Trinity was made up later in time, the reason the identity of God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, Triple Unity equal One God. That's how they use that word Trinity. Have to look at the history more and more what reason have different religion. We can't just puffed it up whatever we believe is ok. Yes, we make choices, but have to find the truth and the purpose what God is saying. About the Bible, so much misunderstaning what is the Bible. Does not made up by men, if so, then Moses was a liar, Jeremiah was a liar, Daniel was a liar, Jesus was a liar, disciples was aliar and etc. There is so much misconceptions of the view what the Bible is about and how it was written and etc. Like Quaran, there's nothing matched the OT. NT and OT in the Bible summed up together and Jesus point out the purpose of the OT and what OT fullfilled the NT, but few is yet to come for the end times. We are living in Grace generation or say church age. It will end soon, how soon? Noone knows just like people are acting toward Noah. God called us to share His love, not stuffed someone's throats. I know, some christians do, they do that to me too, but that doesn't mean I gave up and follow others. I have studied and experiencing many people behavior and even seeeing what I personally need to adjust. God has no favorites, God works in a person's life and reveal what a person must adjust only for those who are in Christ. God Himself knows the hearts than people know themselves. He is love and He does everyway He can to bring them to Himself. But many chose the other way and do their own things and beliefs and rely on something else what "make sense" to them.
 
christlovedeaf said:
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About the Bible, so much misunderstaning what is the Bible. Does not made up by men, if so, then Moses was a liar, Jeremiah was a liar, Daniel was a liar, Jesus was a liar, disciples was aliar and etc. ........
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Those people never existed. They are part of a long myth, told by people in generations, and finally recorded.
All the characters are fictional. They play a role in the spiritual story that explains things unknown, and are used as examples for how to behave.

All the tribes in the OT are fictional in order to crete a sense of history. All the stories are created to unite people. In old times, this was essential for the tribes.
Taking all these stories literally is missing the story behind it. The story about the spiritual journey.
 
Cloggy said:
...All the tribes in the OT are fictional in order to crete a sense of history.
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That must be a news flash for their descendents who are alive today.

All the stories are created to unite people. In old times, this was essential for the tribes. ...
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But you just said the tribes were fictional. So how could anything be "essential" for tribes that didn't even exist (according to you)?
 
Sorry, should have said "history of the tribes"... still, OT is the key word.
 
The Gospel of Philip

That is the way it is in the world - men make gods and worship their creation.
It would be fitting for the gods to worship men!

--The Gospel of Philip—​
 
Cloggy said:
That is the way it is in the world - men make gods and worship their creation.
It would be fitting for the gods to worship men!

--The Gospel of Philip—​
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LOL. Maybe I can get God to worship me.
 
Cloggy said:
That is the way it is in the world - men make gods and worship their creation.
It would be fitting for the gods to worship men!

--The Gospel of Philip—​
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Please focus about God. Dont play game this!
 
Strange, since I tried to reply twice from cloggys post, but not succeeded. So cloggy, if you didn't think Jesus, moses, elijah doesn't exist. Was philip exist? If so, why?
 
Cloggy said:
Words, written by men. Moving from one branch to the other, religions transcending into another.

Islam drawing from the bible, the new testament getting their stories from the Gnostics and Jews, that got them from the Greeks and Egyptions... Same stories, different wrapping.

The stories are good and give excellent guidence. But they are just that. Guidence. They are not the word of god.

The problems start when people believe that their god is the one and only. Blindfolded by stories written centuries ago. People that need to see evidence on almost everything, in life, court etc, and then swear on a book that requires no proof at all. (I know, it's FAITH.)

Go on, explore the branches and see what's on the other side of the trunk.

What is inside you, going out. THAT's the real God. That's the tree. And it is shared in all of us. All of us connected by that One tree....
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EaglesCherokee...that is exactly what I agree with and been trying to say to u. I believe in what Cloggy had to say.
 
Cloggy said:
The holy trinity was decided upon around 325.... It was a discussed there if jesus was just a remarkable man or holy .....

Again, men making religion... No facts, just interpretation....
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Thank u! My thoughts exactly! :)
 
EagleCherokee63 said:
Please focus about God. Dont play game this!
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Isnt this the point of this forum...to discuss our different opinions? It seems that u want all of us to see or discuss things your way. From my understanding, nobody is playing a game..just simply debating on the topic of God. Of course religion will be brought up since God and religion go hand on hand.

If someone brought up about pizza, then that would make sense. LOL!
 
Cloggy said:
These scriptures apply to all religions.
It's all from the same tree. People moving from one branch to another, Branches fall away, new ones grow... fed by the residue of the old ones, sometimes by the juices of the old ones.

I would have to say that I don't agree with you about " all religions ". I don't believe that " all religions " should go by hand in hand all together just like " ecumenical ". That's " prostitution " in the eyes of God and that's " blamsphey "( sp ? ) in the eyes of God. Why should Muslim start their war against Christians by terrorizin' them ? I have NEVER seen Christians start their war against Muslim by terrorizin' them. And, even in Catholic's history - they killed Christians, too. Why Catholic ? I don't believe in ecumenical thing when they believe ALL the religions should go by hand in hand --- oh, just because, they are sayin' that they ALL believe in the SAME God. Gee - that's like one or another religion is engagin' other religions just like prostitute did. Jesus is talkin' about " His Church ", His Bride - not sleepin' around with many different churches as many brides ( different religions ). If, you had a child - you would discipline/or train your child to follow your rules, so this way your child will obey you to avoid serious consequences, right ? And, that your child will grow up the same steps you expect him/her to follow. It's the same way Jesus expect His children and He disciplines them to grow up to follow Him spiritually. All the branches must be all the same belief since that Vine/Tree is one body, the One who teaches, ministers, and all through the Words of God Himself, not from other different god/or gods that don't follow the same as He.

In 600 CE, the muslims were drawing from the new testament and created Islam, in 300 CE documents were chosen that fitted best for a christian church. Documents written amongst others by Gnostics that wrote down their spiritual journey in order to explain it to common people. Myths that were allready know for 1000's years.. like the myth of a man, born from a virgin, on 25th december, having healing powers, dying on a cross, resurected after his death.... A myth know long before the year 0.

Oh, you think that it is myth of Mary to give birth of Jesus while she was a virgin, eh ?

But all of these scriptures and other documents are written by man, in order to honor their spirituality, in order to explain the myths...

Do you believe that ?

If you believe the scriptures officially part of the bible, you should also believe the scriptures written in the same time, and even before but not taken into account when the bible was assembled. The gospel of Mary Magdelene, the gospel of Judas....
All stories, all interpretations of the same myth.... All from the same tree.
The God inside you.... coming from inside out. Not a god coming from the outside in!!

Then how do YOU explain about when a person is born-again ? He or she MUST confess his or her sins and repent by ACCEPTIN' Jesus Christ to come in their heart. The Holy Spirit started movin' in once he or she accepts Jesus Christ. That means He COMES IN to that person's life to help changin' his/her life as a NEW person or creature. I am talkin' about spiritually.

Isn't it amazing that such high focus is put on proof. In daily life, in the courhouse, and still, when swearing to tell the truth people put their hand on on of the most fictonal pieces of paper ever written. Swearing on sometinh that has no proof whatsoever. (I know.... it's faith..)
Now, swearing on your wife's (lovers) life!!! that would be something...
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The Bible is NOT a fiction or myth like you would like to believe. Of course, you knew about " faith " ..but, still there's NEVER fiction or myth involved, because there is N O N E -- maybe, in the ears/or eyes of people, but not God's ! God knows the difference in between black and white ... or the truth and lies. People don't know the difference in between black and white .. or the truth and lies. Some people are " Thomases " one of Jesus Christ's disciples, the doubter or I would say they prefer to believe in myth without seein' to proof.
 
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