Terrorist attack foiled aboard U.S. jetliner

Jiro said:
yes and no. 2 flaws -
1. it cannot identify the explosive by their chemical signatures
2. it cannot see inside the human body (meaning - they can hide a bomb in their ass. or... just find a terrorist with a tiny dick and then use the prosthetic penis to hide the bomb in order to fool the scanner :lol: )

Remember - it's just a scanner.. like an x-ray except it can't see thru the body. It's up to screeners to warrant a further inspection or not. Here's a sample of what scanner image looks like -

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Like I said in my previous post - everything has one major flaw - the human error. The screener MAY or MAY NOT miss the object hidden in his underwear.
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Ok. All international airports should have more training dogs to require sniffing bombing devices and powders.
 
Chevy57 said:
Ok. All international airports must have more training dogs to require sniffing bombing devices and powders.
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that can work. a far cheaper and more practical solution. too bad there's not enough bomb-sniffing dogs for this daunting demands. like humans - bomb-sniffing dogs are prone to "canine error".
 
Jiro said:
that can work. a far cheaper and more practical solution. too bad there's not enough bomb-sniffing dogs for this daunting demands. like humans - bomb-sniffing dogs are prone to "canine error".
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If TSA failure for body scanners and bomb-sniffing dogs, passengers take off clothes to be nude. :laugh2:
 
Naked flights would be interesting... :laugh2:

If I can't pee in the last hour of the flight, I'll have to wear Depends! :P

I'm glad that I'm not traveling right now. Driving is looking better and better.
 
Looks like I am not going to drink coffee in the last minute :shock:
 
sallylou said:
Naked flights would be interesting... :laugh2:

If I can't pee in the last hour of the flight, I'll have to wear Depends! :P

I'm glad that I'm not traveling right now. Driving is looking better and better.
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If we go to naked flights I am going nothing but first class. Can you imagine the naked fat of the person next to you crowding into your coach seat!!!! ew!
 
Jiro said:
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it's not the colossal technological failure. it's not the colossal system failure. it's the colossal human error.... the Dutch ticket agent. We can spend millions... if not billions on these fancy expensive security system and gadgets.... but everything has one major flaw - the human error.
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Again, no description for your embedded picture? Yet continue to discriminate against those who may not have access to that picture?

Remember, failure began at stage two (#2 in picture at the ticket counter) when he wasn't flagged since he was not on the no fly list when he should've been. He was already on the terrorist watch list.

He bought a one way ticket...an international, translantic flight. Another flag.

He bought his ticket with cash. Another flag.

He didn't bring a luggage. Another flag.

His flight originated out of Africa. Another flag.

He didn't have a passport yet he was able to get on the plane to fly out of Africa by portraying himself as a Sudanese refugee . Another flag.

Yet with all these flags the "system" failed and broke down along the way. Some people actually think this "system" is a successful one. Incredible.
 
CNN said he is on terrorist watch list after AbdulMutallab's father made information about plots at US embassy in Nigeria.

Like Jiro said, we aren't fascist to make judge on person that who bought one way ticket from Europe to US since it could happen in many situation, if you are American and fly to Europe so planned to stay for 1 week but turned into family emergency or become too sick to stay so you have buy one way ticket for return to US.

There's need extra security, probably x-ray need be improved and able to see private area or need trained dogs to detect the bomb or other methods that recommended to stop the terrorist.

We don't have any terrorist attack after 9/11 but rest are usually plot and failure to attempt or fail to bomb it.
 
kokonut said:
Again, no description for your embedded picture? Yet continue to discriminate against those who may not have access to that picture?
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It is getting old. Please refer to this post. Time to find a new line!

kokonut said:
Remember, failure began at stage two (#2 in picture at the ticket counter) when he wasn't flagged since he was not on the no fly list when he should've been. He was already on the terrorist watch list.

He bought a one way ticket...an international, translantic flight. Another flag.

He bought his ticket with cash. Another flag.

He didn't bring a luggage. Another flag.

His flight originated out of Africa. Another flag.

He didn't have a passport yet he was able to get on the plane to fly out of Africa by portraying himself as a Sudanese refugee . Another flag.

Yet with all these flags the "system" failed and broke down along the way. Some people actually think this "system" is a successful one. Incredible.
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all of which... are typical situations that Amsterdam deals with on regular basis - the Sudanese Refugees. Again - who in their right mind would let a man aboard the flight with no passport?

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I flew to Detroit, Michigan ( Romulus ) last week on Dec. 23rd before I hopped on another plane for Wisconsin. Two days later on a Christmas Day, it announced on the News about what happened in Detriot, Michigan. :-o
I never knew or thought that it will happen just in a COUPLE DAYS later. On, January 2nd, Saturday -- I won't be flyin' to Detroit, Michigan to take me home to Florida. My destination has already been set on the 23rd of December FOR January 2nd... and THAT I will be flyin' to Atlanta, GA to take me home to Florida.

And, of course, I am still in Wisconsin to spend with my daughter and grand daughters. I will be home on 2nd of January after New Year Day. :)

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010, ADers!!
 
Members of the Allied Pilots Association, the pilots’ union at American Airlines, said Wednesday that the U.S. Transportation Security Administration didn’t do enough to warn in-air flight crews of the Christmas Day terrorist threat on a Northwest Airlines flight.

In a letter to American Airlines pilots, the APA called for better communications at the time of potential security threats. “Some pilots were left out of the loop” when the TSA told management at American, a unit of AMR Corp. (AMR), and other airlines, to contact only the pilots of inbound transatlantic flights. The Northwest flight came into Detroit from Amsterdam. To ensure overall safety, “The TSA should have mandated that information about this security event be passed on to all airborne flights,” the APA Government Affairs Committee wrote.
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American Air Pilots:All In-Air Crews Should Be Warned Of Attacks

An example of how this "system" failed.

A high-ranking counterterrorism official told CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier Wednesday that U.S. intelligence agencies “knew Al Qaeda was promising a Christmas surprise” but weren’t able to piece together the details in time to prevent the attempted bombing of a Northwest Airlines flight arriving in Detroit.

“We’d been tracking this stuff for months, without being able to connect the dots of what was happening, and what was going to happen,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “The problem is they get 8,000 messages a day at the [National Counter Terrorism Center]. But we couldn’t come up with something that was credible … so we assumed al Qaeda was still in the planning stages.”
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Official: We Knew Al Qaeda Planned "Christmas Surprise" - World Watch - CBS News

You have a "system" that failed miserably when red flags are concerned. Even this one that was eerily the same involving chemicals in a plastic syringe that took place a month ago.

Somali Arrested at Airport With Chemicals, Syringe - ABC News
 
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