Terrorist attack foiled aboard U.S. jetliner

Jiro said:
just left a message. will let you know. mind you - only Terminal C is under lock-down. how unlucky of him to be in Terminal C....
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I'd be fuming if I were him.
 
my friend just boarded a plane.
 
A Nigerian Suicide bomber???

Damn, and I thought they were just after our money.

Oh wait... maybe he was trying to get even from all those smart Americans who phish those Nigerian scammers to do stupid shit in order to GET our money...

On the serious side... this won't bode well with airport security from now on... probably have to walk through dozens of screening stations just to get IN the airport let alone on a plane.
Sheesh.
 
I'm apologize about being anti-muslim in other thread after I got memory about Iranian Americans in 5 years ago so I almost lost the memory and make any comment against Muslim about terrorist aren't good so my point is just refer to Al Qaeda, Taliban and other extremists whoever attack us, that just promote a big concern for me, especially 9/11 and Ft. Hood shooting so I don't blame on all Muslims but just Al Qaeda or extremists.

Mod, please don't remove my post because I had issued an apology about situation in other thread that got locked.

Now, I never understand why does Al Qaeda is favor to attack our country.
 
Reba said:
"...Doctors said he [Mutallab] may need skin grafts as a result of burns he suffered allegedly attempting to ignite the explosive device...."
Failed detonator saved Northwest flight | abcactionnews.com

That's OK by me. Do you know what doctors commonly use for skin grafts for burns? That's right, PIG SKIN! Go for it. :twisted:
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yeah, you don't want get burn in the US if you are a Muslim. More likely, they will save your life and put pig skin on you.

Other than that, they also make skin from adult stem cell (or at least skin tissue, they know how to multiply it and form extra skin)
 
Reba said:
"...Doctors said he [Mutallab] may need skin grafts as a result of burns he suffered allegedly attempting to ignite the explosive device...."
Failed detonator saved Northwest flight | abcactionnews.com

That's OK by me. Do you know what doctors commonly use for skin grafts for burns? That's right, PIG SKIN! Go for it. :twisted:
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I never knew they use pig skin for burns. :-o I am just wonderin', if they smell like pig after puttin' pig skin on burn patients ? Or are they usin' some kind of chemical to get rid of its smell before puttin' it on burn patients ? I am not sure, if I understand how it works. Sometimes, I wonder if "wonder" works. :lol:
 
Maria said:
I never knew they use pig skin for burns. :-o I am just wonderin', if they smell like pig after puttin' pig skin on burn patients ? Or are they usin' some kind of chemical to get rid of its smell before puttin' it on burn patients ? I am not sure, if I understand how it works. Sometimes, I wonder if "wonder" works. :lol:
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Pig (porcine) skin graft material is sterilized and specially prepared before using. They don't just go out to a barn yard and hack off a slab of skin. :lol:

Allografts and xenografts

Cadaveric grafts and porcine grafts are skin substitutes that have been used clinically for several decades. Cadaveric grafts are termed allografts, or homografts, because they are transplanted from one individual to another within the same species. Pig skin grafts are termed xenografts, or heterografts, because they are transplanted from an organism of one species to that of a different species. These may be prepared for use in several ways. They may be treated with glycerol and rapidly frozen with liquid nitrogen or they may be lyophilized and freeze-dried.

Both allografts and xenografts are biologic dressings only, are ultimately rejected by the patient’s immune system, and need to be removed prior to definitive wound treatment or skin grafting. While xenografts are rejected before undergoing revascularization, allografts initially undergo revascularization but are typically rejected after approximately 10 days because of the strong antigenicity of skin. One notable exception occurs in immunocompromised patients, such as burn patients, whose rejection of allografts may be delayed up to several weeks. Xenogeneic tissue such as porcine xenograft can be used as a temporary dressing for clean partial-thickness wounds and has been shown to assist in reepithelialization of large defects such as major burns by stimulating granulation tissue formation. Products such as Permacol (Tissue Science Laboratories, Hampshire, UK) include modifications to porcine xenograft that extend the lifespan and microbial resistance of the graft.
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Skin, Grafts: eMedicine Plastic Surgery

Many of the microorganisms which infect animals are well known, and animals raised to be sources of xenotransplant organs would be cared for with very high standards of cleanliness. Most microorganisms could be screened out of a pig herd so that only animals known to be free of them would be used as xenotransplant sources.
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Public Consultation on Xenotransplantation - Viewpoints s - Issues - Scientific Issues Raised by Xenotransplantation
 
Reba said:
Pig (porcine) skin graft material is sterilized and specially prepared before using. They don't just go out to a barn yard and hack off a slab of skin. :lol:
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Maybe, just this one time, they could do it that way. I would use the skin from the very back end...:giggle:
 
update - White House reveals secret cooperation with AbdulMutallab family

Washington (CNN) -- Senior Obama administration officials revealed late Tuesday they've secretly gained the cooperation of family members of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to help get the alleged Christmas Day airline bomber talking.

The cooperation effort has led to actionable intelligence that could help prevent terror attempts on U.S. soil, the senior officials said.

The revelation is part of an aggressive attempt by the White House to push back on Republican claims the Obama administration mishandled the terror investigation, with Abdulmutallab being read his Miranda rights shortly after he began cooperating with investigators.

After giving the U.S. some information in the early stages of the probe, AbdulMutallab stopped talking about his attempt to blow up an airliner with a bomb hidden in his underwear.

The senior administration officials disclosed that on January 1, just days after the attempted terror attack, two FBI agents secretly flew to Lagos, Nigeria, to meet with officials of the CIA and the State Department. They began an extensive investigation and tried to work with AbdulMutallab's family in hopes of gaining his cooperation.

The U.S. officials later traveled to Nigeria's capital city, Abuja, and eventually gained the trust of two unidentified relatives of the suspect.

On January 17, the FBI agents secretly flew back to the U.S. with the two relatives in order to work with the suspect.

One senior Obama administration official said the family members privately conveyed to the suspect they "had complete trust in the U.S. system" and they believed he "would be treated fairly" by the Obama administration.

The senior administration officials said that since AbdulMutallab began talking to investigation again last week, he has been cooperating on a daily basis. The officials added the information gained from the interrogations has been disseminated throughout the intelligence community.

One of the senior Obama officials, who bluntly said the Republican attacks have "frustrated the hell out of me," asserted that gaining the trust of the family was the best way to handle the case and helped the administration gain valuable intelligence from the suspect, who is believed to have ties to an al Qaeda affiliate in Yemen.

"It could be used to disrupt other attacks," one of the senior Obama officials said of the intelligence gleaned from Abdulmutallab in the interrogations, who added the president has been getting regular updates on what the suspect has been revealing.

Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, the top Republican on the Homeland Security Committee, charged Saturday in the GOP weekly radio and Internet address that the White House botched the handling of Abdulmutallab.

"The Obama administration appears to have a blind spot when it comes to the war on terrorism," she said.

In releasing the new information, senior administration officials were direct about saying they're trying to show the case has been handled properly and the Obama administration is doing all it can to keep the country safe from future attacks.

One of the senior administration officials said, "We are in a very active war against al Qaeda" and "very experienced individuals who know what they're doing" are handling the interrogations well, despite the charges by Republicans.

"We'll leave it to them, not politicians in Washington," said this senior administration official.

A second senior administration official suggested that the U.S. did not lose any valuable intelligence by taking extra time to get the suspect's cooperation through his family.

Pressed on reports suggesting the intelligence being gained in the new interrogations is not stale, this second official said: "I would not disagree with that at all."
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I'm not comfortable at all on how they dealt with this at all :ugh:
 
Not good at all.

BTW Jiro.....Proving I can be convinced to change my mind from time to time. I am leaning toward calling Fort Hood workplace violence now :shock:

Don't rub it in....
 
TXgolfer said:
Not good at all.
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I've already said this many times and I'll say it again. Democratic Party's serious weakness is its incompetence in handling national security and war policy. I detest its soft stance style on foreign policy as well. This disturbing news just further proved my belief about Democratic Party. And even more disturbing... White House is bragging about how they got the vital information from him just by flying in 2 relatives to make him confess to us???? :roll:

I'm sorry but the information he gave out to us which was like over a month old is basically useless. When captured - the information is only good for probably up to 24-48 hours. After that - they're all gone. Al Queda is not that stupid. That's why we have CIA/Gitmo Camp and FISA for this. That's why GWB's War Policy & Rumsfeld Doctrine with some refinements are better equipped for this. It's ruthless. It's effective. and It's quick.

TXgolfer said:
BTW Jiro.....Proving I can be convinced to change my mind from time to time. I am leaning toward calling Fort Hood workplace violence now :shock:

Don't rub it in....
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j/k
 
Jiro said:
I've already said this many times and I'll say it again. Democratic Party's serious weakness is its incompetence in handling national security and war policy. I detest its soft stance style on foreign policy as well. This disturbing news just further proved my belief about Democratic Party. And even more disturbing... White House is bragging about how they got the vital information from him just by flying in 2 relatives to make him confess to us???? :roll:

I'm sorry but the information he gave out to us which was like over a month old is basically useless. When captured - the information is only good for probably up to 24-48 hours. After that - they're all gone. Al Queda is not that stupid. That's why we have CIA/Gitmo Camp and FISA for this. That's why GWB's War Policy & Rumsfeld Doctrine with some refinements are better equipped for this. It's ruthless. It's effective. and It's quick.
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Yeah foreign policy and taxes are my beef. I couldn't care less about most of the social stuff. I do think war time is a bad time to be debating don't ask don't tell though
 
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