Support or Against Cochlear Implants

Support or against CI ?

  • I support CI

    Votes: 22 44.0%

  • I am against CI

    Votes: 10 20.0%

  • I am lost and confused

    Votes: 2 4.0%

  • I am neutral

    Votes: 16 32.0%
  • Total voters
    50
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TechBill said:
This post serves no purposes other than to stir stuff up in this forum and from searching and reading your past old posts that I am not quite suprised to see you post something like this. :roll:
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What's wrong? Can't handle dissenting opinions?

I'm against CIs and have been for years, ever since I turned down a CI when I was 8 years old.
 
faire_jour said:
I understand the concerns there are about implanting very young children, but you can't say that the implant itself is bad. Can't an adult make the decision for themself? How can you say that it isn't ok for them to do?
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Children should be allowed more freedom to decide without the bias of adults or allowing adults to have the final word.

I had that freedom and I decided against a CI. I don't regret it either. I think my life has come out just fine.
 
I have to say I kind of agree with Brad. I do think that some kids should have the abilty to choose whether or not to get CI.
 
BradB08 said:
Children should be allowed more freedom to decide without the bias of adults or allowing adults to have the final word.

I had that freedom and I decided against a CI. I don't regret it either. I think my life has come out just fine.
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So you are against parents making a well informed decision not to give their child a cochlear implant if they have determined it not to be in their child's best interests.

Instead of the parents, best to let an 8 year old make that decision after all most 8 year olds not only possess the reading skills and analytical ability to read and comprehend the available research but are also mature enough to carefully and considerably weigh the pros and cons of the cochlear implant decision....and still finish their homework, get into their PJs and off to bed before 8pm.
 
The poll is too generalized for me here.

I'm neutral on CI for the teens and adults, BUT I'm absolute against hearing parents who force babies/toddlers to have CI and won't allow them learn ASL.

So how can I vote both (neutral and against) in this poll? But at least I have my answer here.

Rick48, you have a good point about the adults' and kids' decisions... yet many of them didn't/don't encourage their CI kids to learn ASL - that is the real problem laying for them ahead in their present and future. You keep failing to grasp the necessaries of learning ASL for their sake. You must be drugged with the AGBAD medicine!
 
deafdyke said:
the first one. I honestly do support them in cases where they are REALLY obviously needed, as well as in cases where there's significent tinitutas, recruitment etc.
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Thanks, that's what I thought you meant but I wanted to be sure.
 
web730 said:
The poll is too generalized for me here.

I'm neutral on CI for the teens and adults, BUT I'm absolute against hearing parents who force babies/toddlers to have CI and won't allow them learn ASL.

So how can I vote both (neutral and against) in this poll? But at least I have my answer here.

Rick48, you have a good point about the adults' and kids' decisions... yet many of them didn't/don't encourage their CI kids to learn ASL - that is the real problem laying for them ahead in their present and future. You keep failing to grasp the necessaries of learning ASL for their sake. You must be drugged with the AGBAD medicine!
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Your lame attempt at a personal attack aside, the topic is cochlear implants not communication methodology choices, so next time when you personally attack someone by stating that they do not "grasp" the issues it would help if you, yourself, understood what are the issues being discussed.
 
web730 said:
The poll is too generalized for me here.

I'm neutral on CI for the teens and adults, BUT I'm absolute against hearing parents who force babies/toddlers to have CI and won't allow them learn ASL.

So how can I vote both (neutral and against) in this poll? But at least I have my answer here.

Rick48, you have a good point about the adults' and kids' decisions... yet many of them didn't/don't encourage their CI kids to learn ASL - that is the real problem laying for them ahead in their present and future. You keep failing to grasp the necessaries of learning ASL for their sake. You must be drugged with the AGBAD medicine!
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That would be a poison more than a medicine!:giggle:
 
rick48 said:
Your lame attempt at a personal attack aside, the topic is cochlear implants not communication methodology choices, so next time when you personally attack someone by stating that they do not "grasp" the issues it would help if you, yourself, understood what are the issues being discussed.
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As CI is inherently tied to communication issues, the two cannot be separated.
 
I couldnt care less for the CIs themselves. I vote nuetral.

I just dont agree with the audists views that come with it from the medical community and AGBad.
 
rick48 said:
So you are against parents making a well informed decision not to give their child a cochlear implant if they have determined it not to be in their child's best interests.

Instead of the parents, best to let an 8 year old make that decision after all most 8 year olds not only possess the reading skills and analytical ability to read and comprehend the available research but are also mature enough to carefully and considerably weigh the pros and cons of the cochlear implant decision....and still finish their homework, get into their PJs and off to bed before 8pm.
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If todays kids weren't coddled so much by their parents, they'd be able to make such a decision.

I don't care if other people like or want a CI. I'm not for banning them. Rather, I think its a very important decision that any kid with an ounce of rational thought, can decide for or against.
 
BradB08 said:
If todays kids weren't coddled so much by their parents, they'd be able to make such a decision.

I don't care if other people like or want a CI. I'm not for banning them. Rather, I think its a very important decision that any kid with an ounce of rational thought, can decide for or against.
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:gpost:
 
BradB08 said:
If todays kids weren't coddled so much by their parents, they'd be able to make such a decision.

I don't care if other people like or want a CI. I'm not for banning them. Rather, I think its a very important decision that any kid with an ounce of rational thought, can decide for or against.
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Since the kids will be the ones who, ultimately, must make the decisions regarding how they wish to live with thier deafness, it would certainly make sense to expose them to that which would allow them to compare all their options. That would include a variety of experience, not just that which is directed toward CI. I am a firm believer in including a deaf child in the decision making process, and also in providing them the experience that allows them to fully understand their options.
 
jillio said:
As CI is inherently tied to communication issues, the two cannot be separated.
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Not true in all cases! My daughter is getting a CI but ASL is her first language and attends a bi-bi school for the Deaf. Just because we are using a different technology on her ear doesn't mean that we are using a different communication plan.
 
jillio said:
As CI is inherently tied to communication issues, the two cannot be separated.
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As has been demonstrated just by the very small sample on this board, there are children and adults with cochlear implants utilizing a diverse range of communication methodologies, thus they not only can be discussed separately, they were in fact being done so in this very thread.
 
jillio said:
Since the kids will be the ones who, ultimately, must make the decisions regarding how they wish to live with thier deafness, it would certainly make sense to expose them to that which would allow them to compare all their options. That would include a variety of experience, not just that which is directed toward CI. I am a firm believer in including a deaf child in the decision making process, and also in providing them the experience that allows them to fully understand their options.
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And I am a firm believer in parents undertaking their parental responsibilities and obligations seriously and making decisions for their children so that their children can be provided with benefits and opportunities as early as possible that will ultimately give them the ability to make real choices and options when they are mature enought to make those decisions for themselves.

Providing or not providing your child with a cochlear implant is but one part of a child's life experience, however, parents delaying or ignoring a decision may not necessarily be in a child's best interests and may actually limit their options.
 
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