When Freedom Gets the Death Sentence

[sr171soars]

To us, that´s nonsense talk... Why should we including government take their talk serious... ?

None so blind as those who refuse to see...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

"Canadian, Austalian, New Zealand" are "non-Americans" (as in non-USA Americans).

Do you mean that anybody who chooses to live other countries than their own country is non-....? Oh I´m one of them is non-British because I live in Germany.

No, it's not the same.

The USA does have a Social Security problem, and it's getting worse. However, the USA is not yet a socialist state, so we're not as dependent on government support for people as the Germans are.

I´m sorry that I confused you with my post... I doesn´t mean about unemployment rate/rates. I should say that every countries in the world always have the problem instead of same problem...

Yes I aware that German unemployment rate is high than America. I also aware that German birth rate is low in the Europe like what I mentioned in my post #50.

I know that you appreciate scientific "facts", so here they are:

I already said in previous posts I aware that we have problem here in Germany is high unemployment rate and taxes...

Yes your country have the problem... see this link (healthy, unemployment, etc.)

America No. 1?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Our people don't like to be dependent on the government. We prefer independence, free enterprise, and individual choice.

Sadly, too many Americans are beginning to desire the European socialist ways, and want to increase government control. Americans are losing their independent pioneer spirit.

Your people don´t like to be dependent on the government but why your people work to pay tax to government then? What your government do with their people´s tax for?

Why Americans become paraniod on that little things example... 4 years old innoncent child was being suspend at school because of "sexual harrassment", arrest parent for child neglect because they leave their children alone in the house for go to shopping... the owner of shop informed CPS after saw "child abuse" on photo where he developed the photos for his customer and then arrest father of child because father kiss his baby´s belly.... arrest mother for sexual abuse because she bath with toddler... arrest 5 years old with handcuff and going on.... Do you want to insist that your country is freedom and independent?

I often left my sons for one to 2 hours for go to shopping, fitness studio or whatever... The police didn´t charge us for child neglect... Why? because I trust my children´s knowlegde and maturity to leave them for few hours... They only charge if the parent neglect their children in different way... - abuse, etc...

Sure, I´m not saying that Germany is prefect country and accept my knowledge that Germany has also problem, too. There´re ALWAYS have CONS/PROS between our country but I feel that Germany is more free country than America. No offense.

Yes I aware that many Americans want to follow the example of European socialist ways. I have American co-workers here who share their feeling/concern with us... Some Americans live here in Germany permantly.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

None so blind as those who refuse to see...

I choose to be ignorant than being paraniod.

 

[sr171soars]

I choose to be ignorant than being paraniod.

Ah! Interesting response. History is replete with examples of ignorance and its resulting consequences.

FYI - There is a difference in being paranoid and being mindful of current events and trends in the times one lives. History shifts in its "flow" when certain events have a significant impact on it. 9-11 was one such and we will feel that for decades to come. Few will admit it but that was just latest salvo in the "clash of civilizations" between the former Ottoman Empire (Middle East) and the West. If it weren't for the stand (1663) in Vienna centuries ago, Germany would have easily been Islamic today. For those who chose not to know their history are condemned essentially to repeat it again.

Obviously since you prefer to believe the philosophy that "Ignorance is Bliss", I will not waste my time anymore with you on this subject. Have a good day.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Obviously since you prefer to believe the philosophy that "Ignorance is Bliss", I will not waste my time anymore with you on this subject. Have a good day.

Yes, you are right that it´s waste of time to talk about nonsense things... That´s why I ignore nonsense things. If you want to continue to talk about nonsense and still be paraniod then is your choice... I´m person who beleive in facts, con/pros, NOT paraniod, fanastic, imaginable, etc... It´s me. It´s bad if you can´t accept what I am.

Anyway, I also wish you have a good day, too.

 

[Reba]

Ah! Interesting response. History is replete with examples of ignorance and its resulting consequences....

Another example comes to mind. The Germans who lived in the villages outside the Nazi concentration camps. Supposedly, they were "ignorant" of the death camps and the billowing stench from the ovens.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Another example comes to mind. The Germans who lived in the villages outside the Nazi concentration camps. Supposedly, they were "ignorant" of the death camps and the billowing stench from the ovens.

:roll: I thought you know about Nazi's time but your post tell me that you forget quickly how and what the people/victims had through during Nazi time. This is a proof of your ignorant...

Anyway, whatever you think is your problem, not mine. I beleive I did posted about Nazi time in some threads and would not repeat my posts here. If you can't remember my posts in other threads then go to google or search my posts in some threads.

All what I want to say is you don't experienced at Nazi's time but victims/people. We accept and share our good listen on their stories what they had been through because they are real.

This thread, I create is about Muslim, not Nazi... If you want to know more about Nazi then create a new thread or pull old threads to post...

Past history is a fact, not play fanastic and imagable about the future.... and paraniod over that muslim's nonsense's word. I prefer to ignore those nonsense words than take their word serious and become paraniod. The past history is a different because they are facts... I listen, not ignore.

This is a difference.

Again, the way you talk in your post is the proof of your ignorant.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Ohhh double post.

 

[Sunshinelady]

Hi Liebling, (off topic)

Ich möchte Dir net stören, aber nur aufmerksam machen.
Ich habe dir vor letzten Freitag per Email unter PM geschickt. Ich glaube Du erhaltest meine Email nicht oder?

grüssle Sunshinelady

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Hi Liebling, (off topic)

Ich möchte Dir net stören, aber nur aufmerksam machen.
Ich habe dir vor letzten Freitag per Email unter PM geschickt. Ich glaube Du erhaltest meine Email nicht oder?

grüssle Sunshinelady

Entschuldige das, ich deine PM nicht gleich beantworte. Ja ich werde dir heute Mittag gleich antworten.

Ich habe dich nicht vergessen...

Bussi

 

[mecooncat]

I know it's off topic---If my grandfather can remember how to speak in German, he would love to teach me. His grandparents (on his father's side) are from West Prussia (Which is now Germany). They emigrated in 1880s.

 

[Tousi]

Translation, please for #90 and 91.

 

[Reba]

...This thread, I create is about Muslim, not Nazi...

My point was, even when people choose to ignore what is happening, that doesn't make the events go away. You can stand out in the rain and ignore it, and say it's not happening but you'll still be all wet.

Maybe the American government thought Osama was speaking "nonsense" before 9/11, so they just ignored him. Then, POW! We were attacked!

Should Germans ignore the "nonsense" until they are attacked and killed? Or should they pay attention to the "nonsense" and do something to prevent an attack?

Past history is a fact, not play fanastic and imagable about the future.... and paraniod over that muslim's nonsense's word.

It's not fantastic or paranoid. It's fact. Muslim leaders are planning attacks, and inciting their people. Haven't you seen the news reports? Authorities in several countries have caught the Islamic terrorists planning attacks. I've seen and heard the Islamic leaders shouting their threats against America, Christians, Jews, the Pope, Europeans, etc. I've looked at their websites, and read their goals. It is REAL!

I prefer to ignore those nonsense words than take their word serious and become paraniod. The past history is a different because they are facts... I listen, not ignore.

You don't need to be "paranoid" but you should be informed.

Do you really want to wait until an Islamic attack on Germany becomes "history"? It will be too late.

Again, the way you talk in your post is the proof of your ignorant.

Which part was "ignorant"?

 

[Reba]

Translation, please for #90 and 91.

Condensed: Sunshinelady justs wants to know if Liebling got her email/PM last Friday. Liebling replied that she didn't forget about it, she'll send PM later, noon.

I know, it's kind of like hearing people talking in front of Deaf people and not signing.

 

[Hear Again]

Off topic...

Wow Reba! How long have you studied German? I'm impressed!

(By the way, I cheated and used an online language translator to interpret their messages. The only German I know is my name, how to say "Good morning" and how to count from 1-10. LOL!)

Back on topic...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Sorry that we spoke in German to avoid off topic thread here.

Here is translation between Sunshinelady's and my post.

Sunshinelady's post.
I don't want to disturb you here but only want to get your attention. I sent PM via email last Friday. I beleive you receive my email, don't you?

I answered her.
I'm sorry for not reply your PM immediately. Yes I will answer you this noon. I didn't forget you... ciao

 

[Liebling:-)))]

My point was, even when people choose to ignore what is happening, that doesn't make the events go away. You can stand out in the rain and ignore it, and say it's not happening but you'll still be all wet.

Maybe the American government thought Osama was speaking "nonsense" before 9/11, so they just ignored him. Then, POW! We were attacked!

Should Germans ignore the "nonsense" until they are attacked and killed? Or should they pay attention to the "nonsense" and do something to prevent an attack?

Yes we aware that Osama talked a lot but we can't prove that it's him who is responsible for 9/11. I can't say anything until Osama get arrest then... First we blame Saddam and found out that he is not responsible for 9/11 then blame Osama.... That's why I can't say anything yet.

It's not fantastic or paranoid. It's fact. Muslim leaders are planning attacks, and inciting their people. Haven't you seen the news reports? Authorities in several countries have caught the Islamic terrorists planning attacks. I've seen and heard the Islamic leaders shouting their threats against America, Christians, Jews, the Pope, Europeans, etc. I've looked at their websites, and read their goals. It is REAL!

We would take their threaten serious but accord few of your links in your previous posts shown no threaten but talk bad about culture. The people including non-muslims from any countries often talk bad things and against culture from other countries... I have seen it often and ignore it.

You don't need to be "paranoid" but you should be informed.

Yes I am appreicate to get the information about them and then will aware what person they are.

Do you really want to wait until an Islamic attack on Germany becomes "history"? It will be too late.

No, we only take serious when they make their threats.... but their talk... accord your link from your post #57 and #59 is only disgust.

Which part was "ignorant"?

Yes you show yourself is ignorant because I see no excuse for what you did here is use Nazi issues to compare here as an example and forget quickly how/what the people/victims had through in Nazi time.

 

[Reba]

Off topic...

Wow Reba! How long have you studied German? I'm impressed!

(By the way, I cheated and used an online language translator to interpret their messages. The only German I know is my name, how to say "Good morning" and how to count from 1-10. LOL!)

Back on topic...

I only took a year of German in high school, many moons ago.

I used online help, too.