want to hear your opinions about cochlear implant

I am hearing and I firmly believe that it is not the hearing worlds place to tell Deaf or hearing adults what to do with their bodies or their childrens bodies. Cochlear implants is an invasive procedure and if done even slightly wrong it could cause more bad than good. Also who are hearing people to tell the Deaf world what is bad or not. The decision to get or not get a cochlear implant is up to the person who is Deaf not the indiviguals around them. It is not their body so it should not be their choice and the hearing world definatly needs to stay out of it. WE DO NOT have the right to make decisions for people just because we can hear, big poop. To be honest I think that if I was Deaf I would probably be able to appreciate what beauty there is around me and not be to focused on technology and stuff like that. ASL and the Deaf World is all about visual so I can only imagine how much more beautiful things are without the distraction or noise.
 
WindisMariah said:
I am hearing and I firmly believe that it is not the hearing worlds place to tell Deaf or hearing adults what to do with their bodies or their childrens bodies. Cochlear implants is an invasive procedure and if done even slightly wrong it could cause more bad than good. Also who are hearing people to tell the Deaf world what is bad or not. The decision to get or not get a cochlear implant is up to the person who is Deaf not the indiviguals around them. It is not their body so it should not be their choice and the hearing world definatly needs to stay out of it. WE DO NOT have the right to make decisions for people just because we can hear, big poop. To be honest I think that if I was Deaf I would probably be able to appreciate what beauty there is around me and not be to focused on technology and stuff like that. ASL and the Deaf World is all about visual so I can only imagine how much more beautiful things are without the distraction or noise.
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Hmmm, isn't that awfully hypocritical of you? Aren't you doing exactly what you say not to do -- you are a hearing person telling others on a forum for the deaf what they should or shouldn't do ...
 
GrendelQ said:
Hmmm, isn't that awfully hypocritical of you? Aren't you doing exactly what you say not to do -- you are a hearing person telling others on a forum for the deaf what they should or shouldn't do ...
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I didnt see that in the post??? please point it out?
 
WindisMariah said:
To be honest I think that if I was Deaf I would probably be able to appreciate what beauty there is around me and not be to focused on technology and stuff like that. ASL and the Deaf World is all about visual so I can only imagine how much more beautiful things are without the distraction or noise.
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Point taken, however, ask the members here who have been late-deafened. I don't think they would agree with your statement.

Being deaf is not a bad thing; it is how hearing people treat us that is not always good. :cool2:
 
WindisMariah said:
I To be honest I think that if I was Deaf I would probably be able to appreciate what beauty there is around me and not be to focused on technology and stuff like that. ASL and the Deaf World is all about visual so I can only imagine how much more beautiful things are without the distraction or noise.
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Yeah i totally agree. I got the CI and started to hang around friends i hadn't talked to for a long time. I figured i could pick up where i left off. It turned out that i really didn't like them as much now. They seemed much more superficial and egotistical than i remembered. Arguing over sportscenter, ipads, iphones,cars, etc... Pointless.

I guess when you lose your hearing there is the side effect of becoming a ZEN MASTER. :)
 
WindisMariah said:
I am hearing and I firmly believe that it is not the hearing worlds place to tell Deaf or hearing adults what to do with their bodies or their childrens bodies. Cochlear implants is an invasive procedure and if done even slightly wrong it could cause more bad than good. Also who are hearing people to tell the Deaf world what is bad or not. The decision to get or not get a cochlear implant is up to the person who is Deaf not the indiviguals around them. It is not their body so it should not be their choice and the hearing world definatly needs to stay out of it. WE DO NOT have the right to make decisions for people just because we can hear, big poop. To be honest I think that if I was Deaf I would probably be able to appreciate what beauty there is around me and not be to focused on technology and stuff like that. ASL and the Deaf World is all about visual so I can only imagine how much more beautiful things are without the distraction or noise.
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Deaf people use more technology than anyone. I would be lost without my pager, computer, netbook, Skype if I want to communicate with my hearing children.

And it is sort of romanticizing the Deaf to think we live in silence and beauty.

The Deaf world is not one of silence.
 
Bottesini said:
Deaf people use more technology than anyone. I would be lost without my pager, computer, netbook, Skype if I want to communicate with my hearing children.

And it is sort of romanticizing the Deaf to think we live in silence and beauty.

The Deaf world is not one of silence.
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You have a point about romanticizing the deaf that live in silence and beauty.

However, in another thread I said it was not absurd to use cell phones and computers (because we do!) and any other forms of technology, and did you see the comments after that ?
 
AlleyCat said:
You have a point about romanticizing the deaf that live in silence and beauty.

However, in another thread I said it was not absurd to use cell phones and computers (because we do!) and any other forms of technology, and did you see the comments after that ?
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I don't think so. You don't mean here to drphil? I think he was being sarcastic to the kid who thinks cochlear implants are absurd.

He was pointing out that they are both helpful technology.

Was there another thread that I forgot?
 
posts from hell said:
I didnt see that in the post??? please point it out?
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The incongruity I see here: a hearing ASL1 student newly learning about Deaf culture posts a mini-lecture defining what we (Hearing and Deaf) have a right to do, what is and isn't our place, and what's good or bad while simultaneously saying that hearing people (such as herself) shouldn't tell others what to do and what's good or bad.
 
Bottesini said:
I don't think so. You don't mean here to drphil? I think he was being sarcastic to the kid who thinks cochlear implants are absurd.

He was pointing out that they are both helpful technology.

Was there another thread that I forgot?
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drphil needs to learn to use emoticons (or whatever they're called). :shock::giggle::P:roll::eek3:
 
LoveBlue said:
drphil needs to learn to use emoticons (or whatever they're called). :shock::giggle::P:roll::eek3:
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:hmm: You could be right. :ty: for pointing that out. :cool2: It is a wise woman who perceives the difficulty. :aw:

And off topic, I have a great sense of humor for a person with ASD.:aw: (Doctor told me so.)

Much more qualified than the fired school psychologist who said I can't understand subtle humor. :mad2:

(This was just a demo. drphil has come a long way in a short time .) :applause:
 
Bottesini said:
:hmm: You could be right. :ty: for pointing that out. :cool2: It is a wise woman who perceives the difficulty. :aw:

And off topic, I have a great sense of humor for a person with ASD.:aw: (Doctor told me so.)

Much more qualified than the fired school psychologist who said I can't understand subtle humor. :mad2:

(This was just a demo. drphil has come a long way in a short time .) :applause:
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Yes, he has. With your help and patience. :ty:
 
So it's not okay for someone to voice their opinion on whether a deaf child should be subject to a CI operation whether they choose to or not (which basically is what it is, when it's done at 9 months, a year old, etc.) ?
 
Bottesini said:
I don't think so. You don't mean here to drphil? I think he was being sarcastic to the kid who thinks cochlear implants are absurd.

He was pointing out that they are both helpful technology.

Was there another thread that I forgot?
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Actually, no, he wasn't.
 
AlleyCat said:
So it's not okay for someone to voice their opinion on whether a deaf child should be subject to a CI operation whether they choose to or not (which basically is what it is, when it's done at 9 months, a year old, etc.) ?
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Is it your opinion that it's not ok, or are you asking Botti or someone else that as a question?
 
AlleyCat said:
So it's not okay for someone to voice their opinion on whether a deaf child should be subject to a CI operation whether they choose to or not (which basically is what it is, when it's done at 9 months, a year old, etc.) ?
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It seems like it's an endless cycle when people yell out "What? Am I not allowed to have an opinion?" IF their opinion causes people to have opinion THEMSELVES.

A: "I'm thinking about getting a CI."
B: "I think CIs are stupid."
A: "CIs are not stupid. They can help people! How can you say that?"
B: "What? am I not allowed to have an opinion?"
A: "What? am I not allowed to have an opinion to your opinion?"

B:
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GrendelQ said:
The incongruity I see here: a hearing ASL1 student newly learning about Deaf culture posts a mini-lecture defining what we (Hearing and Deaf) have a right to do, what is and isn't our place, and what's good or bad while simultaneously saying that hearing people (such as herself) shouldn't tell others what to do and what's good or bad.
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Okay, I see an opinion being stated... Not someone telling others what to do.

And isn't it convenient that a parent of CI child comes in and try to discount that? hmmm :cool2:
 
posts from hell said:
Okay, I see an opinion being stated... Not someone telling others what to do.

And isn't it convenient that a parent of CI child comes in and try to discount that? hmmm :cool2:
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:laugh2: Seriously? You have to free your mind from your reflexive response to the CI issue to see it, I guess.

Look at "Cochlear implants is an invasive procedure and if done even slightly wrong it could cause more bad than good." followed immediately by "Also who are hearing people to tell the Deaf world what is bad or not."

And then tell me you don't see the humor in in a hearing person 1st telling a group on a deaf forum what's good or bad and then telling us that hearing people shouldn't tell deaf or hearing people what's good or bad.

OK, let's rephrase the post in non-controversial terms: I am short and posting on a forum for tall people. Popcorn is an ugly color. Short people shouldn't tell tall people what's ugly. You don't see that the poster did exactly what she then immediately said people such as herself shouldn't do?
 
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