The Origins of Homosexuality

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I agree with Sunshine
 
Daredevel7 said:
...Now, that doesn't really answer one of my original questions which was: how do we know which laws were "fulfilled" and which were not? i.e. which laws from OT were for Christians? Or do Christians only follow the laws of NT? You said "The laws that pertained to sacrifices, feast days, and temple rituals were fulfilled by Jesus Christ on the cross." Does this mean the laws in OT that do NOT pertain to sacrifices, feast days, and temple rituals are still applicable to Christians?
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Sorry, I'm having a hard time keeping up with posts. There seem to be six to eight people posting questions for each one of me to answer, and I'm not able to sit down and systematically reply to each one. I'm trying to get back to AD between the other things I'm doing.

First, to make it clear, none of the laws of the Bible, New or Old Testaments, are the way to salvation or Heaven. Salvation is by grace, not by obeying laws. That has been true since Adam and Eve sinned, and continues to be true always. No one is saved from Hell by obeying the Law.

Now, what does it mean "applicable?" None of the laws are applicable unto salvation. They are applicable for guiding the believer into living a life that pleases the Lord. They are applicable for protection from the world's influences and dangers.

The laws that were specific to keeping the Jews a separate and special group of people were addressed directly to them, for them. There would be no purpose in non-Jews following those laws.
 
Not to derail such an exciting thread.... But isn't the deaf population more accepting of homosexuality? Compared to the general population. It might just be the area where I live but around Maryland/DC area homosexuality is highly accepted within the deaf communities.
 
sallylou said:
I'm reading The Power of Myth by Joseph Campell with Bill Moyers now. He talked about how the 3 great Western religions all claim to be chosen my God and to have God. He believes the problem is that religious institutions don't know how to apply their religious ideas to contemporary life, especially how to include individuals not in a local group (chosen people) but within the whole planet. There's a disconnect between beliefs and reality (as we experience it in the contemporary world). That's why dealing with homosexuality is such a big problem for traditional institutions. Not just religion but all social constructs, including law.
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Apparently, my "religion" is not one of the three great Western religions. Jesus Christ offers salvation to everyone; there are no chosen people when it comes to salvation--it's all about His free offer and our free acceptance. Also, I have no problem applying biblical faith to contemporary life. (Not just me but Christians all over the world have no problem applying biblical faith to contemporary life; it's the contemporary world that has problems accepting biblical Christianity.)

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (II Timothy 3:16)
 
Cheetah said:
Not to derail such an exciting thread.... But isn't the deaf population more accepting of homosexuality? Compared to the general population. It might just be the area where I live but around Maryland/DC area homosexuality is highly accepted within the deaf communities.
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You're not derailing at all. You're closer to the original topic than most of us. :lol:
 
Reba said:
No, I didn't say the NT contradicts the OT.

Nothing in the NT denies the OT. The NT completes the OT.

The OT Law, which Jesus Himself followed during His life on earth, was not destroyed by Jesus. It was fulfilled by Jesus.

For example, all the rituals relating to the various sacrifices of the OT were temporary practices until the final sacrifice was made by Jesus Christ. Since Jesus made the one-time final sacrifice, no other sacrifices are necessary.
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Riiiight. Nice way to interpret for convenience.
 
Banjo said:
Maybe I should point out the fact that it is the religious right movement who is on a crusade to control people's lifestyles by outlawing them.
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I guess you needed to point it out because I thought the "religious right [political] movement" disappeared about 35 years ago? I suppose every political entity, on every side, wants some control over how things are run.
 
the religious Right disappeared?:shock:

:hmm:not where I am.....
 
Reba said:
I guess you needed to point it out because I thought the "religious right [political] movement" disappeared about 35 years ago? I suppose every political entity, on every side, wants some control over how things are run.
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Disappeared? Dude, I live close to Liberty University!
 
Reba said:
I guess you needed to point it out because I thought the "religious right [political] movement" disappeared about 35 years ago? I suppose every political entity, on every side, wants some control over how things are run.
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:laugh2:
 
Reba said:
I guess you needed to point it out because I thought the "religious right [political] movement" disappeared about 35 years ago? I suppose every political entity, on every side, wants some control over how things are run.
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They disappeared? I don't think many would agree with you on that one.
 
Does anyone have a link to this "movement" and their agenda?
 
Reba said:
No, you don't "gotcha."

It almost seems that you don't even read my responses because I keep repeating myself.

You make it sound like it was no big deal for God to have to take severe measures in order to protect His people. You make it seem like God had no regard for the deaths of people who were under the influence of Satan and sin.

It's not true. It was not God's will that mankind should fall into sin and live under the influence and control of Satan.

Out of the population of the world during OT times, the tribes of Israel needed protection or they would have been either wiped out or totally assimilated by the ungodly nations. Would that be "perfectly fine" with you?
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I suppose my Iraq veteran friends were telling the truth about their "indoctrination" over there. :hmm:
 
Reba said:
It's not true. It was not God's will that mankind should fall into sin and live under the influence and control of Satan.
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God created man yet it was not his intention for man to sin? That was just a boo-boo he made?

Of course he intended man to sin otherwise man would not know what is good from bad.

I am not even going to touch the subject of Satan - that's just ...
 
DeafCaroline said:
God created man yet it was not his intention for man to sin? That was just a boo-boo he made?

Of course he intended man to sin otherwise man would not know what is good from bad.

I am not even going to touch the subject of Satan - that's just ...
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An excuse?:giggle: "The devil made me do it."
 
Beowulf said:
I suppose my Iraq veteran friends were telling the truth about their "indoctrination" over there. :hmm:
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I have no idea since I don't know what their "indoctrination" was.

Since I was referring to the period of the Jews' exodus, I don't know how that relates to what Iraq veterans are experiencing now. You'll have to provide more information.
 
Reba said:
I have no idea since I don't know what their "indoctrination" was.

Since I was referring to the period of the Jews' exodus, I don't know how that relates to what Iraq veterans are experiencing now. You'll have to provide more information.
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They were told that the people of Iraq were godless and that to battle against them is to battle against Satan. :|
 
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