Tax between Europe and any countries in the world

ravensteve1961 said:
And Doctors should be paying for these
a county or city medical tax.
a medical license.
a for registration fee.( Private Pratice only)
a Building permit fee ( Private Pratice only)
malpratice insurance.
malpratice insurance local percentage tax.

Instead of driving away in BMWs and living big luxery homes.


Do you mean that you have to pay the charge when you visit doctor? Do you have healthy insurance? If yes, why can´t they cover the cost for you when you visit Doctor?
 
Here in Washington state, USA

Gas tax about 30 cents per gallon
federal income tax around 28%, WA state does not have income tax
sales tax 8.875 or 8.9%, rounded up
car registration tax 1.4 and 0.3% for mass transit funding for 3 counties in Seattle metro area
cigarette tax is among one of the highest in the US

in the US, we GO to docotors office and we pay a hefty price, that's why we have health insurance to cover it.
 
Oh yes cigarette tax! I forget about this. Thank you for remind me :thumb:
 
Thanks for the explanations.

Liebling:-))) said:
Not allow? How could the priest get the money to improve/renovate their churches?
Most American churches, synagogues, mosques, assemblies, etc., are supported by their members or church associations. Americans have freedom of religion. That means that the government cannot force someone to pay support to any religious organization.

Example: I am a member of an independent Baptist church. The members pay all the expenses of the church. That includes church building and land, utilities, pastor and staff salaries, supplies, missionary support, and all other costs.


No, We don´t choose which church we want to pay.
What if your money supports a church that you don't believe in? Why do Protestants support Catholic churches, and why do Catholics support Protestant churches? What if a church is neither Protestant nor Catholic? What about Jews and Muslims? Or JWs, Mormons, or Seventh Day Adventists, or any other non-Protestant, non-Catholic church?

The Catholic & Protestant churches rely on taxpayers is support every priest to financie their churches like improve/renovate their churches, bless weddings, funerals, baptisms and other regligious ceremonies etc.
Why?


Solidarity Tax

Another quirk of the German tax system is the so-called ‘Solidaritaetszuschlag’ (solidarity surcharge), which is levied on every citizen to help meet the enormous costs of rebuilding the former communist eastern part of the country. The surcharge is currently running at 5.5 percent of the amount of income or of company tax.
Oh, I see. Well, of course we don't have a solidarity tax in the U.S. :)

Also, we don't have VAT.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
NOW WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET A RENTAL CAR FOR $10 A DAY?
Dont be fooled if youre on allstate. Allstate is the biggest con artist bunch of guys will do anything to take advantage of you. You might be ok for now but when something happens to your car or your home and you have allstate better watch out cause youre gonna be short of the stick. I know a lady whos home was destroyed by hurricane last year she had allstate.She lost everything in her home. They told her they couldnt give her a R.V to live in.Allstate told her contact F.E.M.A and they probily give you an R.V well F.E.M.A told her they couldnt give her an R.V cause the R.V has to be on her property which was impossibile to do. and she had to spend her life savings just to live in a R.V . If you have allstate heres an advice CALL AND CANCELL YOUR POLICY cause youre gonna get hooked just like me,my brother and this lady.

perhap the lady don´t have insurance for the house?

Yes we have insurance for our house.
 
Liebling...

In the United States, our salary is garnished about 20 percent for taxes, social security, etc... Some of that percentage goes to the state government and other percentage goes to the federal government. Every year in the beginning of the year, we have to file for our tax rebates. We file to both the State and to the IRS (Federal). We receive a cheque from each of them as a rebate on our taxes we pay. For example, if a person made 650$, he would bring home only like 550$.

Then you have the taxes imposed on things that you buy.
Utah has a State sales tax of 4,75% plus local taxes. Each city can impose their own taxes and add to the State sales tax. The city of Salt Lake City does not impose any taxes, however the County of Salt Lake does. The tax rate can vary from 5,75% to 7% , and is added to your sales. The prices shown on the sales shelves is "before taxes," unlike Germany where taxes are already included in the shelf price. In Germany, the cash register machine will caculate the taxes and print it out on the receipt. You simply never think about paying additional. If it says 2,50 euros on the shelf, that's what you pay, cos taxes is already included. In USA, it is 2,50$ plus taxes.

Restaurant taxes is usually one percent higher.

Property taxes: tax rates ranges from 0.87% to 1.2% of market value on residential property. If your house is worth $150,000, then you need to pay $1,305 for one year for your property tax.

Gasoline taxes: a Federal tax of 18.4 cents and Utah tax of 24.5 cents is added to the base price.

Church taxes is something that members do themselves. In Utah, the most dominant religion is the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints (Mormons). They are expected to pay 10 percent of their salary to the church, and this is called tithe. I am not a member of any church, therefore I do not pay any tithe.

Some states have a monopoly on liquor sales, forbidding sales of hard liquor in "liquor stores." In Utah, this is the case. In order to purchase hard liquor, you have to go to one of the 22 State Liquor stores in the state. 22 does not sound much, but Utah is not a very populated area, plus about 50 percent of the population does not drink anyhow. The profits from these stores go to the State budget.

Beer, Cigarette and tobacco taxes goes also to the state budget.

In summary, 47.8% of the Utah state budget comes from Income taxes. Another 39.8% of the budget comes from Sales and Use taxes. The rest are from other taxes such as liquor profits, tobacco taxes, etc...

As for what the State government uses these taxes to spend on...
A surprising 44.9% of the State budget is spent on Public Education.
Then next 16.4% goes to Higher Education.
8.1% to capital/debt.
7.8% to health care.
6.6% to corrections (prisons, etc..)
 
Federal and state income taxes, Social Security and Medicare, and AFLAC payments are withheld from my salary. My Hubby is self-employed, so he doesn't get a paycheck. His customers pay him, and then he pays his taxes. Every year we file for our taxes, and usually pay another $6,000 in addition to the federal IIRS) and state (South Carolina) taxes that have already been withheld from my pay, and from what Hubby pays. We never get a "rebate" or refund.

Our local sales tax is 6%, except for the city of Charleston (6.5%). (The city of Charleston also has a "hospitality tax" for hotels and restaurants, which makes the total 10%.) We don't have VAT, so the sales tax is added onto the purchase price. We pay sales tax on everything, including food. (Some other states don't charge sales tax for groceries. Also, some state do not have state income tax.)

Property taxes vary from community to community; there is no one rate. I can only give you the example of our house. Our house value is about $180,000. Our tax for the house is $1,500.

County taxes support the public schools, sheriff's department, library, and road maintenance. City taxes support police department, trash, lawn debris and recycling pick up, fire department, and EMS.

South Carolina also charges "personal property" tax for boats, cars, trucks, motorcycles, and mobile homes. The tax for vehicles is determined by its retail value and age. The older the car, the lower the tax. Hubby pays about $230 per year for his van, and about $250 per year for my car.

Church taxes are illegal in the United States. We voluntarily give our money to our local church. Every week we give at least 10% of our gross income to our church as tithe. We give additional money at church to support missionaries, building fund, special projects, and to help other people with emergencies (such as medical bills, car repairs, moving expenses).
 
The Feds take a pretty huge bite out of my paycheck...ouch!

Fed Tax
SS Tax
Medicare Tax

These taxes are taken out of my check right AFTER payroll takes out my 401k retirement and health insurance (I just had my health insurance premiums go up thru roof in the last 5 years *thud* )

But then it doesnt end with my paycheck 'cause I pay 9.25% Tennessee state/Knox County combined sales tax, tags for my car (at $24 plus Knox County is expected to put in an additional "wheel tax" on top of the state tag fee), gas tax, ciggie tax, liquor tax, you name it.

remember this quote always:

In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes
-- Benjamin Franklin
 
Reba said:
Most American churches, synagogues, mosques, assemblies, etc., are supported by their members or church associations. Americans have freedom of religion. That means that the government cannot force someone to pay support to any religious organization.

Example: I am a member of an independent Baptist church. The members pay all the expenses of the church. That includes church building and land, utilities, pastor and staff salaries, supplies, missionary support, and all other costs.

Yes, Government do not force his people to pay church tax only if they have different belief than Roman Catholic or Protestant. They don´t have to pay church tax. You can make an application for the reason that you withdraw church tax and support your own beliefs or non-reglious. Alot of East Germans are non-reglious and dont pay church tax.
Government only support Catholic and Protestant churches because the both reglious are the popular in this country. Church tax go to Catholic and Protestant churches for building, renovation, utilities, blessing etc.
We don´t have to pay anything for priest´s blessing on confirmation, wedding, funeral, etc. because we are church taxpayer. I can withdraw from church tax if I want to but I didn´t for my children´s sake because alot of children went to church in village where I live. It look bad if my children are left out in the village if they are non-reglious... They can´t attend confirmation, etc. etc. etc. to share with other children.. Government don´t support kind of reglious like muslim, jews, Christian, Jevah Witness, etc. with their churches because this beliefs are not belongs their pride country. All what they do is get donation from people, support each other etc themselves. They goes well without get the support from German Government.


What if your money supports a church that you don't believe in? Why do Protestants support Catholic churches, and why do Catholics support Protestant churches? What if a church is neither Protestant nor Catholic? What about Jews and Muslims? Or JWs, Mormons, or Seventh Day Adventists, or any other non-Protestant, non-Catholic church?

No, They know which reglious I am and which area I live, then tax go to catholic churches because I am catholic. Example, I am catholic and live in Bavaria, then tax go to any catholic churches around Bavaria.

I applied that my tax should go to protestant churches in Bavaria because my hubby and children are protestants and the village where we live are also Protestants, too. They respect my wish.

Like what I mention in my earlier post that Government support only catholic and protestant churches. Other beliefs have to manage themselves thru donation, charities, etc... It´s good that Government respect different belief´s wish for not pay church tax but support their own beliefs because they are not belong to catholic or protestants.

I alway get the tax refund from tax churches every year due how much they spend churches renovation, building etc....






Because we are church taxpayers... See my posts above.


Also, we don't have VAT.

See this explanation.
http://www.eurunion.org/legislat/VATweb.htm

We have 2 different VAT (Value Added Tax) 7% and 16% here in Germany.
16% VAT are including materials, furniture, resturants, fast foods, clothes, shoes etc. etc. etc. except foods/drink. 7% VAT are included foods, drinks, groccer, newspapers, magazines etc.

I am going to scan my bill to show you the example later that we do not need to pay extra like America.

Could you please scan to show me the example of US bills?
 
wow, thank you for sharing cons/pros posts with us here. :thumb:

All what I see that Property taxes in your country are expensive than Germany.

I paid $250.00 tax property a year due measure of my house and property. No matter how much the house/property cost but measure. Example large like castle/villa would cost more than $1,000 tax property a year.


Yes, I forget to add, thank you for remind me K75.

Cigarettes, Tabaccos, alochoc and coffee have different taxes included with VAT but I dont know how many %.


I will add the bill here to show you this evening. :thumb:
 
very interesting...

which bill u want to see? i can do several ones.. but i dunno what kind of bill :/

here in minnesota.. we pay sales tax of 6.5% we don't pay sales taxes on food and clothings.

however the cig. and liqour have high sales tax, i dunno what % though..

hotels are high 15% tax.... if you buy a high price item like auto, house, land.. the taxes are lower than the sales tax.

property tax.. i think i pay .7% of the house value. however i normally get half of my property tax refund (it all depends on how much u earn)

federal and state tax.. it withheld out of my check... however i get them all back the end of the year (accually more than what i'm paying) so i get extra cash in my pocket.

:cheers:

not to mention.. i heard the most richest man in world (bill gates) i heard he pays near 1 billion dollars a year in income taxes :jaw:
 
Wow, I am so glad that our Founding Fathers ensured that the United States could not have a state supported church! It sounds so scary.

Liebling:-))) said:
...Government only support Catholic and Protestant churches because the both reglious are the popular in this country. Church tax go to Catholic and Protestant churches for building, renovation, utilities, blessing etc.
We don´t have to pay anything for priest´s blessing on confirmation, wedding, funeral, etc. because we are church taxpayer. I can withdraw from church tax if I want to but I didn´t for my children´s sake because alot of children went to church in village where I live. It look bad if my children are left out in the village if they are non-reglious... They can´t attend confirmation, etc. etc. etc. to share with other children.. Government don´t support kind of reglious like muslim, jews, Christian, Jevah Witness, etc. with their churches because this beliefs are not belongs their pride country. All what they do is get donation from people, support each other etc themselves. They goes well without get the support from German Government...They know which reglious I am and which area I live, then tax go to catholic churches because I am catholic. Example, I am catholic and live in Bavaria, then tax go to any catholic churches around Bavaria.

I applied that my tax should go to protestant churches in Bavaria because my hubby and children are protestants and the village where we live are also Protestants, too. They respect my wish.

Like what I mention in my earlier post that Government support only catholic and protestant churches. Other beliefs have to manage themselves thru donation, charities, etc... It´s good that Government respect different belief´s wish for not pay church tax but support their own beliefs because they are not belong to catholic or protestants.

Other than the government wanting to control religion, I don't understand why the government would use tax dollars to support churches.

I also don't understand this statement: "jews... because this beliefs are not belongs their pride country"; I got a chill when I read that.
 
See this bill of Saturday. You will know how much you pay VAT and which 7% and 16% VAT.

 
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Reba said:
Wow, I am so glad that our Founding Fathers ensured that the United States could not have a state supported church! It sounds so scary.

Well, I am against that the ecclesicastical office share my tax to different beliefs because I didn't ask for it. I would get out of church tax if I learn that tax go to different beliefs.

I get church tax refund every year from ecclesicastical office for Protestants when there're overleft.

Catholic and Protestants are the popular in this country than other beliefs.
Why can't other beliefs made the tax rule like what Catholic & Protestants did?


Other than the government wanting to control religion, I don't understand why the government would use tax dollars to support churches.

No, the church taxes are not go to government but ecclesicastical office. It's them who are the responsibly with taxes to share Catholic or Protestants churches. It's not government's job task to control church taxes but the office of tax church.

I also don't understand this statement: "jews... because this beliefs are not belongs their pride country"; I got a chill when I read that.

The government donated churches/grave yard for jews here in Germany after World War II and pay the pension to survivors who had been through in camping.
They donated alot of money to build churches etc for jewish but jews want more and more which it's not acceptance. They only support survivors, not their children/grandchildren or great-grandchildren.
We are not allow to visit jew's churches/graveyard because we are not jew reglious.

Germans are furious and felt it's not right to carry on pay the tax for the children or grandchildren of survivors. It's understandable that the survivors has the right to have pension as long as they are alive. The government agree with his people and stop it. The children/grandchildren should do with their churches themselves. Why can't they make church taxes to improve their churches etc like what catholic & protestant did?



Why should the government support different beliefs? Should we pay our tax for different beliefs?
The government are for Protestants and Catholic. They do not control any churches but an ecclesicastical office for church taxes.

An ecclesicastical office (church offices) for each catholic and protestant separately in area where we lives.
 
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My employer and I paid half of tax from my monthly wage slip (50% - 50%)

Gross tax - Go to Government.
Healthy Insurance - Go to Healthy Insurance company
Church tax - Go to ecclesicastical office (church offices)
Unemployment Insurance - Go to Unemployment Department
Nursing care Insurance - Go to Nursing care office
Pension Insurance - Go to Pension companies (mine is go to Pension Company in Berlin)
solidarity tax - Go to government



The employers are obligate to pay 50% of tax and social insurances for their employees accord German law.

You see that the government only take gross tax and solidarity tax from me, not other taxes.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
My employer and I paid half of tax from my monthly wage slip (50% - 50%)

The employers are obligate to pay 50% of tax and social insurances for their employees accord German law.....

Gross tax - Go to Government.
Healthy Insurance - Go to Healthy Insurance company
Church tax - Go to ecclesicastical office (church offices)
Unemployment Insurance - Go to Unemployment Department
Nursing care Insurance - Go to Nursing care office
Pension Insurance - Go to Pension companies (mine is go to Pension Company in Berlin)
solidarity tax - Go to government

You see that the government only take gross tax and solidarity tax from me, not other taxes.

I'm not sure I unddy. You pay gross and solidarity taxes, but your company paid all the others that you mentioned.

Income taxes/Social Security take out about 20% of my annual pay. If I include sales and property taxes, it's another 1-2%. What about yours? I've read that some European countries are HIGH.
 
ITPjohn said:
I'm not sure I unddy. You pay gross and solidarity taxes, but your company paid all the others that you mentioned.

Income taxes/Social Security take out about 20% of my annual pay. If I include sales and property taxes, it's another 1-2%. What about yours? I've read that some European countries are HIGH.

Yes, I pay taxes/social insurances every month thru wage slip but they are go to different companies/department except gross tax and solidarity tax. Gross tax and solidarity tax go to Government.

We don't have % for Gross tax, solidarity tax and Church tax. Its depend on difference % accord how much gross wages you have - check with tax tablet. (I paid €12 solidarity tax and €15 church tax a month).

Tax card I for single - more tax
Tax card IV for married couple - quite low tax than single
Tax card III and V for married couple - Who has 61% more than his/her wife/husband then take Tax card III for tooo low tax pay and Tax card V for his/her wife/husband.
It would be more low tax if you have a family. You have to go to Tax Office to change if you have more children, unemployment, or more wage yourself... They help us to reduce our tax pay.

Healthy insurance (6.95%)(for medical cost, surgries, therapies, dentist, etc.)
Unemployment insurance (3.25%) (pay unemployment money, education, training, etc.)
Nursing care insurance (0.85%) - (old people homes, take care of old people at home, etc.)
Pension insurance (9.75%) for my future pension.


I already said in my early post that I only pay $250 property tax a year due measure of my house/property. Please read what Americans said about their tax property in their country in my thread. They paid more than $1,000 a year tax property to follow the value of the house in America.

Yes, I pay tax alot but there're some of cons/pros.

Employer pay me 100% if I am sick leave up to 6 weeks. After 6 weeks sick leave, Public Health insurance pay me 80%.

Public Health insurance pay me 100% to watch the kids due my hubby´s illness.
Public Health insurance pay me 100% to take care of my sick kids until the kids are 12 years old.

Public Health insurance paid me 80% and plus 20% from my employer to watch the kids during my hubby´s 3 weeks absence last April (Spa (reba./cure clinic).

I have 30 days leave annual plus 6 speical leave due disabilty a year with full paid and bonus leave paid.
 
In American reciepts, they do not always tell you the exact taxes you pay. It just gives you a total for taxes only. Look at this example:
 

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ravensteve1961 said:
Bullshit reba! Insurance companies DO NOT CARE WHOS FAULT IT IS! cause an accident is an accident! read your policy carefuly. Its says in case of ACCIDENTS!! doesnt say if its not your fault your rates wont go up.

I don't know what type of vehicle insurance you have, But my insurance does not go up if I am at not at fault in the time of the accident. They only raise it up only if I am at fault at the time of the accident.
 
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