Secret Nazi hideout believed found in remote Argentine jungle

[CrazyPaul]

huh? promised? never heard of that. why are you making it up? what do you think why we have enough nukes to annihilate this world dozens of times?


oh well. deal with it. Einstein should be proud of the fact that those bombs ended the world war in just few days thus saving millions of lives.

I'm pretty sure if Truman went back in time.. he'd do it again and again and again. like Winston Churchill, Truman had made the best decision ever made in the course of humanity that literally saved the world from tyranny.

that sad picture you showed is nothing comparable to what wars would bring if a-bombs were never dropped. just millions more of deaths and sufferings.

and that sad picture is nothing comparable to what Japanese did to Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Malaysians, and the surrounding neighbors for over 30 years. The Americans ended the war in just few days. Done. The A-bomb prevented the Japanese from attacking the entire west coast. Our a-bombs killed only few hundred thousands Japanese people.... whereas Japanese had killed over 30 millions of people from several countries.

why are you blaming Truman as murderer? why aren't you blaming the Japanese for attacking Pearl Harbor? why aren't you blaming the Japanese to stop fighting after the Germans surrendered? The Japanese ignored our warnings and refused to accept the surrendered and continued to extend the Pacific War. It's their fault for our retaliation. we have nothing to be sorry about especially for that poor guy. he should be angry at Japanese Emperor for causing hell. after all... we helped Japan rebuild its country. can you think of any country which does that? helping to rebuild a defeated enemy's country?

and you're sympathizing with the enemy of the world? go leave this country right now. :roll:

On May 30, Stimson asked Groves to remove Kyoto from the target list, but Groves pointed to its military and industrial significance.[72] Stimson then approached President Harry S. Truman about the matter. Truman agreed with Stimson, and Kyoto was temporarily removed from the target list.[73] Groves attempted to restore Kyoto to the target list in July, but Stimson remained adamant.[74][75] On July 25, Nagasaki was put on the target list in place of Kyoto.[75] Orders for the attack were issued to General Carl Spaatz on July 25 under the signature of General Thomas T. Handy, the acting Chief of Staff, since Marshall was at the Potsdam Conference with Truman.[76] That day, Truman noted in his diary that:

This weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop that terrible bomb on the old capital [Kyoto] or the new [Tokyo]. He and I are in accord. The target will be a purely military one.[77]
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I realize the tragic significance of the atomic bomb ... It is an awful responsibility which has come to us ... We thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies; and we pray that He may guide us to use it in His ways and for His purposes.
—President Harry S. Truman, August 9, 1945
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He knew he screwed up. You think after what happened, all Americans supported it 100%? Wrong! Once they found out about dead innocent civilians including hundreds of children, they felt bad about it.

Einstein should be proud of the bombs he invented that murdered women and children? You must be NUTS.

 

[Steinhauer]

Have you ever heard of Unit 731?

Ya know ... my grandmother's older brother was killed in Pearl Harbor.

 

[Jiro]

He knew he screwed up. You think after what happened, all Americans supported it 100%? Wrong! Once they found out about dead innocent civilians including hundreds of children, they felt bad about it.

I don't think you understand Truman's quote correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong... you believe that based on his quote..... Truman regretted his decisions for dropping the a-bombs.... if that's the case - you are wrong.

He was saying that we should drop the bomb on "purely military targets"... which were Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Kyoto and Tokyo were removed from the list of targets. No regret on his part.

dead innocent people. yea.... it's called war. it doesn't matter if we do it perfectly. there will always be dead innocent people and that's just too bad. we do the best we can. Truman's prudent but difficult action led to the least possible civilian casualty. it resulted in a few hundred thousand dead.... compared to 30+ millions of innocent people killed by Japanese. therefore - the objective was successfully met.... the end of World War 2.

please do tell me how can we end World War 2 without us killing any innocent Japanese civilian?

Einstein should be proud of the bombs he invented that murdered women and children? You must be NUTS.

hey... your words, not mine. I guess you're saying that Samuel Colt, John Browning, etc. should be proud of the guns they invented that murdered women and children.

yea you're nuts :roll:

again... your words, not mine. you're the one who are making this about murders. I said Einstein should be proud that his e=mc2 ended World War 2 and started the world peace. do you see anybody nuking each other since then? there you go. a success! world peace!

 

[CrazyPaul]

I don't think you understand Truman's quote correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong... you believe that based on his quote..... Truman regretted his decisions for dropping the a-bombs.... if that's the case - you are wrong.

He was saying that we should drop the bomb on "purely military targets"... which were Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Kyoto and Tokyo were removed from the list of targets. No regret on his part.

dead innocent people. yea.... it's called war. it doesn't matter if we do it perfectly. there will always be dead innocent people and that's just too bad. we do the best we can. Truman's prudent but difficult action led to the least possible civilian casualty. it resulted in a few hundred thousand dead.... compared to 30+ millions of innocent people killed by Japanese. therefore - the objective was successfully met.... the end of World War 2.

please do tell me how can we end World War 2 without us killing any innocent Japanese civilian?


hey... your words, not mine. I guess you're saying that Samuel Colt, John Browning, etc. should be proud of the guns they invented that murdered women and children.

yea you're nuts :roll:

again... your words, not mine. you're the one who are making this about murders. I said Einstein should be proud that his e=mc2 ended World War 2 and started the world peace. do you see anybody nuking each other since then? there you go. a success! world peace!

The atomic bombings of Japan occurred three months after the surrender of Germany, whose potential for creating a Nazi a-bomb had led Einstein to push for the development of an a-bomb for the Allies. Einstein withheld public comment on the atomic bombing of Japan until a year afterward. A short article on the front page of the New York Times contained his view: "Prof. Albert Einstein... said that he was sure that President Roosevelt would have forbidden the atomic bombing of Hiroshima had he been alive and that it was probably carried out to end the Pacific war before Russia could participate." ("Einstein Deplores Use of Atom Bomb", New York Times, 8/19/46, pg. 1). Einstein later wrote, "I have always condemned the use of the atomic bomb against Japan." (Otto Nathan & Heinz Norden, editors, "Einstein on Peace", pg. 589).

That's his words, not mine. You are nuts to say that he should be proud of it. He was not that kind of guy.

That's the last time America dropped a nuclear bomb. Hell no, we will not do it again since we have the technology to pinpoint the military areas.

"please do tell me how can we end World War 2 without us killing any innocent Japanese civilian? " Make a Plan B.

 

[Steinhauer]

Well, you know, nuking Japan did end the war. Now they have horror movies of a giant monster that comes in from the sea, breathing fire and burning buildings down.

Must be the psychological after effects of the consequences they experienced from a surprise attack on a peaceful nation.

If anyone were to ever do that again, we will just have to release Godzilla once more.

 

[CrazyPaul]

Well, you know, nuking Japan did end the war. Now they have horror movies of a giant monster that comes in from the sea, breathing fire and burning buildings down.

Must be the psychological after effects of the consequences they experienced from a surprise attack on a peaceful nation.

If anyone were to ever do that again, we will just have to release Godzilla once more.

Where was Godzilla when Japan invaded several countries? Enough of BS!

 

[Steinhauer]

Where was Godzilla when Japan invaded several countries? Enough of BS!

He was sleeping and dreaming of eating crunchy 1939 Ohta Model OD cars made by the Ohta Jidosha Seizosha Co. Ltd (not to be confused with Kosoku Kikan Kogyo Co.) They were 734 cc 4 cylinder cars.

Something woke him up.

Maybe he didn't like Chyoda renaming their cars Isuzu?

 

[Jiro]

That's his words, not mine. You are nuts to say that he should be proud of it. He was not that kind of guy.

I know what he said and I've never said he said he was proud of of it. I'm just telling you MY OPINION that he should be proud of ending WW2. get it?

Some people see the glass as half-empty..... some sees it as half-full....

That's the last time America dropped a nuclear bomb. Hell no, we will not do it again since we have the technology to pinpoint the military areas.

we will not do it again? that's not up to us. that's up to enemy. we WILL retaliate without hesitation if a nuclear weapon is launched against us. that's why we have Seawolf-class submarines roaming around the sea, waiting to strike at any nation stupid enough to use nuke. oh btw - that submarines have enough nukes to annihilate the entire world.

USA #1. World Peace!

 

[Jiro]

Where was Godzilla when Japan invaded several countries? Enough of BS!

where do you think Godzilla came from? our a-bombs!

 

[Steinhauer]

Mmmmmm .. crunchy goodness!!!!

 

[Jiro]

hey silly Godzilla! that's not kit kat bar! put it down! put it down now!

 

[CrazyPaul]

I know what he said and I've never said he said he was proud of of it. I'm just telling you MY OPINION that he should be proud of ending WW2. get it?

Some people see the glass as half-empty..... some sees it as half-full....


we will not do it again? that's not up to us. that's up to enemy. we WILL retaliate without hesitation if a nuclear weapon is launched against us. that's why we have Seawolf-class submarines roaming around the sea, waiting to strike at any nation stupid enough to use nuke. oh btw - that submarines have enough nukes to annihilate the entire world.

USA #1. World Peace!

Are you serious? That we will use it again while USA complains that other countries make nukes?

 

[Jiro]

Are you serious? That we will use it again while USA complains that other countries make nukes?

why can't you just use your brain to understand a simple thing?

1. we would not use a nuke to attack any country.

2. we would RETALIATE with a nuke if an enemy launched a nuke at us.

3. last time I heard... USA is not an enemy country.... unlike Syria, Iran, and North Korea. so yea we will and should prevent any unstable country from acquiring or producing a nuke.

4. we do not threaten any country with a nuke... unlike Syria, Iran, and North Korea.

5. USA is already working on shrinking its nuclear arsenal along with Russia and allied forces.

 

[Steinhauer]

You know who can roast his own marshmallows?

I'll give you a clue ... he is big, and green, and breathes fire.

 

[caz12]

Have you ever heard of Unit 731?

Ya know ... my grandmother's older brother was killed in Pearl Harbor.

whats the web address bc I not find it

 

[hoichi]

it's just one big bomb. that's all. there's no rule in how big a bomb can be.... like MOAB... or FOAB...

our 203mm howitzer... the largest artillery size available in our military.... many countries use artillery size in 155mm-range and many enemies use even smaller than that...

by your logic... our 203mm badass is a weapon of mass destruction because in your words - *whining high-pitched voice* IT'S NOT FAAAAIIIIIRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! CUZ RULES ARE RULES!!!!!!

:roll:

My logic is this.
The indiscriminate killing and targeting of civilians regardless of the weapon used, nukes, carpet bombing or fire.bombing, poison gas biological weapons, the use of weapons of mass destruction, reducing entire cities to.ash with everyone inthem, womwn, kids, old, young, assholes, nice guys, everyone to dust is a war crime. and i hope.the civilized world is able to handle its plms without the need to resort to the same mass murder of the enemies it claims to oppose.
if u have no plm with the use of such wepons on civiians then obviously u will hwve no plm with other nations using the same tactics and weapons against civilians.
Nice world u want jiro
Why did america invade iraq again?
Why is she so concerned with iran getting the same wepons nukes she used? Its only . Matter of time before some one besides america gets their hands on them, and like america, uses them against another. If u cant see this, not much really to discuss.
Hope its not your city the next terrorist with nukes decided to hit
Good kuck

 

[hoichi]

Have you ever heard of Unit 731?

Ya know ... my grandmother's older brother was killed in Pearl Harbor.

Right perl harbor, and that justifies the use of nukes with you?
Only a matter time i figure until an american city eventualy gets a taste of their own medicine...
I can see the outrage now, considering how much 911 shook you guys, and that was a couple.of planes..
Once u actually fight big boys who caN defend themselves besides granada (cough), , panama, (cough), iraq (cough), and afghanistan ohh scary....maybe once you Face the total destruction of your cities, the burning to ash of your innocent.people,maybe then, you will get it..., the last 40 years, you invaded mutiple nations with your badass military, too bad not one had the means to actually defend themselves against your conquests And onslaught. yeah tough guys...i can see the outrage now,and i doubt any justification by who ever does to you, as in nukes your cities for what ever their reason will be accepted. Because contrary to what you hold. The mass murder of innocent civikians has no justisication.
How many died in.pearl harbour?
How many with the nukes?
The fire bombings?
Easy for the victors to gloat woe to the vanquished, same victors who pissed themselves scared ****less by what two plane. Rammed into A couple of buldings did on 911.
Tough guys
karma, it comes.round..
Tick tick tick,

 

[hoichi]

why can't you just use your brain to understand a simple thing?

1. we would not use a nuke to attack any country.

2. we would RETALIATE with a nuke if an enemy launched a nuke at us.

3. last time I heard... USA is not an enemy country.... unlike Syria, Iran, and North Korea. so yea we will and should prevent any unstable country from acquiring or producing a nuke.

4. we do not threaten any country with a nuke... unlike Syria, Iran, and North Korea.

5. USA is already working on shrinking its nuclear arsenal along with Russia and allied forces.

You are the only country ever to use nukes to attack another country. hitler didnt do thst, stalin didnt do that, the japs didnt do that, saddam didnt do that, these guys of course would have no issues at all with using nukes and the mass murder of innocent peoplE. Mmmm nice company yoir in jiro.
America is the only country ever to use nukes to attack another. That is a fact, feel free to debunk.it, and you claim she will never do it? Or do it again?
so we should just take your word for it..
Sure
Lets see america pick on someon. Their own size, oh wsit...masybe that was grenada, mmmm, no, how about panama, tsk tsk, no mmmmmm how about iraq, no,,,,
Bullies.
With nukes too and you have used them...
Scary

 

[caz12]

we all know back 50's 60's America practice bombs on small atols in pacific,both America Europe know was wrong and if could put clock back it would not have happen we seen results we learned lessons,Unfortuneatly other counties 70 years after japan also have same knowledge and prepared to use them on peaceful countries who see religious TEX differently
As for nazie stuff it could be classed as social history and leave it alone..
Many high ranking nazies escaped via Syria it had been arranged with Syria before war ended.I often wondered why those Syrians were not brought to war crimes tribunal

 

[hoichi]

Well, you know, nuking Japan did end the war. Now they have horror movies of a giant monster that comes in from the sea, breathing fire and burning buildings down.

Must be the psychological after effects of the consequences they experienced from a surprise attack on a peaceful nation.

If anyone were to ever do that again, we will just have to release Godzilla once more.

It did end the war, but it was not the only way the war could of ended
If christians here dont see a plm with the indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians,
Well...
Not much else to really say...
God help us
As an aside good to see you again steinhaur