Unarmed Missouri teen shot by police sparks outrage
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"An unnamed police officer has been relieved of duty after he was caught on camera pointing an assault rifle at a Ferguson protester on Tuesday"
This from the story , it said " an unnamed police officer" but his photo is all over the place and it will be very easy to get his name. You're right it can be used as evidence ,that cop should not be on the force anymore he is not sable enough , he snapped under pressure.
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No, it can't be used as evidence against Officer Wilson because the cop in the video is not him so it will be inadmissible in a court. For example, video in which a different black guy assaulted a cop, can it be used as evidence to support Wilson that Brown who was also a black guy did assaulted him?
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6 Times Black Americans Jumped to Racial Conclusions
On Monday, a Rasmussen poll showed that a full 57 percent of black Americans believe that Officer Darren Wilson ought to be found guilty of murder for his shooting of unarmed 18-year-old black man Michael Brown. Meanwhile, 56 percent of white Americans believe there is not enough information to decide yet.
Clearly, the second position is correct. We simply do not have enough information at this point to determine whether Officer Wilson used excessive force, let alone whether he “executed” Brown, as the Brown family lawyers and Jesse Jackson claim. Wilson has not had a chance to tell his story; the police have not released the full narrative of his side. We do know that original reports that Brown was shot in the back were false; we know that Brown was hardly a “gentle giant” as he was portrayed in the media, given his strong-arm robbery of a convenience store minutes before the shooting; and new reports suggest that Wilson may have been beaten by Brown before the shooting.
But facts are of no relevance to many members of the black community, apparently. In June 2013, a poll showed that a full 86 percent of blacks believe that they do not get equal treatment under the law. Which means that for a huge swath of the black community, every time a black person and a white person are involved in a racial case, knee-jerk support for the black person is merited.
Ferguson is not the first time that huge percentages of the black community have jumped to judgment on racial cases without evidence. Unfortunately, those regular leaps to judgment completely undermine the credibility of legitimate claims regarding racist behavior.
Trayvon Martin. On February 26, 2012, George Zimmerman shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin after a physical altercation. The police investigated and decided that the shooting was in self-defense. After public pressure, prosecutors brought a murder charge against Zimmerman, despite evidence that Trayvon Martin had been pounding Zimmerman’s head into the pavement when Zimmerman shot him. The media treated Zimmerman as a vicious white killer, despite the fact that Zimmerman was “white Hispanic.” In June 2013, after the not guilty verdict came down for George Zimmerman, a poll of black Americans showed that 86 percent of black Americans said they disapproved of the verdict, and 87 percent said that the shooting was unjustified. Among those number, presumably, we could count President “If I Had a Son, He Would Look Like Trayvon” Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, who pursued a Department of Justice case against Zimmerman even after the acquittal.
Duke Lacrosse. In 2006, black stripper Crystal Mangum falsely claimed that she had been raped by white members of the Duke lacrosse team. The Duke coach was forced to resign; the players were suspended; prosecutor Mike Nifong brought a case against the players despite countervailing evidence. Eventually, the case fell apart when it turned out that Mangum was lying. Nonetheless, in January 2007, weeks after the case was dropped by Nifong (who was eventually disbarred and convicted of criminal contempt), a CBS poll showed that 46 percent of black Americans thought the Duke lacrosse players were guilty, and 30 percent of black Americans said that race was the “single most important factor in the case,” according to Melissa Harris-Perry.
OJ Simpson. On June 13, 1994, OJ Simpson murdered his ex-wife, Nicole Simpson, and Ronald Goldman. The evidence was clear and convincing, including DNA, blood samples, and shoeprint analysis. Nonetheless, Simpson was acquitted; one of the jurors, gave “what looked like a black power salute” after the verdict was read. In July 1994, 60 percent of blacks said that it was either definitely or probably not true that Simpson had murdered Nicole and Goldman; that number maintained throughout the trial. Even today, 43 percent of blacks agree that OJ was not guilty.
Marion Barry. On January 18, 1990, Washington D.C. mayor and professional race-baiter Marion Barry was arrested after smoking crack in his hotel room. He was caught on video and audio doing so. Nonetheless, a Washington Post poll from February 1990 showed that just 26 percent of blacks thought that Barry was to blame for his arrest; 30 percent of blacks thought he should run again for mayor; 46 percent said they would vote for him if he ran.
Tawana Brawley. In 1987, 15-year-old Tawana Brawley, with the help of race-baiter Al Sharpton, falsely accused several white men, including District Attorney Steven Pagones, of rape. Brawley’s story was false in virtually every way. Nonetheless, a New York Times/CBS News poll in June 1988 showed that just 50 percent of blacks thought Brawley was probably lying, as opposed to 85 percent of whites.
Only a deep-seated belief in the corruption and evil of America’s criminal justice system justifies these numbers. If you believe the system targets black people, then outrage is always justified before the facts are in – and in many cases, even after the facts are in. And the media’s consistent desire to drive that perception continues to contribute to the vast racial gap in American beliefs about law enforcement and criminality.
6 Times Black Americans Jumped to Racial Conclusions | The Minority Report Blog
On Monday, a Rasmussen poll showed that a full 57 percent of black Americans believe that Officer Darren Wilson ought to be found guilty of murder for his shooting of unarmed 18-year-old black man Michael Brown. Meanwhile, 56 percent of white Americans believe there is not enough information to decide yet.
Clearly, the second position is correct. We simply do not have enough information at this point to determine whether Officer Wilson used excessive force, let alone whether he “executed” Brown, as the Brown family lawyers and Jesse Jackson claim. Wilson has not had a chance to tell his story; the police have not released the full narrative of his side. We do know that original reports that Brown was shot in the back were false; we know that Brown was hardly a “gentle giant” as he was portrayed in the media, given his strong-arm robbery of a convenience store minutes before the shooting; and new reports suggest that Wilson may have been beaten by Brown before the shooting.
But facts are of no relevance to many members of the black community, apparently. In June 2013, a poll showed that a full 86 percent of blacks believe that they do not get equal treatment under the law. Which means that for a huge swath of the black community, every time a black person and a white person are involved in a racial case, knee-jerk support for the black person is merited.
Ferguson is not the first time that huge percentages of the black community have jumped to judgment on racial cases without evidence. Unfortunately, those regular leaps to judgment completely undermine the credibility of legitimate claims regarding racist behavior.
Trayvon Martin. On February 26, 2012, George Zimmerman shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin after a physical altercation. The police investigated and decided that the shooting was in self-defense. After public pressure, prosecutors brought a murder charge against Zimmerman, despite evidence that Trayvon Martin had been pounding Zimmerman’s head into the pavement when Zimmerman shot him. The media treated Zimmerman as a vicious white killer, despite the fact that Zimmerman was “white Hispanic.” In June 2013, after the not guilty verdict came down for George Zimmerman, a poll of black Americans showed that 86 percent of black Americans said they disapproved of the verdict, and 87 percent said that the shooting was unjustified. Among those number, presumably, we could count President “If I Had a Son, He Would Look Like Trayvon” Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, who pursued a Department of Justice case against Zimmerman even after the acquittal.
Duke Lacrosse. In 2006, black stripper Crystal Mangum falsely claimed that she had been raped by white members of the Duke lacrosse team. The Duke coach was forced to resign; the players were suspended; prosecutor Mike Nifong brought a case against the players despite countervailing evidence. Eventually, the case fell apart when it turned out that Mangum was lying. Nonetheless, in January 2007, weeks after the case was dropped by Nifong (who was eventually disbarred and convicted of criminal contempt), a CBS poll showed that 46 percent of black Americans thought the Duke lacrosse players were guilty, and 30 percent of black Americans said that race was the “single most important factor in the case,” according to Melissa Harris-Perry.
OJ Simpson. On June 13, 1994, OJ Simpson murdered his ex-wife, Nicole Simpson, and Ronald Goldman. The evidence was clear and convincing, including DNA, blood samples, and shoeprint analysis. Nonetheless, Simpson was acquitted; one of the jurors, gave “what looked like a black power salute” after the verdict was read. In July 1994, 60 percent of blacks said that it was either definitely or probably not true that Simpson had murdered Nicole and Goldman; that number maintained throughout the trial. Even today, 43 percent of blacks agree that OJ was not guilty.
Marion Barry. On January 18, 1990, Washington D.C. mayor and professional race-baiter Marion Barry was arrested after smoking crack in his hotel room. He was caught on video and audio doing so. Nonetheless, a Washington Post poll from February 1990 showed that just 26 percent of blacks thought that Barry was to blame for his arrest; 30 percent of blacks thought he should run again for mayor; 46 percent said they would vote for him if he ran.
Tawana Brawley. In 1987, 15-year-old Tawana Brawley, with the help of race-baiter Al Sharpton, falsely accused several white men, including District Attorney Steven Pagones, of rape. Brawley’s story was false in virtually every way. Nonetheless, a New York Times/CBS News poll in June 1988 showed that just 50 percent of blacks thought Brawley was probably lying, as opposed to 85 percent of whites.
Only a deep-seated belief in the corruption and evil of America’s criminal justice system justifies these numbers. If you believe the system targets black people, then outrage is always justified before the facts are in – and in many cases, even after the facts are in. And the media’s consistent desire to drive that perception continues to contribute to the vast racial gap in American beliefs about law enforcement and criminality.
6 Times Black Americans Jumped to Racial Conclusions | The Minority Report Blog
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Nothing new! Most of them know that Brown was in the wrong but blame on race issues instead. Same old BS!
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If you're talking about the robbery the shooting had nothing to do with it.
http://www.newsweek.com/police-name-officer-who-shot-mike-brown-darren-wilson-264788
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You will have to be able to discern propaganda (which that obviously is). If the conclusion can be drawn that black people are "murdered" by cops, while white people are "apprehended", then there would be no black people in prison, since they will have all been "murdered".
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Somebody had to add "if" in the sentence.
This image is fact.
He's right, it is. Several of these are people who are pictured are serial killers. One is in Colorado, and facing the death penalty there. The other one I recognize, from Arizona, is in for life in federal prison for killing a federal judge. That itself would have brought the death penalty, but he pled out.
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You mean officer Wilson stood in court and was convicted of murder? When did that happen?
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Hasn't happened yet. They just convened the Grand Jury last Wednesday, and they're saying it'll last through mid-October, at the very least.
The grand jury, the prosecutor and the cop who shot Michael Brown | MSNBC
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But the picture authentic used claimed that Michael Brown was "murdered" .. so when was the conviction of Officer Wilson?
Besides, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been keeping statistics available for police shooting fatalities from 1999-2011 and far more Whites are killed by Police than Blacks.
3,596 whites killed by Police Officers as opposed to 1,463 Blacks.
what gives?
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But the picture authentic used claimed that Michael Brown was "murdered" .. so when was the conviction of Officer Wilson?
Besides, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been keeping statistics available for police shooting fatalities from 1999-2011 and far more Whites are killed by Police than Blacks.
3,596 whites killed by Police Officers as opposed to 1,463 Blacks.
what gives?
so are you saying... there's no racism issue in here? no racial disparity? no racial injustice?
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But the picture authentic used claimed that Michael Brown was "murdered" .. so when was the conviction of Officer Wilson?
Besides, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been keeping statistics available for police shooting fatalities from 1999-2011 and far more Whites are killed by Police than Blacks.
3,596 whites killed by Police Officers as opposed to 1,463 Blacks.
Darren Wilson murdered Michael Brown in self-defense. George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon, and GZ trial juror says "he got away with murder".
Do they have statistics like;
3,596 whites killed by Pollice Officers who are white/black?
1,463 Blacks killed by Police Officers who are black/white?
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No, all they had were deaths by legal intervention (police shooting a perp) and the race and number of deaths from individuals of that race.
More whites are killed by Police than blacks. Whether that has to do with a population disparity is entirely subject to your POV - but the fact is, there are more white people being killed by cops than black people. The point being is the image you posted was propaganda, as it was attempting to portray that white people get arrested and black people get shot. The truth is, both get shot, both get arrested. But more whites get shot than blacks. That fact is not portrayed in the image.
Not trying to pick on you
just pointing out that the message of that image is portraying something that is false. It is a "bait tactic" meant to enrage people of color. Don't fall for it - just look at the facts.
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But the picture authentic used claimed that Michael Brown was "murdered" .. so when was the conviction of Officer Wilson?
Besides, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) has been keeping statistics available for police shooting fatalities from 1999-2011 and far more Whites are killed by Police than Blacks.
3,596 whites killed by Police Officers as opposed to 1,463 Blacks.
what gives?
where? as in... where were 1,463 blacks killed?
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No, all they had were deaths by legal intervention (police shooting a perp) and the race and number of deaths from individuals of that race.
More whites are killed by Police than blacks. Whether that has to do with a population disparity is entirely subject to your POV - but the fact is, there are more white people being killed by cops than black people. The point being is the image you posted was propaganda, as it was attempting to portray that white people get arrested and black people get shot. The truth is, both get shot, both get arrested. But more whites get shot than blacks. That fact is not portrayed in the image.
Not trying to pick on you
wow.... you surely are working quite very hard on spinning it... especially since the pix was posted by "comedianspank"
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Not trying to spin it at all - that was the message conveyed. I didn't find it humorous either. I am sure a lot of the protesters in MO would probably not think it was very funny.
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No, all they had were deaths by legal intervention (police shooting a perp) and the race and number of deaths from individuals of that race.
More whites are killed by Police than blacks. Whether that has to do with a population disparity is entirely subject to your POV - but the fact is, there are more white people being killed by cops than black people. The point being is the image you posted was propaganda, as it was attempting to portray that white people get arrested and black people get shot. The truth is, both get shot, both get arrested. But more whites get shot than blacks. That fact is not portrayed in the image.
Not trying to pick on you
I understand your point. In this image, the media targeted well known killers get apprehended, while well known blacks get murdered. Media will not show the world the real facts (like you said more whites get killed by police officer). It is not fair, but that is how media try to ignite the rage. Media/News are getting rich, and richer now by showing to world plenty of decorative stories, and hiding real facts behind to it.
I was wondering when black officer in this same situation, he probably would not shoot Michael Brown or will that black officer follow the police's protocol? MB will approach/respond to black officer differently than white officer?
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I don't really know the answer to that. But, if I wanted to research it, I would be asking Chicago PD Officers that question.
Why Chicago? because of all the shootings there and gang related violence.
I was watching an interview on some news channel (can't remember which one) and there was a black community leader - I think he may have been a pastor - that said something interesting. He said it wasn't white police officers that were the problem - that young black men are not being killed by white police officers - he said the problem was that young black males are being shot and killed by other young black males.
Again, I don't know if that is true - but I have heard it many times before called black on black violence.
I can understand the anger and frustration though. To some extent. If I was constantly targeted and harassed and pulled over by police because of my ethnic origins, I would feel like they were predators and I was the prey - i would be more defensive when dealing with an officer and not trust them at all.
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