What do you agree that Sex-offender parents pose dilemma for schools?

[Byrdie714]

You got that right Jillio! It is sadly a racial thing at times and social economic statuses.

As for having to call in contributions or whatever else, in a such a fair system why would we need to?

Doesn't hurt to have help from extra friends.

 

[Maria]

*United Nations????

Well, it obviously that you didn't research deep enough to learn somethin' about United Nations.

 

[jillio]

Have you spent time trying to make arrangements for interviews, meetings, trying to collect evidence, testing DNA--which takes time, etc.?

Once you have experience the above, then you will understand that it takes time.

Afterall do you want your lawyer to come prepared or not when you have your day in court?

I would prefer that my lawyer come prepared. However, how prepared that lawyer is most often is dependent upon how much he is being paid. IMO that is the wrong criteria for effective legal defense.

And, your reply validates my claim that the legal system is ineffective.

 

[jillio]

You also have to look at one's record, if they were on probabtion or not, as well as outstanding warrants.

All does add up for additional prison time.

And all of that information can be obtained in a 30 second computer search.

 

[jillio]

Doesn't hurt to have help from extra friends.

Which is simply more support for the unfairness of the justice system.

And who is more likely to have a criminal record? A black man or a white man? The answer is a black man. Is that becasue African Americans are more inherently criminal? No, it is because of the inequities in arrest, prosecution, and conviction between races.

Likewise, madated sentences for crack coacaine and powder cocaine exist regardless of the defendent's prior record. And the mandated minimum for crack cocaine is much higher than the mandated minimum for powder cocaine. That is why the American prison system has been ordred to reduce the sentences, and release thousands, based on inequity in sentencing between the two forms of coacaine.

 

[Byrdie714]

I would prefer that my lawyer come prepared. However, how prepared that lawyer is most often is dependent upon how much he is being paid. IMO that is the wrong criteria for effective legal defense.

And, your reply validates my claim that the legal system is ineffective.

If you don't like the system, then don't get in trouble with the system. It's that simple.

If you have been in trouble witht he system before and don't like it, how would you improve it? (Please use this question on the other thread.)

 

[Byrdie714]

And all of that information can be obtained in a 30 second computer search.

Yes, 30 seconds to a minute to look up one's record. If you also want to know the details, then you would have to go down to the court house, fill out a request with court clerk to pull up the docket, make copies, take it back to the office and have a good reading.

Then if there were witnesses, one has to track down the witnesses, set up an interview. If the witness is willing or not.

All this takes time. A lot of time.

 

[Byrdie714]

Which is simply more support for the unfairness of the justice system.

And who is more likely to have a criminal record? A black man or a white man? The answer is a black man. Is that becasue African Americans are more inherently criminal? No, it is because of the inequities in arrest, prosecution, and conviction between races.

Likewise, madated sentences for crack coacaine and powder cocaine exist regardless of the defendent's prior record. And the mandated minimum for crack cocaine is much higher than the mandated minimum for powder cocaine. That is why the American prison system has been ordred to reduce the sentences, and release thousands, based on inequity in sentencing between the two forms of coacaine.

No it doesn't. If you have a friend that works in a hospital and you know that you are going to have surgery in the said hospital, wouldn't you want your friend to "help you" to alleviate your fears of being in the hospital?

Same concept with the court system. The only thing you will have no control over is the jury.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Why is the brother helping his sister urinate? That should be the responsibility of the parents not the sibling!

A brother helped his sister urinate is not belongs to form of sex offender. He is an innoncent to my eyes. I personally see nothing wrong with helping silbings urinate.

I can see why he was charged with incest and rightfully so.

It´s not just incest but sex offender as well. What a paraniod, *shake my head*

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You also have to look at one's record, if they were on probabtion or not, as well as outstanding warrants.

All does add up for additional prison time.

It´s a feeble excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would suggest you to rent DVD "A time to Kill". Its about racist... Justice system support white mostly than black people.

 

[Byrdie714]

It´s a feeble excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would suggest you to rent DVD "A time to Kill". Its about racist... Justice system support white mostly than black people.

Good movie but that is all it is: a movie.

The system is not racist.

OJ Simpson got a fair trial. Rodney King got a fair trial.

 

[Byrdie714]

A brother helped his sister urinate is not belongs to form of sex offender. He is an innoncent to my eyes. I personally see nothing wrong with helping silbings urinate.



It´s not just incest but sex offender as well. What a paraniod, *shake my head*

The court doesn't look at it that way. The court will ask: why didn't mom/dad help the daughter urinate? Is mom/dad/ shirking their responsibility of being parent?

The problem now a days is that people don't want to be held accountable for their own actions.

The simplest solution is don't break the law.

 

[Angel]

The system is not racist.

OJ Simpson got a fair trial, Rodney King got a fair trial.

That's because George Holliday had a video recorder on hand to tape the beating on March 3, 1991 without the tape, King wouldn't have got a fair trial.

And for OJ Simpson, you think Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman got fair justice? There was so much DNA evidences proved that he was guilty but the cops didn't do procedures properly and one of them lied, Simpson took advantage and beat the system that's why he got away with the murders..

 

[Angel]

I would suggest you to rent DVD "A time to Kill". Its about racist... Justice system support white mostly than black people.

That's one of my fave movie, very sad too.

 

[Byrdie714]

It´s a feeble excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would suggest you to rent DVD "A time to Kill". Its about racist... Justice system support white mostly than black people.

A movie that tells a story about Canton, Mississippi in the 1960's,the Civil Rights era. The court system was merely reflecting America's mood at the time.

To base your opinion of one movie that happend in America during the 1960's on it's court system is ridiculous.

How would you like it if I based my opinion of Germany on "Schindler's List"?

I don't as it merely is a one small snapshot of one's country history.

 

[Byrdie714]

That's because George Holliday had a video recorder on hand to tape the beating on March 3, 1991 without the tape, King wouldn't have got a fair trial.

And for OJ Simpson, you think Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman got fair justice? There was so much DNA evidences proved that he was guilty but the cops didn't do procedures properly and one of them lied, Simpson took advantage and beat the system that's why he got away with the murders..

They got a civil trial and the court ordered OJ to pay the families.

Will they get the money? Probably not.

 

[jillio]

Good movie but that is all it is: a movie.

The system is not racist.

OJ Simpson got a fair trial. Rodney King got a fair trial.

Oh, please! There are so many sociological factors underlying both of those trials that it would take a book to outline them. And you have brought up 2 black men whose trials hardly conform to the norms when you are looking at the trials of black men overall.

If the system is not inherently biased regarding race and SES when it comes to arrest, legal representation, and sentencing, then how is it that you explain that the number of incarcerated black men is far higher than the number of black men in the population as a whole?

 

[jillio]

A movie that tells a story about Canton, Mississippi in the 1960's,the Civil Rights era. The court system was merely reflecting America's mood at the time.

To base your opinion of one movie that happend in America during the 1960's on it's court system is ridiculous.

How would you like it if I based my opinion of Germany on "Schindler's List"?

I don't as it merely is a one small snapshot of one's country history.

To defend your position using O.J.Simpson and Rodney King is the same thing.

 

[jillio]

They got a civil trial and the court ordered OJ to pay the families.

Will they get the money? Probably not.

And how many poor black men do you think would have walked away with no prison sentence and only a civil judgement?

 

[Angel]

To defend your position using O.J.Simpson and Rodney King is the same thing.

:nods: