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Trayvon Martin Case: Judge in George Zimmerman murder trial refuses to issue gag order
Trayvon Martin Case: Judge in George Zimmerman murder trial refuses to issue gag order - Crimesider - CBS News

ORLANDO, Fla. - A judge has refused the prosecution's request and will not issue a gag order on those involved in George Zimmerman's murder trial.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester said on Friday he would not stop Zimmerman's attorneys from talking to the media if they choose.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The case has drawn national attention because Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer when he shot Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman was not charged for more than six weeks after claiming he claimed he acted in self-defense.
 
Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman's lawyer says he didn't know about $200,000 in donations before bond hearing
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57422906-504083/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmermans-lawyer-says-he-didnt-know-about-$200000-in-donations-before-bond-hearing/?tag=contentMain;contentBody

SANFORD, Fla. - The attorney for George Zimmerman said he didn't know his client had raised $200,000 before a bond hearing last week.

Mark O'Mara told the judge Friday that Zimmerman's family hadn't informed him about the money before his client was granted $150,000 bond.

Florida Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester said he wanted to know more information about the money and what Zimmerman knew before deciding whether to revoke or raise his bond. He said he would decide on that at a hearing after O'Mara gathers the information.

According to CNN, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family earlier said that Zimmerman should be back in jail because he did not disclose the donated money during his bond hearing.

"They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," said Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump. "We think the court should revoke his bond immediately and he should be held accountable for misleading the court."

The funds were raised through a website, created almost two weeks ago by Zimmerman's family, made in an effort to receive donations for his legal defense and thank supporters. The site has since been shut down but O'Mara said he'll likely start a new defense fund for Zimmerman.

Zimmerman is accused of second-degree murder for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The case has drawn national attention because Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer when he shot Martin, who was unarmed.

Zimmerman wasn't charged for more than six weeks because he claimed he acted in self-defense.
 
Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman's lawyer to attend court hearing about $200K raised by website for defense fund
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57422849-504083/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmermans-lawyer-to-attend-court-hearing-about-$200k-raised-by-website-for-defense-fund/?tag=contentMain;contentBody

ORLANDO, Fla. - George Zimmerman's attorney said his client's bail might have been set higher if a judge had known about $200,000 raised by a website. The information only came to light this week.

Mark O'Mara said on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that he only learned about the money Wednesday and will inform a judge at a hearing Friday.

Friday's hearing was initially scheduled to deal with several media organizations, including The Associated Press, asking the judge to unseal documents from Zimmerman's court file, but the donations have now overshadowed that issue.

Meanwhile, according to CNN, the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family says Zimmerman should be back in jail because during a recent bond hearing he did not report to a judge that he had $204,000.

"They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," said Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump. "We think the court should revoke his bond immediately and he should be held accountable for misleading the court."

The website, created almost two weeks ago by Zimmerman's family, was made in an effort to receive donations for his legal defense and thank supporters. The site has since been shut down but O'Mara said he'll likely start a new defense fund for Zimmerman.

Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, has been given about $204,000 from supporters, his lawyer Mark O'Mara said Thursday.

The 44-day delay in Zimmerman's arrest spurred protests nationwide and inspired a national debate about racial profiling, equal justice under the law and Florida's self-defense law. Martin was black; Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is from Peru.

Zimmerman has gone into hiding since his release on bail. Under terms of his bond, he has to wear a GPS ankle bracelet that authorities can use to track his location round the clock.
 
Not a defense fund. Website said to cover his expenses because he couldn't work. Money was said up to go directly to him. Wasn't in a trust for defense.

Wouldn't have to be in a trust. A defense fund could certainly include living expenses during trial. Personally, based on the information we have, I wouldn't think it were necessary to declare those funds as assets. The judge may or may not see it differently.
 
You still haven't said if you meant indigant or indigent. I don't know which word you meant to use.

No, awards are not based on the family's financial status. The awards are based on loss. A family could be really rich and still get a civil award of a million or more bucks based on the loss they suffered at the hands of someone else.

Civil Procedure legal definition of Civil Procedure. Civil Procedure synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.
But this case hasn't even had a civil suit filed.

Indigent. Yes, and the defence lawyer will argue against the amount with financial status. You never go into court without an argument that is what the lawyer is paid to do, argue. There will be a civil case.
 
I couldn't find those informations in news report. Looks like you are the only one saying it. Is that your opinion or a fact? If it's a fact, leave a link to convince us.

What's more, I don't think it doesn't matter how poor or rich an alleged murderer is, only a judge decides the amount. There were many murder cases in which alleged murderers were poor and the judges still set the bond $1 million.

It is standard practice when you are arrested and go to court. If you claim you are indigent, you have to sign a sworn statement saying you have no income or assets. Check the law.

The judge sets the amount, but he considers how much the person can afford to pay for bail. Saying you are indigent results in a lower bail amount, especially in cases like this. Saying you are indigent means you are not much of a flight risk. The judge considers that when he sets the bail amount. The judge also looks at things like ties to the community when he sets bail. Why do you think Zimmerman's parents were testifying about how much they could afford at the bond hearing? Why do you think his family was testifying about the fact that they would make sure he was where he was supposed to be if they let him out on bail? Why do you think that they have a monitoring device on his ankle and took his passport?

His lawyer even said that this was important information the judge should have been told at the bond hearing. That is why he brought it up at discovery when he said he just learned about it. If it wasn't important information that had been kept from the judge, there wouldn't have been a reason to bring it up now. If it wasn't important information that affected the judge's decision, he would not have said he needed more information about it to decide what needs to happen now.
 
Indigent. Yes, and the defence lawyer will argue against the amount with financial status. You never go into court without an argument that is what the lawyer is paid to do, argue. There will be a civil case.

We'll have to wait and see if there is a civil case. There isn't one yet. But what you are saying just makes it look like Zimmerman was trying to hide the money in case of a civil case.

No matter. This was about the bond hearing, and the fact that Zimmerman claimed to be indigent to get a lower bond, when he wasn't indigent. In fact, he contributed towards his own bond amount according to his lawyer, and his parents put up the rest. The judge was told he had no money and no assets. That was a lie.
 
Wouldn't have to be in a trust. A defense fund could certainly include living expenses during trial. Personally, based on the information we have, I wouldn't think it were necessary to declare those funds as assets. The judge may or may not see it differently.

If it is money that you have available to you, it is an asset.:laugh2:
 
Thank you, Sara, for#886, 887, 888. I did not once read where the judge nor anyone else declared that GZ lied.
 
Thank you, Sara, for#886, 887, 888. I did not once read where the judge nor anyone else declared that GZ lied.

You probably should read it again, then. Even his own lawyer says that they claimed not to have any money, and George had these funds all along and didn't tell his lawyer he had them. That is lying no matter how you look at it. His lawyer even said in court yesterday that George's family knew about the money. And signing a sworn statement that says you are indigent when you know you have $204,000 in an account is a lie. Telling the court you are broke because you can't work and have no income or any assets is a lie when you have $204,000 in a Paypal account.
 
Thank you, Sara, for#886, 887, 888. I did not once read where the judge nor anyone else declared that GZ lied.

you're jumping the gun already. It said judge needs more time to investigate this matter. He said - "I'm not going to make a snap decision."

I find this matter very fishy because Zimmerman had already launched this website with donation button way before his hearing. I find his lawyer's reply to be very dubious.
 
From one of Sara's links:Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to his attorney, Mark O'Mara.

That is lying to the court, when you have previously told the court that you have no money.
 
STATEMENT FROM MARK O'MARA REGARDING THE FUNDS RAISED BY GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S WEBSITE

on 26 April 2012.

I want to take a moment to clear up some of the confusion regarding the monies raised on Mr. Zimmerman’s website. My understanding is that there were three websites which had PayPal accounts attached to them. One or two of them were run by friends of Mr. Zimmerman, and then there was the web site therealgeorgezimmerman.com , which George administered. Two accounts seem to have very little money in them, though I have not seen any records on those as they are not being administered by my client. Mr. Zimmerman’s former website and the PayPal attached to it raised approximately $200,000.00 over the period of time that it was up and running. Mr. Zimmerman was using this money, as mentioned on his website, for his ongoing living expenses and other necessary expenses based upon the charge and eventual arrest.

As I was ending any Internet presence George had, we removed any Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts and websites. As we shut down the web site entitled therealgeorgezimmerman.com my client asked what we should do about the outstanding fee monies in the PayPal account or that had been taken out of the PayPal account since its inception. George immediately gathered the funds that were in either his or his wife’s account, or the PayPal account, and has forwarded those funds to me presently. We are still awaiting a check from the PayPal company which takes several days.

I am also accomplishing a review of all of the monies in and expenses paid out of those accounts, so I will have that information by next week.

The large amount of money that has been raised to date for George’s defense, I believe, is a testament to the support for George as he goes through this most difficult time. Though the concept of a legal defense fund is quite unique, it serves a very valid purpose and gives an opportunity for people to show their support to Mr. Zimmerman.
STATEMENT FROM MARK O'MARA REGARDING THE FUNDS RAISED BY GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S WEBSITE


The defense has started a Facebook page and Twitter account for Zimmerman, and another website under O’Mara’s control, Home. It will allow supporters to donate to a legal defense fund.

“I don’t want my client to have any Internet presence unless it is through my office,” O’Mara said. “What I’m trying to do is limit the enormity of danger that comes into this case in places like Twitter and false Facebook accounts.”
ZIMMERMAN
 
you're jumping the gun already. It said judge needs more time to investigate this matter. He said - "I'm not going to make a snap decision."

I find this matter very fishy because Zimmerman had already launched this website with donation button way before his hearing. I find his lawyer's reply to be very dubious.

Yep. How could his lawyer not have known that he was getting money from this website? He may not have known how much, and just found out that there was $204,000 collected, but to say he didn't know and George didn't tell him until Wed. is a little fishy.

And his lawyer went to the news media about it before he brought it up in court, too. Bet the judge is not happy to learn it from CNN before the attorney brought it up in court.
 
The large amount of cash is noteworthy because O'Mara had previously described Zimmerman as "indigent for costs" at his bond hearing earlier this month, something that likely played a role in his bail being set at $150,000. Zimmerman was released early Monday after paying 10 percent of the bail with money from his family, and O'Mara didn't have an answer for why the donations weren't used instead.

O'Mara formally disclosed the donations at a Friday morning hearing originally intended to handle issues surrounding the unsealing of Zimmerman's criminal file. The state asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman's bond but Lester said he would delay the request while he investigates further whether he has the authority to do so. "I'm not going to make a snap decision," he said.

George Zimmerman: $200,000 in donations to be disclosed

Judge is looking to see if he has the authority to increase or revoke bond based on the money that was not disclosed, and the fact that Zimmerman claimed he was indigent and could not pay bail or costs at his bond hearing.
 
From Fox News:

He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts, and I asked him what he was talking about,” O’Mara told Anderson Cooper. “He said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about … $204,000 that had come in to date.”

O’Mara had said earlier this month that he believed Zimmerman had no money. “I think he’s indigent for costs,” he said, adding that Zimmerman’s relatives had few assets.

Asked whether knowledge of the money might have made a difference to Judge Kenneth Lester Jr., who presided at Zimmerman’s bond hearing, O’Mara said, “It might have.”

But criminal defense attorney Mark Geragos said Lester might not react benignly. “I know a lot of judges who would remand the guy back into custody immediately,” he said. “If you’ve got more money stashed in an account and you could just pay the bond and be gone, that gives a lot of judges concern.”

Martin attorney: Zimmerman misled court about money | FOX6Now.com
 
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