Who is God?

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Cloggy said:
Sure.... how about this then....



Some loving god !!

Sounds to me like a different branch on the same tree.

If there is only 1 god.... he's the tree.
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Cloggy, what bible book are you reading?

I got this from KJV Deut. 13;7-11--read this because it don't match your verses.


[7] Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
[8] Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
[9] But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
[10] And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
[11] And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.


This is Moses talking..and he was referring to other gods or false gods.
 
Meno, cloggy use translations is the same meaning what you gave. Bur cloggy didn't read the rest what's it all about. Here's the rest of the story, but will use the verses that you both gave out, and I'm using CEV Deut. 13-----"Someone else may say to you, "Let's worship other gods." That person may be your best friends, your brother or sister, your son or daughter, or your own dear wife or husband. But you must not listen to people to say such things. Instead, you must stone them to death. You must be the first to throw the stones, then others from the community will finish the job. Don't show any pity. (Now, notice the reason why))))...... The gods worshiped by other nations have never done anything for you or your ancestors. People ask you to worship other gods are trying to get you to stop worshiping the Lord, who rescued you from slavery in Egypt. So put to death anyone who asks you to worship another god. And when the rest of Israel hears about it, they will be afraid, and no one else will ever do such an evil thing again." Now, thru the OT, its been repeating, think about Elijah. What happen about proving who is truly God, God who freed hebrews from Egypt or Baal is god? Elijah gave them proof and after that 400 Baal priest/prophets were slained. What is the reaction of Jezebel? Good picture btwn christians/jews and islam. Islam behavior is more like Jezebel. Now, there are many religions like jezebel. Even particular history btwn catholics and protestants during spain war. Have to get the whole history and the background specific person(s) who are responsible for the war and the purpose. But Jesus died for al mankind, but yet many still refuse is no different how people in the OT are doing. Especialy, today is very similar as in Jeremiah's time. Its soooo identical. Jesus provide the way, but many rather do their own thing and their way and the thoughts and that is many think they are better way than Jesus. He is trying everyway possible to bring all of us to be with Him. That is why Jesus looked at Jerusalem wept, bec many many have been decieved.
 
christlovedeaf said:
......... (Now, notice the reason why)...... ..........
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Ah, so, this loving god thinks it's OK to kill as long as it is in his name. All the other gods are rubish, but he is loving....

Again.... some loving god, threatening people that they should be killed when they think for themselves...

You see, same tree, different branch... an older branch perhaps, but still just a branch...
 
If God is a mystery, you are lying to the world when you say that you know Him. He wants to be known, it is your enemy who does not want God to be known to you and human beings.

"Take heed to yourselves that your hearts be not deceived and you turn aside, and serve other gods; worship them." (Deut. 11:26)

The most important question of all questions that one could ask is, "Who is God?" It is like a child who does not know his father asking his mother to tell him the name of his father, wanting to know what his father looks like and if he favors his father. Can you not ask the same question who are seeking the knowledge of Father, God? Should you be called disbeliever's or infidels, just because you seek the truth or knowledge of Father, God? The mother may, in some cases, think it best to keep the name of her child a secret, as it was in the case of Mary and Joseph, thousand years ago. But, in the case of God, one would say that you all should know Him, but at the proper time.
 
XBGMER said:
If God is a mystery, you are lying to the world when you say that you know Him. He wants to be known, it is your enemy who does not want God to be known to you and human beings.

"Take heed to yourselves that your hearts be not deceived and you turn aside, and serve other gods; worship them." (Deut. 11:26)

The most important question of all questions that one could ask is, "Who is God?" It is like a child who does not know his father asking his mother to tell him the name of his father, wanting to know what his father looks like and if he favors his father. Can you not ask the same question who are seeking the knowledge of Father, God? Should you be called disbeliever's or infidels, just because you seek the truth or knowledge of Father, God? The mother may, in some cases, think it best to keep the name of her child a secret, as it was in the case of Mary and Joseph, thousand years ago. But, in the case of God, one would say that you all should know Him, but at the proper time.
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Please do not bashing!!! Or I will report Mods! Thanks Be nice and respect this is my thread. Thank you
 
EagleCherokee63 said:
Please do not bashing about this, just focus on who is really God himself. I would appreciate to hear about your opinions on this attached I have in here. Please be open minded when we get into the discussion.

Thank you.
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That was exactly what i said. I had previous question ":can you tell me who created the universe"?You were flawless.. I was happy that you answered
 
shel90 said:
For yourself, then that is great if it makes u happy but why should other people believe the same thing as u do? We are all different with different experiences. That was all I am trying to ask..why does everyone have to believe in the same thing? It seems that if we dont have the same beliefs as u do, we are making Satan happy or we will go to hell. I dont agree with it.

I think it makes this world so interesting with all these different beliefs and why people have them. I think it is fascinating. Like with JW..I dont agree with their beliefs but I will respect their beliefs and yes, I am interested in learning why they believe the way they do.

That's all. :)
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shel90, what you said why should other people believe the same thing as you do?

It not point!

I am the gospel to people for Lord's serve. Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
 
Cloggy said:
God, JWH, Allah, Jesus, Tor, Muhammed, Wodan, Dionosys, Isis, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism....

One tree, different branches !!
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Wrong ! Let's read what Jesus said :

John 15:1-11

" I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit, he taketh it away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he cleanseth it, that it may bear more fruit. Already ye are clean because of the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; so neither can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for apart from me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatsoever ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; and [so] shall ye be my disciples. Even as the Father hath loved me, I also have loved you: abide ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father`s commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy may be in you, and [that] your joy may be made full. "

Do these scriptures applied Allah, Tor, Muhammed, Wodan, Dionosys, Isis, Islam and, Hinduism ? I don't think so. Do all these false religions have the same scriptures in their books what Jesus have exactly taught ? I don't think so. It's all about J E S U S, not Allah or Tor or Muhammed or Woden or Dionosys, or Isis or Islam or Hinduism. Jesus is the True Vine and Christians are the branches, the ones who obey Jesus and His Words. He is talkin' about Christians if, they carry the Fruit in Him if, not then He will cut them off.
 
And, also you have to remember that Christians must agree the same as what Father, Son and the Holy Spirit agreed - all in ONE - the SAME accordance.. meanin' His Words only. It gives the SAME picture about John 15:1-11.

John 1:1-5

" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not. "
 
I read those message and all post.

I do know EagleCherokee63 in real life. Sometime you need read and re-read and type and re-type before you post this message. I read the message; you just can't shove the bible up their mind without explain or understand. If I talk something that you don't understand and do you like me talk like what you did to several who doesn't understand or get your point or you are taking too serious. You might feel insult.

Animal Lover, I understand that you might not understand or try understand the point from Bible of God living. It's matter about live after the death that where you will lead into heaven or the hell. It not mean you will live and feel waste. I don't know how "feel" wonderful being in heaven but all I know its peace without deal with pain or sickness.

What EagleCherokee63 mean that you will be sorry which she shouldn't post this message.

The Bible did mention about where we will go after our death and then the second death. If you or we follow the God's life and follow the awesome life wisdom that God can provide you.

Jesus is the way heaven but without Jesus. It is all the lost.

Let the picture with story what Jesus and God is about.
God is your court date when the something have happen to you.
Jesus is your lawyer to protection you.
You are the Life.

Sometime people said, God love everyone and thinks or believe they are going to heaven. God is one who will judge for who believe in Jesus's name. It shall live your life forever.

BE CAUTION! If you want Heaven and then practice be alike what Jesus do. For example; do you see any bible word that Jesus said the swear or cussing in bad word?

Some people said about gay and leb. that God hate them. It is not true, God love everyone of you all. However; He can't accept your sin. If you are looking for proof about gay and leb, it have another word immortal sexual mean same sex or opposite sex.

The big REASON God sent Jesus on Earth because He wants everyone know He love you all. He give you the freewill mean your choice without any Nature of Force. If person doing force and pushy you by after said NO. They have show respect your wish. God knows whenever people go Heaven and Hell before "WE" born.

If you do not want live and then you will go to hell. You choice to disagree or not believe in God. However; He and we still love you. We do want see you into his Kingdom where all no pain, no fight, and no hungry. No more being search hard time to find jobs from different state and work don't want Deaf. God want DEAF mean you too!

We are here for temporary and test out faith.

The Bible is God words that help us better life with Lord. It include our behave or act. God is all purpose we are here for and God didn't say, "oop! I didn't mean you be girl/boy." There are no mistake...

If you want know more and feel free and add more this post. If you disagree, I respect your word but I suggest look the Bible, there are website www.gatewaybible.com.

Final comment---

I do not personally like to see who people post in bible script without explain what people try to understand and said too bad. I do believe with support and love to comfortable and kindness to shoulder to shoulder and work together.

May the God bless your day, hour, minute and second. :type:
 
CyberRed said:
Wrong ! Let's read what Jesus said :

John 15:1-11

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Do these scriptures applied Allah, Tor, Muhammed, Wodan, Dionosys, Isis, Islam and, Hinduism ? I don't think so. Do all these false religions have the same scriptures in their books what Jesus have exactly taught ? I don't think so. It's all about J E S U S, not Allah or Tor or Muhammed or Woden or Dionosys, or Isis or Islam or Hinduism. Jesus is the True Vine and Christians are the branches, the ones who obey Jesus and His Words. He is talkin' about Christians if, they carry the Fruit in Him if, not then He will cut them off.
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Words, written by men. Moving from one branch to the other, religions transcending into another.

Islam drawing from the bible, the new testament getting their stories from the Gnostics and Jews, that got them from the Greeks and Egyptions... Same stories, different wrapping.

The stories are good and give excellent guidence. But they are just that. Guidence. They are not the word of god.

The problems start when people believe that their god is the one and only. Blindfolded by stories written centuries ago. People that need to see evidence on almost everything, in life, court etc, and then swear on a book that requires no proof at all. (I know, it's FAITH.)

Go on, explore the branches and see what's on the other side of the trunk.

What is inside you, going out. THAT's the real God. That's the tree. And it is shared in all of us. All of us connected by that One tree....
 
Sorry for answering twice on the post... Seemed as if the first answer was lost...

CyberRed said:
Wrong ! Let's read what Jesus said :

John 15:1-11
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Do these scriptures applied Allah, Tor, Muhammed, Wodan, Dionosys, Isis, Islam and, Hinduism ? I don't think so. Do all these false religions have the same scriptures in their books what Jesus have exactly taught ? I don't think so. It's all about J E S U S, not Allah or Tor or Muhammed or Woden or Dionosys, or Isis or Islam or Hinduism. Jesus is the True Vine and Christians are the branches, the ones who obey Jesus and His Words. He is talkin' about Christians if, they carry the Fruit in Him if, not then He will cut them off.
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These scriptures apply to all religions.
It's all from the same tree. People moving from one branch to another, Branches fall away, new ones grow... fed by the residue of the old ones, sometimes by the juices of the old ones.
In 600 CE, the muslims were drawing from the new testament and created Islam, in 300 CE documents were chosen that fitted best for a christian church. Documents written amongst others by Gnostics that wrote down their spiritual journey in order to explain it to common people. Myths that were allready know for 1000's years.. like the myth of a man, born from a virgin, on 25th december, having healing powers, dying on a cross, resurected after his death.... A myth know long before the year 0.

But all of these scriptures and other documents are written by man, in order to honor their spirituality, in order to explain the myths...

If you believe the scriptures officially part of the bible, you should also believe the scriptures written in the same time, and even before but not taken into account when the bible was assembled. The gospel of Mary Magdelene, the gospel of Judas....
All stories, all interpretations of the same myth.... All from the same tree.
The God inside you.... coming from inside out. Not a god coming from the outside in!!

Isn't it amazing that such high focus is put on proof. In daily life, in the courhouse, and still, when swearing to tell the truth people put their hand on on of the most fictonal pieces of paper ever written. Swearing on sometinh that has no proof whatsoever. (I know.... it's faith..)
Now, swearing on your wife's (lovers) life!!! that would be something...
 
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