Trayvon Case Investigation

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Steinhauer said:
To quote you from earlier pre-ban posts "Do your own research".
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You said Dershowitz said the prosecutors should be charged with perjury. That would make it your research.
 
Steinhauer said:
To quote you from earlier pre-ban posts "Do your own research".

I did mine:

Alan Dershowitz Slams Angela Corey’s Affidavit in George Zimmerman Trial For Using False Information and Being Sloppy | Video | TheBlaze.com
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Doesn't say the prosecutor DID commit perjury. And doesn't say the prosecutor should be charged with perjury. Dershowitz does not know all the facts that the prosecution has. And the court disagrees with him. The court saw enough evidence to go ahead with the charges.

Since Dershowitz doesn't part of the investigation, he doesn't know what is false and what isn't.
 
Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz believes the prosecution team in the George Zimmerman case should be investigated to see if they committed a criminal act.

Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated - Manchester Independent | Examiner.com

Investigated is a whole lot different than charged.

And in your case, all he said was you don't indict based on false information. Didn't say that the indictment was based on false information. That remains to be seen after all the evidence the prosecution has is known.
 
Furthermore, in an explosive charge, Dershowitz said he believes the Florida prosecution, may be guilty of committing an ethical violation, and potentially may have committed a criminal act by charging Zimmerman with second degree murder. If the prosecution had access to a photograph showing the bloodied head of Mr. Zimmerman, taken immediately after the incident on February 26, there was no basis for a second degree murder charge, according to Dershowitz.

Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated - Manchester Independent | Examiner.com

A photo of blood on George's head does not prove that Trayvon was slamming his head into the ground. Gotta have more than that. George could have slipped and fallen and busted his own head on the cement when Trayvon was trying to get away from him.

Dershowitz is talking about a whole lot of maybes, nothing defininate.
 
Waterboy said:
Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz believes the prosecution team in the George Zimmerman case should be investigated to see if they committed a criminal act.

Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated - Manchester Independent | Examiner.com

Investigated is a whole lot different than charged.

And in your case, all he said was you don't indict based on false information. Didn't say that the indictment was based on false information. That remains to be seen after all the evidence the prosecution has is known.
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So, what was he claiming had false information in it? The indictment maybe?

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Steinhauer said:
So, what was he claiming had false information in it? The indictment maybe?

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He didn't claim anything had false information in it. He was commenting on a bunch of "ifs". If the prosecution had....if the prosecution did.....if the prosecution knew.

And he uses words like if and may be because he doesn't know for sure. He doesn't have the information from the investigation that the indictment is based on.

Do you know Dershowitz's history? Just curious.
 
Waterboy said:
He didn't claim anything had false information in it. He was commenting on a bunch of "ifs". If the prosecution had....if the prosecution did.....if the prosecution knew.

And he uses words like if and may be because he doesn't know for sure. He doesn't have the information from the investigation that the indictment is based on.

Do you know Dershowitz's history? Just curious.
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Your reading comprehension kind of sucks. How the heck did you ever get your PhD? You should get a refund.
 
Waterboy said:
You said Dershowitz said the prosecutors should be charged with perjury. That would make it your research.
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And you asked where he said it - that would make it your research. I even showed it and you are trying to argue that he never said it - when he did. And yes, everyone and their brother knows who Dershowitz is, even dogs know his history. Possibly even the neighborhood cat.

But, at least you didn't question the source like you normally do ...
 
Steinhauer said:
And you asked where he said it - that would make it your research. I even showed it and you are trying to argue that he never said it - when he did. And yes, everyone and their brother knows who Dershowitz is, even dogs know his history. Possibly even the neighborhood cat.

But, at least you didn't question the source like you normally do ...
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And I did a little research, and showed you that he didn't say it at all. You just misread what you were reading. He never said that the prosecutor should be charged with perjury.

No, I didn't question the source. I just showed you where your own source doesn't say what you said it did.

So, you know that his legal career has been around getting people off on technicalities? Like his being an advisor on the O.J. Simpson defense, for instance. I think you compared the O.J. case to the Trayvon case before. And not in a good way. Dershowitz was part of the defense team for O.J. He also defended Patty Hearst. And Leona Helmsley. Right now, he is on the defense team for Julian Assange.

He is also opposed to gun ownership and the Second Amendment.

Hmmm. Sounds like one of those liberals to me.
 
Yeah, slipped and fell twice hitting his head twice receiving two cuts on the back of his head (one higher and one lower) and then somehow slipped toward the front and mashed his front face into the ground and getting a broken nose in the process, too.
 
kokonut said:
Yeah, slipped and fell twice hitting his head twice receiving two cuts on the back of his head (one higher and one lower) and then somehow slipped toward the front and mashed his front face into the ground and getting a broken nose in the process, too.
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That "broken nose" sure did heal up quick. No sign of it at his bond hearing. And no medical evidence or photos showing anything wrong with his nose at all. Defense is going to have to come up with some medical reports. You don't close "gashes" with butterfly bandaids, which is all that has ever been done to Zimmerman's head. If he had a "gash" he would have been taken to the hospital that night for stitiches. If he had such a bad head injury, he would have been taken to the hospital, not cleaned up by paramedics and let go.

The picture is taken supposedly by a neighbor, and has not been secured as evidence. It was floating out there for a while. Didn't even come out until after Zimmerman was already charged.
 
*shrug*

He had two cuts to his head during the incident per the photo. We'll have to wait and see what the court shows.
 
The person that took that pic also said George yelled at him to "call my wife." So the person taking the photo was a obviously a friend of George's, since he would have to know who George was and who his wife was, and what the phone number was. Strange that this friend waited so long to let this pic out if it had the power to support George's self defense claim.
 
kokonut said:
*shrug*

He had two cuts to his head during the incident per the photo. We'll have to wait and see what the court shows.
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Yeah. Those cuts could have happened in a lot of different ways. Gotta prove Trayvon caused them for self defense to even be considered. And the bullet hole in Trayvon's chest was a lot more serious than the two little cuts to George's head.
 
Yeah, damn neighbor photoshopped GZ's head injury.

Guess we'll need to wait and see what the court provides.
 
kokonut said:
Yeah, damn neighbor photoshopped GZ's head injury.

Guess we'll need to wait and see what the court provides.
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Nice to know you can see all the possibilities.

But more likely, it was taken supposedly 3 minutes after Trayvon was shot. The blood looks like it was already starting to dry. That was before it was cleaned up to see how bad the cut really was. Head cuts always bleed a lot and look worse than they really are before they are cleaned up. So the photo is misleading about how bad the wound was.

But if you want to suggest photoshopping, that's fine too.
 
Like I said, we'll never know until we have all the facts on hand the court will show in great details. No need to go overboard on the assumption game. Just wait until the court start to provide details and evidence.
 
kokonut said:
Like I said, we'll never know until we have all the facts on hand the court will show in great details. No need to go overboard on the assumption game. Just wait until the court start to provide details and evidence.
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You mean like assuming that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman?
 
Waterboy said:
Nice to know you can see all the possibilities.

But more likely, it was taken supposedly 3 minutes after Trayvon was shot. The blood looks like it was already starting to dry. That was before it was cleaned up to see how bad the cut really was. Head cuts always bleed a lot and look worse than they really are before they are cleaned up. So the photo is misleading about how bad the wound was.

But if you want to suggest photoshopping, that's fine too.
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As opposed to the previous commentators that said he had no injuries at all .... :giggle:
 
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