What do you agree that Sex-offender parents pose dilemma for schools?

[Bear]

No I haven't Shel but since you brought it up, I will be for sure to look for this book. It sounds like something I should really read.

I posted my son's pic, 1. cause I am proud of him, 2. because I was so happy to finally have an updated photo of him, I wanted to share it with others.


BUT 3. was most important of all, I wanted to put a face to the *anonymous kids*. When you see a face, and the sadness and heartbreak that is inevitably on their faces, you cant help but see what our current system is actually doing to them. In other words, it can't be denied. These faces haunt my sleep every night, knowing what these kids go through, and feeling so helpless, not knowing how to help them.

Most people say that places like these are the way to help them, but when they see a photo on what these places truly do to these kids, maybe they will realize that this is not the form of help we had in mind.

 

[Angel]

Does this child look like a criminal to you? Now before you criticize it, please remember that this is the first photo I have had of him in 4 years! He sent this to me today as a christmas photo of him. I know he doesn't look too happy, but would you? Remember, in the place they do not get a Christmas. No presents, no special visits, no phone calls from home. NOTHING!


When everyone talks about these places, it literally breaks my heart, cause to them it is like putting a kid in a camp. These places are nothing like a camp. All kinds of unbelievable things happen to these kids behind bars. You've heard the stories of adult prisons, the same things go on in these places too. They are just kept alot more quiet, because these kids are too ashamed to speak out.

Is this really how we wanna help our kids? This is a face of a child who has faced the kind of life, that others think kids should face. Haunting isnt it?

God Bear, your post made me cry! Ill be back later.

 

[Cheri]

God Bear, your post made me cry!

Yea, the story made my eyes watering.

I bet that made you smile, bear when you received your son picture in the mail today.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am speechless and can´t say any word to say you, Bear... It hurt to see the picture of your son with Xmas tree... It´s very very very sad...

 

[Byrdie714]

Sorry....

Once a sex offender, will always be a sex offender regardless of race, creed, color, orientation, disability or age.

It's been proven that they will re-offend, so therefore the schools have the right to ban sex offenders that are parents from coming onto school property to protect the safety of the children.

 

[Bear]

Sorry....

Once a sex offender, will always be a sex offender regardless of race, creed, color, orientation, disability or age.

It's been proven that they will re-offend, so therefore the schools have the right to ban sex offenders that are parents from coming onto school property to protect the safety of the children.

Byrdie you can comfortably say that now, but there was a time a homosexual would have easily been branded a sex offender just for being close to any child and would have found themselves in jail, innocent or guilty.

I think we need to be a lot more careful with the label *sex offender*. You can be labeled a sex offender then later found innocent through DNA or whatever, but that still doesnt help cause there are many that will still believe that they are sex offenders, even though they have been proven innocent.

We have teachers that have been proven to be innocent, and cannot teach again due to having been accused of it. Also, many sex offenders are now going *underground* because they are finding it harder and harder to live, due to legislations being passed, basically barring them from living almost anywhere.

What people need to understand is, that this is a stigma that follows you around for the rest of your life. Imagine being a child and living with this stigma for the rest of your life. And then get back to me on the attitude that once a sex offender always a sex offender.

 

[Bear]

I am speechless and can´t say any word to say you, Bear... It hurt to see the picture of your son with Xmas tree... It´s very very very sad...

Liebling, I know it does, and that was the point to posting his picture. I want people to see these kids behind all of this. Unfortunately, the only picture I can post is my son's.

Hopefully, this picture alone is enough to make people stop and think about the issues.

 

[LovelyBlkGal]

Does this child look like a criminal to you? Now before you criticize it, please remember that this is the first photo I have had of him in 4 years! He sent this to me today as a christmas photo of him. I know he doesn't look too happy, but would you? Remember, in the place they do not get a Christmas. No presents, no special visits, no phone calls from home. NOTHING!


When everyone talks about these places, it literally breaks my heart, cause to them it is like putting a kid in a camp. These places are nothing like a camp. All kinds of unbelievable things happen to these kids behind bars. You've heard the stories of adult prisons, the same things go on in these places too. They are just kept alot more quiet, because these kids are too ashamed to speak out.

Is this really how we wanna help our kids? This is a face of a child who has faced the kind of life, that others think kids should face. Haunting isnt it?

WOW! ur son is grew up soo fast after last time i see ur son when he was visit with us last 2 year ago am i right?? but it's still break mah heart that he is still in DYS for no reason..just hang in there also i do agree w/you... Also i glad that he is decied (sp) send you pix of him so you will alway remma him in ur heart

 

[Bear]

sis LostPanther you seen my son 3 years ago hon! That was when he was still in the foster home. I know hon it breaks my heart too, you are one of the very few that has had a chance to actually meet little Markie. It's hard to believe that bad things can happen to a kid as sweet as him huh? He will hopefully be out in March.


For those that don't know the timelines for him are.

When he was first taken till now-

1 Year in a foster home that was from 2003 to 2004.-It was during this time that sis LostPanther had the opportunity to meet my son.

6 months in Boy's Village in Wooster- 2004-2004

2 and a half years where he is now-Circleville Juvenile Correctional Facility-2004-2007. And is still there but hopefully getting out in March 2008.

 

[Byrdie714]

sis LostPanther you seen my son 3 years ago hon! That was when he was still in the foster home. I know hon it breaks my heart too, you are one of the very few that has had a chance to actually meet little Markie. It's hard to believe that bad things can happen to a kid as sweet as him huh? He will hopefully be out in March.


For those that don't know the timelines for him are.

When he was first taken till now-

1 Year in a foster home that was from 2003 to 2004.-It was during this time that sis LostPanther had the opportunity to meet my son.

6 months in Boy's Village in Wooster- 2004-2004

2 and a half years where he is now-Circleville Juvenile Correctional Facility-2004-2007. And is still there but hopefully getting out in March 2008.

Why was he taken? Couldn't he have stayed with you?

 

[Bear]

Why was he taken? Couldn't he have stayed with you?

Byrdie if you read the whole topic here you will see my son's story. It is a sad one and also pretty unbelievable that things like this can and DO happen.

 

[Byrdie714]

I went back and skimmed some of the posts and pretty much get the jist of the situation and can only come up with one conclusion: There is your side of the story, their side of the story and the truth.

In my experiences with the court system has been positive, money or no money.

Sorry you feel different about it. :|

 

[Bear]

Ok you can feel what you want to feel. There is nothing I can do about that. But I do know their side of the story *courts* would match up with what I say. I have no reason to lie. After all my son paid his time. INNOCENT or not now didnt he? But yet there are other people that wanna punish him further by *LABELING* him a sex offender. And just hope that someday YOU dont have to go through it. Then it might be your nightmare as well!

 

[Maria]

Aw I am so sorry Bear - I feel sad for this boy and hopefully that he will get out soon!

I am wonderin' if you save all the presents that you couldn't send to your son ? I mean, for his birthday, Christmas and all that ? I know it means alot to him to show that you will not forget him.

Here's my for your son. Hang in there, sweetheart.

 

[Bear]

Thanks Maria and yes, I have saved all presents for him. So that means he has got a lot of opening to do when he gets home. Not only that but none of his clothes will fit him anymore. So the day he comes home we are gonna have to do a massive shopping spree to get him some clothes that fit!

 

[moonflower]

your story make me feel so sad how much your son have been through lot bear
but hopefully he get out in march
i am hopeful for that that you will get your son back smile
HUGS

 

[Angel]

I went back and skimmed some of the posts and pretty much get the jist of the situation and can only come up with one conclusion: There is your side of the story, their side of the story and the truth.

In my experiences with the court system has been positive, money or no money.

Sorry you feel different about it. :|

It may be easy for all of us to say this, when we haven't yet walked a miles in her son's shoes. This is the mother's worst nightmare to see her son in a place like this when he is innocent.

You think everyone gets a fair trial, I would think again if I were you. be very glad it's not you in there.

 

[Sharky99]

Handsome son ya got, Bear... I'm sure he was working hard to surprise ya with a beautiful pic of him beside the Xmas tree... cool...

 

[Cheri]

It may be easy for all of us to say this, when we haven't yet walked a miles in her son's shoes. This is the mother's worst nightmare to see her son in a place like this when he is innocent.

You think everyone gets a fair trial, I would think again if I were you. be very glad it's not you in there.

Agreed!! There are many innocent men and women in prison who are wrongly convicted of sex offenses. There are many false accusations being made toward to those people who are innocent.

just because of your experiences of court system has been positive, it may not be a way that works for everyone, Byrdie714. Don't fool yourself that the court gives everyone a fair justice, the court usual believes the victims with or without evidences. There are a lot of holes in the justice system. I've seen someone was in prison for only 5 years for manslaughter so you tell me is the justice system broken? You decide.

With bear's son he was only 10 years old, he couldn't stand up for himself and fight back. Who would believe a 10 years old? Would you?

 

[Bear]

Agreed!! There are many innocent men and women in prison who are wrongly convicted of sex offenses. There are many false accusations being made toward to those people who are innocent.

just because of your experiences of court system has been positive, it may not be a way that works for everyone, Byrdie714. Don't fool yourself that the court gives everyone a fair justice, the court usual believes the victims with or without evidences. There are a lot of holes in the justice system. I've seen someone was in prison for only 5 years for manslaughter so you tell me is the justice system broken? You decide.

With bear's son he was only 10 years old, he couldn't stand up for himself and fight back. Who would believe a 10 years old? Would you?

Correction Cheri he was 12. And for your's and Angel's support on this. In the telling of my son's story, I had one thought in mind, and that was to wake people up to the injustices done in our juvenile justice system.

I realize there are injustices done in the adult system as well, but adults have BETTER coping mechanisms than these kids do. THE kids need our help more than adults do. At least Adults have a maximum and minimum they can spend. The kids dont even get the priviledge!

I think its outrageous that we can take 12 year old kids, convict them, send them away from their parents, and not even tell them how long they will have to serve for to repay their debt? BUT yewt it happens EVERYDAY in our juvenile justice system.

It's getting ridiculous and stupid! Our children are being criminalized! For god's sake isnt that enough to make people finally stand up and care?

Not only that but the schools are just as bad as the court system! OMG things are going crazy out there and we as a society are sitting down and allowing it to happen? What the hell?

Im not sure if it has ever been posted in here but, there is a story of a 3 or 5 year old cant remember which being suspended from school simply cause he or she hugged the teacher!!!! I ask you since when was it bad for our children to display affection? Are we really wanting teach our children from that age that to show someone love is wrong?

I ask you what are we doing to our CHILDREN? What is the message we want to send them???

Do we really want them labelled as a sex offender?