Shooting at Ft Hood; 7 dead, 20+wounded

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Definition of Terrorism from US Department of State
Definitions

No one definition of terrorism has gained universal acceptance. For the purposes of this report, however, we have chosen the definition of terrorism contained in Title 22 of the United States Code, Section 2656f(d). That statute contains the following definitions:

* The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant/*/ targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.
* The term "international terrorism" means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than one country.
* The term "terrorist group" means any group practicing, or that has significant subgroups that practice, international terrorism.

The US Government has employed this definition of terrorism for statistical and analytical purposes since 1983.

Domestic terrorism is probably a more widespread phenomenon than international terrorism. Because international terrorism has a direct impact on US interests, it is the primary focus of this report. However, the report also describes, but does not provide statistics on, significant developments in domestic terrorism.

/*/ For purposes of this definition, the term "noncombatant" is interpreted to include, in addition to civilians, military personnel who at the time of the incident are unarmed or not on duty. For example, in past reports we have listed as terrorist incidents the murders of the following US military personnel: Col. James Rowe, killed in Manila in April 1989; Capt. William Nordeen, US defense attache killed in Athens in June 1988; the two servicemen killed in the Labelle discotheque bombing in West Berlin in April 1986; and the four off-duty US Embassy Marine guards killed in a cafe in El Salvador in June 1985. We also consider as acts of terrorism attacks on military installations or on armed military personnel when a state of military hostilities does not exist at the site, such as bombings against US bases in Europe, the Philippines, or elsewhere.
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Even your own definitions still fit Hasan and his actions. Thank you for proving my point ;)
 
Not exactly...

Key word: "politically-motivated." That's why terrorism was ruled out in Hasan's case.
 
Of course it was politically motivated...he is against the war in Iraq/Afganistan, as he views it as a war against Islam.
 
Eve said:
Of course it was politically motivated...he is against the war in Iraq/Afganistan, as he views it as a war against Islam.
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grasping for straw there, ya know?
 
I don't have to grasp for the truth, ya know
 
updates from CNN

Police officer who shot Fort Hood suspect says she's 'doing well'
Police officer who shot Fort Hood suspect says she's 'doing well' - CNN.com

Killeen, Texas (CNN) -- The civilian police officer hailed as a heroine for ending the shooting rampage at Fort Hood Army Post said Wednesday she was washing her patrol car just before she headed to the bloody scene.

Sgt. Kimberly Munley was cleaning the car and topping off the gas tank, routine duties at the end of her shift, when she heard the report last Thursday that shots had been fired at the Army post, she told Oprah Winfrey via teleconference.

The brief interview was taped to air later in the day on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

Police Senior Sgt. Mark Todd also responded to the scene, where he said they were directed to the Soldier Readiness Processing Center, where soldiers were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq.

Both Munley and Todd didn't know what they were about to face.

"The entire incident was very confusing and chaotic," Munley said. "There was many people outside pointing to the direction that this individual was apparently located, and as soon as I got out of my vehicle and ran up the hill was when things got pretty bad."

Once inside, Munley, who has been trained in active-response tactics, began exchanging fire with the alleged gunman, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a military psychiatrist, authorities said. They said her shots disabled Hasan and halted the attacks.

Thirteen people -- 12 soldiers and one civilian -- were killed.

Munley suffered three gunshot wounds, in both thighs and a knuckle, and remains at Metroplex Adventist Hospital in good condition, authorities said.

"The training does take over," she said when asked about her quick reactions. "In that particular incident, we didn't have much time to think."

"When I got shot, it felt like a muscle being torn out of my leg," she told Winfrey, and added, "I'm doing well."

"Every day is a progress for me, and things are getting better day by day. And emotionally, I'm just hoping that the rest of the officers and the injured and the families of the deceased are healing as well."

Winfrey showed a clip of Metroplex's Dr. Kelly Matlock saying that Munley's first words after the shooting were, "Did anybody die?"

The 34-year-old mother of two said she recalled asking that, and she never lost consciousness after being shot.

"I was very concerned as to who else had been injured," Munley said.

Todd was not injured in the rampage. He said he has been a police officer for 25 years and, before that, was in the Army. This was the first time he had been forced to fire his weapon on the job, he said.

He also said last Thursday began as a "typical day" for him, with only minor incidents.

At first, when he heard the shots from Fort Hood, he thought the soldiers were practicing the traditional rifle volleys they do at memorial services.

During the incident, Todd said he fired his gun over and over as he'd been trained to do.

Munley, whose husband is in the Army, is 5 feet, 2 inches tall and weighs 125 pounds.

Winfrey asked her where she got her nickname, "Mighty Mouse." Munley said her partner at a police department in North Carolina called her that after she was able to help when he was being wrestled for his weapon. The nickname stuck.

Todd said he was grateful that he was able to return safely home to his family at the end of that day.

"I just thank God he missed me," he said.
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14.

An unborn baby was murdered along with her mother.

14. A person is a person no matter how small.
 
kokonut said:
14.

An unborn baby was murdered along with her mother.

14. A person is a person no matter how small.
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please tell that to media and everybody to make the official count to 14. Meanwhile - stick with the fact. the fact is.... the official casualty count is 13.

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Fact is fact.

14 people, dude.

US CODE: Title 10,919a. Art. 119a. Death or injury of an unborn child (thanks Aaron):

(a)
(1) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in conduct that violates any of the provisions of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense under this section and shall, upon conviction, be punished by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct, which shall be consistent with the punishments prescribed by the President for that conduct had that injury or death occurred to the unborn child’s mother.
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US CODE: Title 10,919a. Art. 119a. Death or injury of an unborn child
 
All the facts must be considered. Discounting another innocent life does no justice here.
He'll fry. He's gonna fry and then get fried again down there.
 
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