Shooting at Ft Hood; 7 dead, 20+wounded

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Fort Hood shooting suspect conscious, talking, hospital says
Fort Hood shooting suspect conscious, talking, hospital says - CNN.com

Fort Hood, Texas (CNN) -- Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in last week's mass shooting at the Fort Hood Army Post, is conscious and talking, according to a spokesman for the Army hospital where he is being treated.

Authorities have not identified a motive in Thursday's attack that left 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

Hasan, a 39-year-old licensed Army psychiatrist who worked at a hospital on the post, has been identified as the suspected shooter. He was shot several times after the attack. On Sunday, he was listed in critical but stable condition and in intensive care at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas.

Hasan's ventilator was removed over the weekend, and he began talking afterward, hospital spokesman Dewey Mitchell said. He is speaking with hospital staff, but Mitchell was unable to say whether Hasan has been speaking with Army investigators.

The development comes a day after Army investigators asked troops and civilians for help gathering clues about the shooting, saying some who fled the gunfire might have evidence.

"The Fort Hood office of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command is seeking any military or civilian personnel who may have left the scene ... with gunshot damage such as damaged privately owned vehicles, personnel clothing, etc.," investigators said in a written statement. "CID is also seeking any military or civilian personnel who may have inadvertently left the scene of this incident with material that could be used as firearms residue related evidence such as shell casings inside the boot, etc."

The statement said such objects would help Army investigators and the FBI "in their bullet trajectory analysis of the scene, to insure the comprehensiveness of the ongoing investigation."

Among the wounded in the shooting was Pvt. Joseph Foster, 21, who was hit in the hip as he prepared paperwork for his January deployment to Afghanistan.

He said he "was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up and yelled 'Allahu akbar' in Arabic and he opened fire," Foster said Monday on CNN's "American Morning."

Foster, 21, said he wasn't clear about whether the gunman said those exact words, noting that "with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things."

Army officials have voiced concern about jumping to any conclusions about the motive, warning about a possible backlash against Muslim soldiers. Other bystanders have reported that Hasan shouted the phrase, which is Arabic for "God is great" and has been used by terrorists as a battle cry.

As of Sunday, 16 gunshot victims remained hospitalized, plus Hasan, spokesman Col. John Rossi told reporters. He did not say where all those hospitalized were being treated. Of the 16, seven were in intensive care, he said.

When Staff Sgt. Alvin Howard's wife heard he was hurt at the post, her feelings were "indescribable," she said Sunday.

Kaneesha Howard told reporters her husband was set to deploy to Afghanistan in January. In 2003, he was deployed to Iraq, she said.

Daughters, Alanna, 9, and Kristen, 7, were shaken by the event.

Alanna said of her younger sister: "She started crying when we went to the hospital because she [had] never seen her dad bandaged up like that."

Howard was shot in the shoulder and was recovering in the hospital, his family said. They were unsure when he would be released.

Authorities have not identified a motive in the attack at Fort Hood's military processing center, where soldiers report before they head to war.

Efforts to assist those affected by the incident, including family members of soldiers at the post, were ongoing, Rossi said. Fort Hood was awaiting the arrival of two specialists in child psychology and disaster management, he said. "This is not just for those directly affected by this tragedy," Rossi said, noting that effects from trauma sometimes are not immediately apparent.

However, he said, soldiers are trained to respond to violence by controlling and securing the scene.

"Their training kicks in, and that's what we saw," Rossi said. "The troubling part of it is it happened here in our own house."

Army Criminal Investigation Command spokesman Chris Grey said Saturday that all evidence indicates that the suspect acted alone and there was no indication of "friendly fire."

The processing center has been moved to another location so its work can continue while investigators work at the crime scene, Rossi said Sunday.

He told reporters he did not know Hasan's schedule on the day of the shooting, but "my understanding is that there was no purpose for him" to be in the processing center.

Rossi said he had visited with Fort Hood Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley -- the civilian officer who confronted and disabled Hasan in a shootout -- and with an injured soldier.

"Truthfully, it was an honor just to be in their presence," he said. But, he said, "I cannot tell you how many times they reiterated to me that this is not about them."

Munley has drawn national praise for her actions. Her husband has been brought in from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, to be with her, Rossi said. In a statement Saturday, Munley's family said she had undergone a second surgery and was in good condition.

The suspect's brother, Eyad Hasan, released a statement Saturday saying the family was in a "state of shock and disbelief over this dreadful news."

He wrote, "I've known my brother Nidal to be a peaceful, loving and compassionate person who has shown great interest in the medical field and in helping others. He has never committed an act of violence and was always known to be a good, law-abiding citizen."

Eyad Hasan said the family has faith in the legal system.

An earlier statement from another family member said Hasan, a U.S.-born citizen of Palestinian descent, had been telling his family that he wanted to get out of the military but had been unsuccessful in doing so.

Rossi said Saturday that Hasan had a late November deployment date to Afghanistan. It was to have been his first overseas deployment.

President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama will attend a Tuesday memorial service for the victims.
 
Other bystanders have reported that Hasan shouted the phrase, which is Arabic for "God is great" and has been used by terrorists as a battle cry.
But let's not jump to any conclusions here.
 
I don't think anyone is denying what he said.

Just we want a secular discussion of the topic.
 
It seems in these kinds of situations we conveniently forget the acts of terrorism against African-Americans perpetrated as "lynchings" <one example of many>over the last couple of hundred years and the acts of terrorism over the 500 hundred years committed against indigenous/First Nations people.

All very tragic.........
No, people haven't forgotten but those events don't have anything to do with what happened at Fort Hood.
 
the ironic thing is that these "good ol' white people" don't even know their own Constitution and laws... and the immigrants can read and write much better than them. Worse of all -they simply blindly shout "I AM PATRIOTIC!" and angrily accuse foreigners of terrorists just to prove to their neighbors that he is part of the "All-Stars American" team. :roll:

McCarthy.. shame on you. McCarthy supporters..... shame on you even more.
McCarthy was against Communist infiltration in America. What does he have to do with what happened at Fort Hood?
 
yep.... our American-version of Berlin Wall that we must break down.....
The Berlin Wall imprisoned people who wanted to escape Communism. What does that have to do with Fort Hood?
 
Same thing as above, but an outside, more neutral, look of it:

Source: CBC News - World - Army-base shooting suspect awake in hospital

Army-base shooting suspect awake in hospital
By CBC News
The man suspected of killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at a Texas military base last Thursday is awake and able to talk, according to medical officials.

The man suspected of killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at a Texas military base last Thursday is awake and able to talk, according to medical officials.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is in stable condition after being taken off a ventilator on Sunday, said Dewey Mitchell, a spokesman at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio.

Hasan, a psychiatrist at the Fort Hood army base, was shot four times ? including at least once in the torso ? by two civilian officers after the Nov. 5 rampage.

Thirteen people ? 12 soldiers and one civilian ? were killed and 30 were wounded when a gunman opened fire in a room crowded with hundreds of soldiers. The dead included a pregnant woman.

Authorities continue to refer to Hasan, 39, as the only suspect in the shootings but would not say when charges would be filed.

They said they have not determined a motive, but investigators are hoping an interview with Hasan will shed light on the reasons behind the deadly attack.

Motives for attack under investigation

Earlier reports had suggested Hasan was scheduled to be sent to Iraq but didn't want to go. Reports also surfaced on the weekend that suggested Hasan's superiors might have missed warning signs that he was increasingly embracing an extremist interpretation of Islamic ideology.

U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman on Sunday asked Congress to determine whether the shootings constituted a terrorist attack and whether warning signs were missed.

"If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have zero tolerance," Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, told Fox News.

"He should have been gone."

Army Chief of Staff George Casey said Sunday investigators needed to fully explore the incident before drawing conclusions on the reasons behind the attack.

"I think the speculation could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers," said Casey on ABC's This Week.

U.S. Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said soldiers and civilians on base were getting counselling in the aftermath of the traumatic incident and said civilians on base, including the family members of soldiers, are receiving special attention.

He cautioned, however, that the real impact of the attack might not be known for some time.

"The problems from [these kinds of events] often don?t occur in the days right after the incident," he said. "They tend to happen down the road 30, 60, 90 days. That?s really what we?re concerned about."

A memorial service honouring victims of the attack is scheduled at Fort Hood for Tuesday. U.S. President Barack Obama has said he will attend.
 
McCarthy was against Communist infiltration in America. What does he have to do with what happened at Fort Hood?

You should be able to know enough to answer your own question. I've posted links about Muslim community fearing backlash and you've already seen some bigoted posted in here. Behavior back then and now is very similar.
 
The Berlin Wall imprisoned people who wanted to escape Communism. What does that have to do with Fort Hood?

racism and bigotry are what imprisoned us from living in harmony with all races in America.
 
You should be able to know enough to answer your own question. I've posted links about Muslim community fearing backlash and you've already seen some bigoted posted in here. Behavior back then and now is very similar.
You posted about "supporters of McCarthy." That means, people who support routing out Communists.
 
racism and bigotry are what imprisoned us from living in harmony with all races in America.
Whose racism and bigotry killed the people at Fort Hood?
 
You posted about "supporters of McCarthy." That means, people who support routing out Communists.

analogy. how about Minutemen then?
 
Whose racism and bigotry killed the people at Fort Hood?

look at post-Fort Hood incidents. Violence, bigotry, and racism went up.
 
analogy. how about Minutemen then?
Do you mean the modern Minutemen? They support protecting our country's borders from illegal crossings. That's all. They don't go digging for illegal aliens all over the country.
 
Do you mean the modern Minutemen? They support protecting our country's borders from illegal crossings. That's all. They don't go digging for illegal aliens all over the country.

Modern Minutemen..... exactly.

Modern Islamic people don't go throwing stones at women for looking at other men and preaching about jihad against America - something that people do not care to understand.

That's all.
 
We live in a violent society. That's what lynchings and killing Native Americans has to do with it. Yes, we're very efficient and technologically advanced in the manner of our killing, but we're still killing people.

What does a man murdering his whole family have to do with it? Learning violence is the answer starts at home. A boy who grows up with an abusive father will likely abuse women, or he may become a psychopath and kill some people.

These are societal problems and that's what makes them hard to solve.
 
We live in a violent society. That's what lynchings and killing Native Americans has to do with it. Yes, we're very efficient and technologically advanced in the manner of our killing, but we're still killing people.

What does a man murdering his whole family have to do with it? Learning violence is the answer starts at home. A boy who grows up with an abusive father will likely abuse women, or he may become a psychopath and kill some people.

These are societal problems and that's what makes them hard to solve.

:ty: nothing to do with Muslims, Islam, Obama, or whatsoever. This is a case of deranged man who is delusional with current events and religion mixed together in his own mind.

You want to get angry at someone? Blame Army for not taking care of this matter prior to this massacre.
 
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