Trayvon Case Investigation

[rolling7]

Rolling7 didn't forget to mention it. His quote: You are right, the judge is investigating but has make no such declaration as of yet. And that was for waterboy, too who confirmed that GZ lied.

Thank you.

 

[Jiro]

Rolling7 didn't forget to mention it. His quote: You are right, the judge is investigating but has make no such declaration as of yet. And that was for waterboy, too who confirmed that GZ lied.

where?

 

[rolling7]

Zimmerman most likely lied (or simply failed to disclosed it). He used $5,000 from PayPal account to pay for bond which his lawyer argued that Zimmerman is indigent for costs.

it's fine if somebody pieced a few puzzles together to see that Zimmerman clearly lied to judge. free speech, right? everybody's entitled to their opinions.

My problem with this is the fact that GZ was locked up in jail and I would assume have no access to PayPal. If there is something I'm missing, tell me. However, the way I see this is someone other that GZ took the money out of PayPal.
Perhaps it can be said that GZ knew about the account but had no idea how much was in there, after all he was waiting to go before the judge for a basil hearing and in jail a person should not have access to a computer. Let the judge figure it out and don't be jumping the fun to call GZ a liar.

 

[rolling7]

where?

#909

 

[VacationGuy234]

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Indigent. Yes, and the defence lawyer will argue against the amount with financial status. You never go into court without an argument that is what the lawyer is paid to do, argue. There will be a civil case.

We'll have to wait and see if there is a civil case. There isn't one yet. But what you are saying just makes it look like Zimmerman was trying to hide the money in case of a civil case.

No matter. This was about the bond hearing, and the fact that Zimmerman claimed to be indigent to get a lower bond, when he wasn't indigent. In fact, he contributed towards his own bond amount according to his lawyer, and his parents put up the rest. The judge was told he had no money and no assets. That was a lie.

Again, lying is part of the legal process, it's in his best interest to get a lower bond and his lawyer must do what is in his best interest. The Trayvon camp doesn't bond, they want jail.

You are not wrong, but it's how the system works.

Do I think Zimmerman should be in jail? No, this is not a simple case and there will be no simple answer.

 

[rockin'robin]

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Again, lying is part of the legal process, it's in his best interest to get a lower bond and his lawyer must do what is in his best interest. The Trayvon camp doesn't bond, they want jail.

You are not wrong, but it's how the system works.

Do I think Zimmerman should be in jail? No, this is not a simple case and there will be no simple answer.

...and

 

[Reba]

In this case, it applies to someone sworn to tell the truth in a court of law. Zimmerman.

That is funny how?

Does that mean that people are required to tell the truth only when under oath in a court of law?

 

[Reba]

My problem with this is the fact that GZ was locked up in jail and I would assume have no access to PayPal. ..

Do you mean GZ had no ATM in his jail cell? Shocking!

Perhaps it can be said that GZ knew about the account but had no idea how much was in there, after all he was waiting to go before the judge for a basil hearing and in jail a person should not have access to a computer.

Is that like an oregano hearing?

Let the judge figure it out and don't be jumping the fun to call GZ a liar.

Maybe it is fun for some posters.



[Above comments are meant in good natured teasing. ]

 

[rockin'robin]

Do you mean GZ had no ATM in his jail cell? Shocking!


Is that like an oregano hearing?


Maybe it is fun for some posters.


[Above comments are meant in good natured teasing. ]

Yeah...it's like "they" are saying GZ had his ATM card in his wallet and was let out of his cell every hour to "check his balance"....GZ was totally devastated, depressed and I feel that $$ was the last thing that was on his mind. What he is enduring is enuf to make anyone lose their mind.

 

[Jiro]

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Again, lying is part of the legal process, it's in his best interest to get a lower bond and his lawyer must do what is in his best interest. The Trayvon camp doesn't bond, they want jail.

You are not wrong, but it's how the system works.

Do I think Zimmerman should be in jail? No, this is not a simple case and there will be no simple answer.

lying in court is a perjury.
lying to police is an obstruction to justice.

in a murder case, it's not in Zimmerman's best interest to lie in any matter.

 

[Jiro]

My problem with this is the fact that GZ was locked up in jail and I would assume have no access to PayPal. If there is something I'm missing, tell me. However, the way I see this is someone other that GZ took the money out of PayPal.
Perhaps it can be said that GZ knew about the account but had no idea how much was in there, after all he was waiting to go before the judge for a basil hearing and in jail a person should not have access to a computer. Let the judge figure it out and don't be jumping the fun to call GZ a liar.

so.... how did he pay for bond before he got out of jail? if someone took $5,000 out of PayPal account to pay for bond partially... Zimmerman didn't question it?

Zimmerman got out of jail and spent some of it on living expenses so about $150,000 remains. and he didn't bother to disclose it much earlier?

$54,000 has been spent in a very short time. very suspicious.

 

[rolling7]

so.... how did he pay for bond before he got out of jail? if someone took $5,000 out of PayPal account to pay for bond partially... Zimmerman didn't question it?

Zimmerman got out of jail and spent some of it on living expenses so about $150,000 remains. and he didn't bother to disclose it much earlier?

$54,000 has been spent in a very short time. very suspicious.

Have you heard about the second mortgage?
If there really was a huge PayPal at the time of the bail hearing, why go to the trouble of a second mortgage?

Why can't everyone wait on the judge?

 

[Waterboy]

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Again, lying is part of the legal process, it's in his best interest to get a lower bond and his lawyer must do what is in his best interest. The Trayvon camp doesn't bond, they want jail.

You are not wrong, but it's how the system works.

Do I think Zimmerman should be in jail? No, this is not a simple case and there will be no simple answer.

Lying is a part of the legal process? Okay. Mind finding something in the legal codes to show that lying is a part of the legal process?

 

[Waterboy]

Have you heard about the second mortgage?
If there really was a huge PayPal at the time of the bail hearing, why go to the trouble of a second mortgage?

Why can't everyone wait on the judge?

His parents took out a second mortgage for $10,000 of the money that had to be paid on the bond. George paid $5,000 out of the Paypal accounts. His attorney has already said that.

To keep up the subterfuge. George claimed he was indigent; his parents claimed they didn't have much savings and would have to mortgage their house to make his bail. If George all a sudden came up with $15,000 without his parents taking out a second mortgage, suspicion would have been high.

 

[Waterboy]

That is funny how?

Does that mean that people are required to tell the truth only when under oath in a court of law?

In this case, we are talking about lying on a sworn statement and deceiving the court.

 

[Waterboy]

lying in court is a perjury.
lying to police is an obstruction to justice.

in a murder case, it's not in Zimmerman's best interest to lie in any matter.

Since this is a case where he is asking the judge and the jury to believe his story on no more than his word, he really doesn't look good on his credibility.

 

[rolling7]

His parents took out a second mortgage for $10,000 of the money that had to be paid on the bond. George paid $5,000 out of the Paypal accounts. His attorney has already said that.

To keep up the subterfuge. George claimed he was indigent; his parents claimed they didn't have much savings and would have to mortgage their house to make his bail. If George all a sudden came up with $15,000 without his parents taking out a second mortgage, suspicion would have been high.

You make a good point but why not save your breath/text until the judge decides what to do? Nothing to gain from making texts based on assumptions.

 

[Waterboy]

so.... how did he pay for bond before he got out of jail? if someone took $5,000 out of PayPal account to pay for bond partially... Zimmerman didn't question it?

Zimmerman got out of jail and spent some of it on living expenses so about $150,000 remains. and he didn't bother to disclose it much earlier?

$54,000 has been spent in a very short time. very suspicious.

$49,000 for rent and living expenses? Sure. Not adding up.

 

[Waterboy]

You make a good point but why not save your breath/text until the judge decides what to do? Nothing to gain from making texts based on assumptions.

The judge is deciding whether to raise or revoke bail. I haven't commented on that.

 

[rolling7]

The judge is deciding whether to raise or revoke bail. I haven't commented on that.

Only two choices? Would you consider that the judge will leave it as is?