Support or Against Cochlear Implants

Support or against CI ?

  • I support CI

    Votes: 22 44.0%

  • I am against CI

    Votes: 10 20.0%

  • I am lost and confused

    Votes: 2 4.0%

  • I am neutral

    Votes: 16 32.0%
  • Total voters
    50
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lumbingmi said:
Cochlear Implants require major surgery and may affect one person's physically while hearing aids do not. So CI is "unnatural".
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Like what? Please educate me here.
 
lumbingmi said:
Cochlear Implants require major surgery and may affect one person's physically while hearing aids do not. So CI is "unnatural".
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Depends what you call "major". It normally takes less than 2 hours and the person goes home as soon as they can drink juice.
 
faire_jour said:
So you are against hearing aids too? All those things are true about aids too.
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You need to re-read my post. I did not say anything about being against hearing aids. Hearing aids and cochlear implants are NOT the same.

It's like comparing laser-eye surgery to eyeglasses. Not the same thing because one option involves actual surgery while the other does not.
 
BradB08 said:
Hearing aids are like prescription eyewear. They do not "cure" deafness (just as glasses do not cure blindness/nearsightedness/etc) but rather they amplify those respective senses.
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And neither does a CI!

It mearly bypasses the part of the ear that doesn't function and uses electrodes instead of the little hairs in the ear.
 
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BradB08 said:
You need to re-read my post. I did not say anything about being against hearing aids. Hearing aids and cochlear implants are NOT the same.

It's like comparing laser-eye surgery to eyeglasses. Not the same thing because one option involves actual surgery while the other does not.
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And I want to remind everyone that you also said that was your personal choice, and had no problem with anyone who made a different choice. No one can really have a complaint about you stating what your personal choice is.
 
BradB08 said:
Hearing aids are like prescription eyewear. They do not "cure" deafness (just as glasses do not cure blindness/nearsightedness/etc) but rather they amplify those respective senses.
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Nobody had stated that cochlear implant was ever a cure for deafness. An implanted individual is still deaf. I don't think there is anything wrong with them wanting to hear more.
 
Lets all make sure that we read BradB08's post correctly:

Again, it's nice to have the option to change it but personally, I don't see the point. Does this mean that I'm against other people doing it? Not at all.

It is the way he feels about CI for himself, and himself only.
 
BradB08 said:
Hearing aids are like prescription eyewear. They do not "cure" deafness (just as glasses do not cure blindness/nearsightedness/etc) but rather they amplify those respective senses.
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Cochear implants do not "cure" deafness either and if deaf child can not benefit from a hearing aid then what else could these hearing parents choose? That's is where the cochlear implant comes in.
 
Angel said:
Cochear implants do not "cure" deafness either and if deaf child can not benefit from a hearing aid then what else could these hearing parents choose? That's is where the cochlear implant comes in.
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How about ASL?

And again, keep in mind that BradB08 said it was the way he felt about a CI as applied to himself, and that he also said that he did not object to any decision anyone else made for themselves.
 
Angel said:
This thread is not about ASL, so please stay on topic. :ty:
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You asked for an alternative solution to HA and CI. ASL is an alternative solution.

BTW, it isn't about HA, either.
 
Angel said:
This thread is not about ASL, so please stay on topic. :ty:
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Threads go off topic all the time. Would you rather ASL not be suggested or promoted? Seems thats a good bit of the problem... :hmm:
 
But it doesn't have to be an "OR"! A person can have the best of both world.
 
faire_jour said:
But it doesn't have to be an "OR"! A person can have the best of both world.
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Absolutely, it can. Unfortunately, the so called professionals rarely see it that way. You are the rare parent that stands up to that misguided advise.
 
But there are people who ARE against it. They are the few who voted "against" the CI. They are the ones who say it is unnatural and makes the user a robot or that it is cultural genocide. It doesn't have to be that way.
 
faire_jour said:
But there are people who ARE against it. They are the few who voted "against" the CI. They are the ones who say it is unnatural and makes the user a robot or that it is cultural genocide. It doesn't have to be that way.
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I would say the majority of the votes against came in before nuetral was added as an option. And there will always be extremists in any realm. I have been around long enough to see the acceptance grow many times over within the Deaf community as in regards to CI.
 
Cheri said:
That's right!!! ;)
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Ah, but how many parents do you know that use ASL with a CI? Or how many professionals at implant centers tell parents that continuing to use ASL after their child is implanted would be beneficial to the child?

Faire Jour is a rare parent that sees the benefit in both, and does not accept the professional's recommendations that she stop signing with her daughter when she is implanted.

It can be the best of both, but how often does that translate to reality?
 
Angel said:
Like what? Please educate me here.
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Galaxyangel once posted information abt people's bad experience with CI - how CI ruined their life and make them more disabled than before. I will PM her to find if she cld find her old post. If not, I ll look it up myself.

faire_jour said:
Depends what you call "major". It normally takes less than 2 hours and the person goes home as soon as they can drink juice.
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Oh really. How come there's "follow up"? My friend who went under knife to get CI and she had to leave school for two weeks so she can "rest" her head on the pillow.
 
Angel said:
This thread is not about ASL, so please stay on topic. :ty:
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Exactly what I was thinking. I knew it was going to come to this: a debate between CI's and communication, as has just about every other CI / HA / Communication thread here. I even said this on page 1. I did not vote because I am not pro-CI, against CI, even neutral. As far as I'm concerned, it is a PERSONAL choice for every adult, and a parental choice for parents making this decision for their child. What language adaption that comes after (or even before, or during) a CI decision is an entirely different issue. As far as I see it, parents opting for a CI for their child doesn't mean that parent will determine their child will be oral-only, or ASL-only, or whatever JUST BASED on a CI. The two are NOT necessarily synonymous. I'm tired of all the "numerous research studies show ..." blah blah blah because, frankly, what works as a "whole" does not necessarily work for an individual. Right now, I am seriously considering a CI, but my thoughts/decisions on that are based on me, and me alone -- with others' feedback, of course, but ultimately, the decision is about me wanting to do this; it is not about what type of communication I already have, what may change with that after -- it is the same with parents making decisions on what seems to work best for their child (after tried and tested methods, as have been indicated by some parents here.) I have always been exposed to the total communication method and that worked well for me, but that had NOTHING to do with a CI. It had EVERYTHING to do with what my parents thought best for me. Me, as an individual.
 
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