Texas inmate, 67, set for execution in slayings 31 years ago

diehardbiker said:
What does Matt and sweat have to do with this thread? This thread is about executing 67 years old man.
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I was questioning your reasoning about death penalty and legal system...
 
Jiro, now you are starting to see your own mistake! Its because your just human being like myself, the judge of the law, Prosecutor, DA, jurors, and so on could make mistakes.
 
diehardbiker said:
Is there any possibility? Only sane man could call this a possibility.

but does this thread talking about escaped felon, eh?
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deflection much? sorry. it's not working well for you.

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diehardbiker said:
Jiro, now you are starting to see your own mistake! Its because your just human being like myself, the judge of the law, Prosecutor, DA, jurors, and so on could make mistakes.
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um.... what? :lol:

my stance has never changed since ever. the use of death penalty should be limited to a more heinous crime... like Richard Matt and David Sweat.
 
My stance has never changed since ever, no one should be executed UNTIL the system proves to run perfectly. How can you prove that? Really, you can't prove because many of facts or information within judicial system often withheld from the public, often they were sealed in some form. Because of hidden information exists, how could we trust those people doing their job properly?

Have you seen transcriptions from any Juror deliberations? What have they discussed about? Were they being honest with their own decision? Were they eager just to get the case close and move on that could result wrong verdict? No one outside of that deliberation room knows exact whats happened inside. That is why its impossible to get fact out except the verdicts.

Jiro said:
um.... what? :lol:

my stance has never changed since ever. the use of death penalty should be limited to a more heinous crime... like Richard Matt and David Sweat.
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diehardbiker said:
My stance has never changed since ever, no one should be executed UNTIL the system proves to run perfectly. How can you prove that? Really, you can't prove because many of facts or information within judicial system often withheld from the public, often they were sealed in some form. Because of hidden information exists, how could we trust those people doing their job properly?
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good luck!
 
CrazyPaul said:
Did she shoplift or not?

If she pled out, she confessed that she sold it to him. You can't say that the cops forced her to do so if she didn't do it.
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No....besides did you miss the part that she did not have her purse it was at home and this is where she stashed the extra meds??
If they have "evidence" against you ...what is a person to do? Keep fighting it and end up going to jail for years or plead out to a lesser crime and go about thwir life....the cop does not care his case is closed....even though it wasn't her that stole it...they did not recover it nor did they even have her purse where she hid it...


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diehardbiker said:
Why are you guys confused?

I am totally against the idea of execution, simple as is, nothing more nothing less all due to nature of human beings that could make mistakes. How hard is it to understand this?
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Its actually really simple.
Strange how some just cant get it.
 
Has anyone asked the victims families or his family cb I imagine many not even born at the time
 
Jezie said:
No....besides did you miss the part that she did not have her purse it was at home and this is where she stashed the extra meds??
If they have "evidence" against you ...what is a person to do? Keep fighting it and end up going to jail for years or plead out to a lesser crime and go about thwir life....the cop does not care his case is closed....even though it wasn't her that stole it...they did not recover it nor did they even have her purse where she hid it...
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I am still confused.

cops says she stashed more in her purse.
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Did the cops give false info? Or maybe she lied to you about it? Maybe you are not aware, a best friend can lie.
 
diehardbiker said:
Why are you guys confused?

I am totally against the idea of execution, simple as is, nothing more nothing less all due to nature of human beings that could make mistakes. How hard is it to understand this?
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I am not confused. You have a right to speak your own mind.

Reba has a very good question for you but you haven't answered it yet.

Would you still complain that innocent people get a lifetime imprisonment instead of death penalty?
 
CrazyPaul said:
I am still confused.

Did the cops give false info? Or maybe she lied to you about it? Maybe you are not aware, a best friend can lie.
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Yes, the cops screwed up...and stuck to their story instead of saying they screwed up...no about the lie I was sitting next to her purse when she called and told me what was going on....

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lifetime prison have chance to exonerate and clear one's name, but once executed, its over and we may never know the guilty one still free on street ready to strike. Once executed, case close, there is no turning back.

Lifetime, plenty of chances to prove innocent
Death is final, no more chances, potential ill-fate final mistake if they are innocent.

CrazyPaul said:
I am not confused. You have a right to speak your own mind.

Reba has a very good question for you but you haven't answered it yet.

Would you still complain that innocent people get a lifetime imprisonment instead of death penalty?
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diehardbiker said:
lifetime prison have chance to exonerate and clear one's name, but once executed, its over and we may never know the guilty one still free on street ready to strike. Once executed, case close, there is no turning back.

Lifetime, plenty of chances to prove innocent
Death is final, no more chances, potential ill-fate final mistake if they are innocent.
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OK, that's a good answer. However, if a prosecutor can prove that the right person is a killer, I want him/her dead while you don't. :hmm:

My point is that if a person hears that there's no more death penalty, that person will kill someone and if s/he gets caught, it doesn't matter to him/her because s/he knows that the heart of his/her will still be beating. Do you think that it's fair that the heart of the killer is still beating while the victim's heart is no longer beating?
 
Does not matter, if we allow one, the other case would try follow by saying, hey that previous case allows execution why not this one which leads more arguments. If death penalty remain banned, then there won't be any future argument thus saving legal costs in the long run.


CrazyPaul said:
OK, that's a good answer. However, if a prosecutor can prove that the right person is a killer, I want him/her dead while you don't. :hmm:

My point is that if a person hears that there's no more death penalty, that person will kill someone and if s/he gets caught, it doesn't matter to him/her because s/he knows that the heart of his/her will still be beating. Do you think that it's fair that the heart of the killer is still beating while the victim's heart is no longer beating?
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diehardbiker said:
Does not matter, if we allow one, the other case would try follow by saying, hey that previous case allows execution why not this one which leads more arguments. If death penalty remain banned, then there won't be any future argument thus saving legal costs in the long run.
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Remember the Boston bomber? He's found guilty so no death penalty for him? He murdered a little boy!
 
See? You and CP assumed he ALREADY got death penalty... NOT SO FAST!

Yes, the Jury had recommended Death penalty on that Boston bomber that's all, it does NOT mean that Death penalty is official yet!

PLEASE wait until this coming Wednesday, the Judge before the Boston Bomber will make formal decision and can decide whether Juror decision on Death penalty would go forward or NOT! The Judges still holds power blocking Jury death penalty decision.

Foxrac said:
He got death penalty.
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