Travis the monkey killed for going on a rampage while mental

Yeah... Did you know that French lady was being mauled by her own pet Golden Retriever and got facial transplant? What about this?

It's extremely rare to know that human being was being attack by family dog...

See red bond...

It does the same with pitbull or other dogs as well... It was happeend to neice of my co-worker at 3 years ago... I posted about them in pitbull threads at 3 years ago. Pitbull was raised loving for 5 years until suddenly she hurt neice... She bite and tear niece's underarm and had 18 or 20 stitches... The owner were terrible upset and don't know why pitbull do that... it's too suddenly to them... I know it's not just pitbull but other dogs as well, also cats as well... it drive them crazy and hurt you for no reason...

we've had this debate before. The so-called reputation about pitbull is frequently negatively portrayed by media and I'm very pissed about that. REGARDLESS of dog breed - they're ALL same to me and that's my stance on this issue and that's my expert opinion as a former dog behaviorist. My statement is backed by many reputable dog professionals including Cesar Millan.
 
Actually, let me explain why I use pitbull attack as an example to compare with Chimpanzee attack...

I beleive that you know that chimpanzees are wild everywhere in Africa - they run away and hide in the forest when they see human adult. Yes, they would hurt human adult if he/she go near them or bother them... Sure, they hunt other animals or human baby for foods. Pitbull STILL attack you no matter either you go near them or bother them or not (I remember from read the artical somewhere that a boy killed by pit bull attack when pit bull was out of the owner's property)... The pit bull's owner kept said that she don't understand why her pitbull do that. She described her pitbull as a loving pet....

Like what pitbull's owner said that her pitbull was loving and sweet dog until happened for a first time... like what the people said positive thing what they know Travis...

Yes, I can understand why wild animals should not keep as domestic pet in the house but I don't understand why the people manage to keep pitbulls as the pet when they know their reputation???

I saw on TV about Travis yesterday... It says that it's something do with Xanax to drive Travis crazy... after know Travis as an extremely socialized for long 15 years... He brushed his teeth, dressed himself, went to toilet, watch on TV, opens door etc.... His social behavior skill shows itself that he was being loving raise by his "mom". If his behavior is very bad then she would not keep him at YEARS ago instead of 15 years later... I didn't know that Travis was on TV commericals in the past...

I has to agree that Travis's crazy behavior is something do with Xanax.. I think his "mom" should check with the vet how to calm Travis down first instead of gave Xanax tea to him... I guess it would not happen if "mom" didn't give Xanax to him...

Xanax - THIS IS NOT NORMAL. If the animal is placed on medication especially for depression, anxiety, or any such kind - it's because it's YOU who made it this way. No animal should ever be placed on such depression-related medication. Poor Travis was forced to live in human environment, acted like human, etc. like human. I'm not surprised he was going insane!

CRUEL CRUEL CRUEL!
 
Xanax - THIS IS NOT NORMAL. If the animal is placed on medication especially for depression, anxiety, or any such kind - it's because it's YOU who made it this way. No animal should ever be placed on such depression-related medication. Poor Travis was forced to live in human environment, acted like human, etc. like human. I'm not surprised he was going insane!

CRUEL CRUEL CRUEL!

While it is true that chimps and other apes are related to humans and having similar behaviors as we do but of course, they will NEVER be like us. They are entirely different species than us. We should never treat them as humans when we know that they are not.

Treat them with respect yeah but dont treat them like humans anyway. The owner should've known that...so it may not be the diease or the drug that caused the chimp to go on a rampage as it seems most animal experts are not even surprised that it was like a disaster waiting to happen. Apes should never live the same way as humans...they should live the way as the REAL apes live so I guess thats how life is.
 
One of the advices I've heard from ape experts a long time ago is that when you see a chimp or a gorilla looking VERY angry, NEVER make eye contact with the ape when you see him mad. Look down to the ground and dont make any sudden movements when the ape moves around roaring and beating his chest.

The ape may go away if you dont make any eye contact or whatever otherwise if you did, he may feel insulted or something like that.

So...NEVER mess with a pissed off ape.
 
One of the advices I've heard from ape experts a long time ago is that when you see a chimp or a gorilla looking VERY angry, NEVER make eye contact with the ape when you see him mad. Look down to the ground and dont make any sudden movements when the ape moves around roaring and beating his chest.

The ape may go away if you dont make any eye contact or whatever otherwise if you did, he may feel insulted or something like that.

So...NEVER mess with a pissed off ape.

pretty much the same advice for every animal in hostile situation. eye contact is the act of confrontation. ironically enough - it's same for humans. funny, huh?

WTF U LOOKING AT? :mad2:
 
pretty much the same advice for every animal in hostile situation. eye contact is the act of confrontation. ironically enough - it's same for humans. funny, huh?

WTF U LOOKING AT? :mad2:

Strange as it's known in the Deaf community that when we talk to other ASL users--we have to look at each other in the eye.....
 
Well, if your pets show signs of agressiveness or
something not normal, then maybe you should take
it to the Vet and have it checked out? If the pet
is mentally sick, then maybe that is why they act
out like that. :dunno:
If i had a pet that is not acting normal, then i would
have it put to sleep!

I wouldn't. My first guide dog Bruce started showing agressive behaviour due to being overprotective. He got early retirement and my dad took care of him until he was euthanised but that wasn't because of his behaviour. He had heart and lung problems.

Also some of my rats had behavioural issues too. Rats are very small animals and they never leave the house. I just used gloves and was well stocked up with plasters.
 
Strange as it's known in the Deaf community that when we talk to other ASL users--we have to look at each other in the eye.....

I mean in confrontation - if you do not want to fight, then look at the ground like I dropped my soap :mad2:
 
I wouldn't. My first guide dog Bruce started showing agressive behaviour due to being overprotective. He got early retirement and my dad took care of him until he was euthanised but that wasn't because of his behaviour. He had heart and lung problems.

Also some of my rats had behavioural issues too. Rats are very small animals and they never leave the house. I just used gloves and was well stocked up with plasters.

what's the plasters? To me - it's something you use on the wall to seal the hole or crack.
 
I always look in the eye regardless if there is a confrontation or not.

so you wanna fight. :mad2:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhTMNCPQ9PY]YouTube - funny fight scene in both bridget jones diary[/ame]
 
1st post! I'm jumping right in on a 'hot' thread, yay!

I'm going to cover a few different things, here...

Sorry to be off topic but its important to me!!!!
so help me here.....is it against law in come states/
cities to own boa and python snakes in their homes
as pets? there are some children in the home!! :cold:

First, there are many different species of boas and pythons, and I know many herpers that keep them. Typically, when you hear of someone being injured, it's due to burmese pythons, which get very large and powerful. One person should never attempt to handle a full-grown burmese python alone.

As for allowing the child to handle the snakes, it's really not a big deal. I've handled many snakes, from childhood, and many wildlife education programs have snakes that children can touch, hold etc.

Next topic, pit bulls. Yes, pit bulls have been bred to fight. With other dogs. However, they were also bred NOT to bite humans. When in the fighting pit, if one dog 'locked' (I know this is not literal, but I mean when one has a grip and won't let go) the handlers had to be able to go in and separate the dogs. They did not want the dogs attacking them. Now, I work in a veterinary hospital, I am a dog obedience trainer and I have volunteered with shelters and rescues so I have a lot of experience with dogs of all types. In general, pit bulls are extraordinarily sweet tempered dogs with their people when they have been properly raised and socialized. The problem, though, comes with all of the overbreeding by people that just throw a couple pits together to breed, unsocialized dogs chained up all the time outside. This is a huge problem especially with pit bulls. That and the image that is perpetuated often in poorer parts of inner cities where pit bulls and drug circles go hand in hand.

Finally, exotic pets. I have also worked with wildlife. In college I did internships at a large public aquarium, where I did marine animal rehabilitation and also cared for the patients in the medical center. I strongly disagree with keeping wild species as pets. They are never domesticated, but some do become tame. But they should never be trusted and you must always be vigilant. I did much of my work with wild seals that were being treated for eventual release, but even when I dealt with the resident sea lions, which interacted with their trainers and the public daily, I never let my guard down completely. Even though these sea lions would give kisses to children after perfomances, there were days where the trainers would pull one of the animals off the performance schedule because they were cranky, or not acting quite 'right'.

That's my take, anyway. Oh, and hello everyone!
 
1st post! I'm jumping right in on a 'hot' thread, yay!

I'm going to cover a few different things, here...



First, there are many different species of boas and pythons, and I know many herpers that keep them. Typically, when you hear of someone being injured, it's due to burmese pythons, which get very large and powerful. One person should never attempt to handle a full-grown burmese python alone.

As for allowing the child to handle the snakes, it's really not a big deal. I've handled many snakes, from childhood, and many wildlife education programs have snakes that children can touch, hold etc.

Next topic, pit bulls. Yes, pit bulls have been bred to fight. With other dogs. However, they were also bred NOT to bite humans. When in the fighting pit, if one dog 'locked' (I know this is not literal, but I mean when one has a grip and won't let go) the handlers had to be able to go in and separate the dogs. They did not want the dogs attacking them. Now, I work in a veterinary hospital, I am a dog obedience trainer and I have volunteered with shelters and rescues so I have a lot of experience with dogs of all types. In general, pit bulls are extraordinarily sweet tempered dogs with their people when they have been properly raised and socialized. The problem, though, comes with all of the overbreeding by people that just throw a couple pits together to breed, unsocialized dogs chained up all the time outside. This is a huge problem especially with pit bulls. That and the image that is perpetuated often in poorer parts of inner cities where pit bulls and drug circles go hand in hand.

Finally, exotic pets. I have also worked with wildlife. In college I did internships at a large public aquarium, where I did marine animal rehabilitation and also cared for the patients in the medical center. I strongly disagree with keeping wild species as pets. They are never domesticated, but some do become tame. But they should never be trusted and you must always be vigilant. I did much of my work with wild seals that were being treated for eventual release, but even when I dealt with the resident sea lions, which interacted with their trainers and the public daily, I never let my guard down completely. Even though these sea lions would give kisses to children after perfomances, there were days where the trainers would pull one of the animals off the performance schedule because they were cranky, or not acting quite 'right'.

That's my take, anyway. Oh, and hello everyone!

Oh thats very interesting and thank you for your input!
You are so right about exotic pets cannot be trusted at all and adults
must be present when around children..but still...I would not have
one for myself, no way.
I would say more about other type of domestic animals but i refused
to talk about it as a lot of people dont like them.
 
we've had this debate before. The so-called reputation about pitbull is frequently negatively portrayed by media and I'm very pissed about that. REGARDLESS of dog breed - they're ALL same to me and that's my stance on this issue and that's my expert opinion as a former dog behaviorist. My statement is backed by many reputable dog professionals including Cesar Millan.

Pits are actually a very loyal and very playful breed. Its the sketchy owners of certain pits that force these dogs to become aggressive in order to survive, such as dog fighting or hog dogging, both of which disgust me to no end.

Not saying you're wrong, just further backing up your statement in agreement.
 
I wouldn't. My first guide dog Bruce started showing agressive behaviour due to being overprotective. He got early retirement and my dad took care of him until he was euthanised but that wasn't because of his behaviour. He had heart and lung problems.

Also some of my rats had behavioural issues too. Rats are very small animals and they never leave the house. I just used gloves and was well stocked up with plasters.

What i meant is if the dog or cat has mental problems, like if it
start to attack people or just getting out of control? What would
you do with the animal?
 
Pits are actually a very loyal and very playful breed. Its the sketchy owners of certain pits that force these dogs to become aggressive in order to survive, such as dog fighting or hog dogging, both of which disgust me to no end.

Not saying you're wrong, just further backing up your statement in agreement.

What's "hog dogging"?
 
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