Trayvon Case Investigation

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Waterboy said:
You mean like assuming that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman?
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I said we'll have to wait and see what the court shows away from the media that have corrupted so many people's minds into thinking they can be judge, jury, and executioner. Sad, really.
 
Steinhauer said:
As opposed to the previous commentators that said he had no injuries at all .... :giggle:
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He sure didn't have any life threatening injuries. Nothing that even required emergency treatment, or stitches. Still nothing to show he had a broken nose.

Trayvon had a fatal bullet hole in his chest, though. Can't deny that.
 
kokonut said:
I said we'll have to wait and see what the court shows away from the media that have corrupted so many people's minds into thinking they can be judge, jury, and executioner. Sad, really.
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Yep. Shame that some people act like judge jury and executioner. That is how a 17 year old kid died.

We will see what the court finds.
 
Waterboy said:
He sure didn't have any life threatening injuries. Nothing that even required emergency treatment, or stitches. Still nothing to show he had a broken nose.

Trayvon had a fatal bullet hole in his chest, though. Can't deny that.
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Head injuries, even minor ones, could result as a concussion injury or hemorrhage of the brain that won't show up until later.

But again, the court will provide all the necessary details of his injuries, if any - according to some.
 
Waterboy said:
Yep. Shame that some people act like judge jury and executioner. That is how a 17 year old kid died.

We will see what the court finds.
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Again, we don't know that for sure. Please take your advice, "we will see what the court finds."
 
kokonut said:
Head injuries, even minor ones, could result as a concussion injury or hemorrhage of the brain that won't show up until later.

But again, the court will provide all the necessary details of his injuries, if any - according to some.
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Then why wasn't he taken to the emergency room to be checked out? Concussion is pretty obvious after the blow. But since he wasn't knocked out, no concussion. The EMTs checked him out, remember. They could have seen signs of concussion then. And not very likely that he would hemmorage from cuts that didn't even take stitches. Exaggeration.
 
kokonut said:
Again, we don't know that for sure. Please take your advice, "we will see what the court finds."
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Someone decided that Trayvon was "suspicious" and needed to be chased down. As a result he was killed. Wouldn't that someone be Zimmerman?
 
Waterboy said:
Then why wasn't he taken to the emergency room to be checked out? Concussion is pretty obvious after the blow. But since he wasn't knocked out, no concussion. The EMTs checked him out, remember. They could have seen signs of concussion then. And not very likely that he would hemmorage from cuts that didn't even take stitches. Exaggeration.
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Ever see what the inside of a human skull looks like? It's not all completely smooth. You can have bleeding in the brain even six weeks after a head injury. Just because no signs of a concussion doesn't mean there isn't any injury to the brain.

You can have progressive symptoms that doesn't show up at first where signs of, for example, epidural or subdural hematomas. Symptoms could manifest itself days, weeks, or months later after a head injury. Even as innocuous as bonking your head on the corner of a cabinet door in the kitchen could bring about an internal brain injury.
 
Waterboy said:
Yes, he did. Fired from Zimmerman's weapon by Zimmerman.
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Could be. Maybe Trayvon had his hand on the gun, turned it and in the process shot himself and in the struggle zimmerman might have thought he did the shooting? Probably not. Who knows? Again, that's up to the court to decide exactly how it happened. We weren't there.
 
Waterboy said:
Someone decided that Trayvon was "suspicious" and needed to be chased down. As a result he was killed. Wouldn't that someone be Zimmerman?
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There were a string of robberies in that neighborhood. I would find it odd that a neighbor would not be suspicious if they saw an unidentified person milling about in their neighborhood.
 
kokonut said:
Ever see what the inside of a human skull looks like? It's not all completely smooth. You can have bleeding in the brain even six weeks after a head injury. Just because no signs of a concussion doesn't mean there isn't any injury to the brain.

You can have progressive symptoms that doesn't show up at first where signs of, for example, epidural or subdural hematomas. Symptoms could manifest itself days, weeks, or months later after a head injury. Even as innocuous as bonking your head on the corner of a cabinet door in the kitchen could bring about an internal brain injury.
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It takes a very hard blow to cause epidural or subdural hematomas. A much harder blow that would cause 2 minor cuts that don't even require stitches. If there was a sign that George was at risk for brain injury, he would have been taken to the hospital. EMTs know what to look for that would show signs of something that could case a brain injury. George must not have showed any of that, or he would have been taken to the hospital.

This is just a bunch of exaggeration. If George was being hit hard enough and repeatedly enough to cause brain injury, he wouldn't have been able to react and shoot.
 
kokonut said:
There were a string of robberies in that neighborhood. I would find it odd that a neighbor would not be suspicious if they saw an unidentified person milling about in their neighborhood.
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So you are saying that George knew everybody that lived in that neighborhood? Otherwise, he would see a lot of "unidentified" people. And people who live in that neighborhood don't have people come to visit them? Just because George didn't recognize him doesn't mean anything. It could be someone that lived in that neighborhood for years.

Milling about? Walking home, you mean?
 
kokonut said:
Could be. Maybe Trayvon had his hand on the gun, turned it and in the process shot himself and in the struggle zimmerman might have thought he did the shooting? Probably not. Who knows? Again, that's up to the court to decide exactly how it happened. We weren't there.
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Uh, Zimmerman already admitted to shooting him.
 
Waterboy said:
He sure didn't have any life threatening injuries. Nothing that even required emergency treatment, or stitches. Still nothing to show he had a broken nose.

Trayvon had a fatal bullet hole in his chest, though. Can't deny that.
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No one did.

No one denied the skittles and tea part either.
 
Waterboy said:
It takes a very hard blow to cause epidural or subdural hematomas. A much harder blow that would cause 2 minor cuts that don't even require stitches. If there was a sign that George was at risk for brain injury, he would have been taken to the hospital. EMTs know what to look for that would show signs of something that could case a brain injury. George must not have showed any of that, or he would have been taken to the hospital.

This is just a bunch of exaggeration. If George was being hit hard enough and repeatedly enough to cause brain injury, he wouldn't have been able to react and shoot.
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Like I said, inside the human skull isn't always so smooth. Each person's skull development is different where some protrusion may be a bit rugged that blow to the head in that area could cause problems. A head blow doesn't have to be hard. Review the medical history of people getting blows to the head that wasn't even serious at all who ended up having neurological complications.

http://repub.eur.nl/res/pub/12657/Smits_Imaging in Minor Head Injury.pdf

Although the skull is not technically a part of the brain, it is an important structure to understand. While its role is to protect the brain from outside forces, it can also contribute to brain tissue damage because of sharp ridges on the inside.
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Understanding Brain Injury | Brain Injury Visual Guide | Washington State Brain Injury Law Terms | Seattle Personal Injury Resource Adler Giersch

Which is why people with minor head injuries when struck in a particular way sometimes ended up having complications while those with more serious head injuries sometimes get away on developing no neurological complications.
 
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