Schools to Stop teaching Cursive!

Sometimes depend your on writing on how writing on paper I think so might to if suppose important! I guess my writing on mess :lol: I notice my father is very neat fast handwriting
not easy because sometimes different on person!
 
it's expected and I'm not sad at all. The handwriting style changes over time. I'm just glad in my time - the handwriting style is not like Colonial age :lol:

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While all these samples are different, I can understand them all. I get really annoyed when someone tries to read something and complains that it's illegible. I want to say "Maybe it's you who haven't learned how to read different styles."

Cursive is an anachronistic waste of time. There are much more important things we should be teaching our children in the 21st century. Good riddance.

Agreed. If you cut out cursive, you cut down the instruction time by half, giving a teacher more time to teach other things.

Kids are already getting shit educations, so let's just make them even more ignorant.

Sigh.

Now cursive will be something that the 'best educated' know. Great. Another way to divide the masses when it comes to language.

As long as a student knows the letters of the alphabet, how to spell a word, and how to use a word in a sentence, using cursive doesn't make a better difference. I see cursive as more of a classist symbol that allowed people to look down on others as less educated, less intelligent savages. You can have two students sitting side by side, one using printing and the other using cursive. Teach them the same topics, and they will both have the same knowledge regardless of their writing style.

If you look at old time writing, the handwriting looks really nice but a lot of words have been mispelled. So, handwriting styles have nothing to do with intelligence or knowledge.

Some of the cursive letters do look ridiculous and hardly resemble the printed counterparts. In NH, the printed lowercase 'k' had a loop. When I was subbing, the kids looked at me like I am from Mars when I did that and I had to change to a different way of writing the same letter (just one straight line, an angled line and without the loop).
 
Like a flex-fuel pen, ha, ha.

One of our church members, a young guy, makes fountain pens as a hobby and small business. He makes the body of the pens out of fine woods. They make beautiful gifts. I think his use cartridges.

fountain pens are coming back! There are some people that still like to write letters!
 
Are you sure she doesn't need eyeglasses? I used to do that before I got eyeglasses.

She has aspergers and compulsive disorder and can't help it that write a letter more than one time, it has nothing to do her not seeing ok. She had to wake up at 5:00 AM to get ready for school because of her compulsive disorder.
 
People who are very computer literate and write well also have a style of communication when typing. It's the 'inward copy editor' that we all have.

I kind of like it.

Yeah, it just not the same to me, I am glad I have hand written letters from my mom, that no longer alive.
 
Good, I had a hard time to read some people's cursive handwrite for communication thru paper and pen. Like Is it an E? an I? a L? Ahh!

I still write in cursive on my CC, check, tax, etc for my name only.




I am sure your Cursive writing is quick but problem, most fill out forms are write in print only. Nothing you can do it. That's why I prefer to sign up everything thru internet over write on the paper for fast. My WPM is around 80. I don't think most people's cursive writing are faster than type at 60-120 WPM.

My spelling is so bad that alone take more time type or write. In fact my spelling is so bad it has spell check say HUH!
 
I used to have great handwriting back when I was still in school but now I have to print in block letters to make sure it's legible - all those years of working on the computer and answering emails...sigh! My stepmom has really beautiful handwriting and it's always a pleasure to read anything she writes, even if it was about how to clean the toilet, her handwriting is THAT nice! :D

That happen to my younger sister too, she had nice hand writing ,but after being a secretary for along time and having type a lot her writing got poor.
My sister was able to write both hands when was in school, she uses her left hand when her right hand got tried! But the teacher would not let her do that and only allow my sister to use her right hand for writing!
 
ooooooookay...another reason to why stupidity is increasing AND ending the human race.

Because of a lack of cursive? Cursive is silly and useless.

I'm going to miss cursive. It's sad that people can't even read cursive writing anymore.

I remember when I was a kid I felt that I had "grown up" when I learned cursive writing--printing was for little kids. :lol:

Cursive writing is so much faster than printing. If I had to print everything it would take too long.

If people don't learn cursive writing, how will they sign their names to official documents?

Cursive kind of reminds me of old English. It's nice for people to be able to read it, but I certainly don't think it's a necessary skill (or for that matter, even necessarily useful) that everyone should learn, by any means.

Yeah, the schools in Charleston got iPads for their students last year, too. They want to expand the program this coming school year. I think the first year iPads were donated by Apple.

This year's education, sponsored by Apple.

(Side note: I'm a huge fan of getting newer and better technology into the hands of children earlier. I am not a fan of this, though, any more than I was a fan of my college's software development program practically being "sponsored" by Microsoft and only teaching MS programming languages.)

So you do use a form of cursive, not block printed letters.

Isn't cursive a very rigid set of letters, the same way block printing is? For most people, I wouldn't think signatures would fall under either category, especially since for simplicity's sake, most signatures turn into essentially "letter, scribble, wiggle, hint of a letter". That's how mine is, at least. With the first letter being optional, lol.

I wonder how many future literary masterpieces they are denying us by doing this. I understand that Robin Moore (who wrote The Green Berets, among other things) wrote with his manuscript on top of a refrigerator, and Ernest Hemingway wrote standing at a lectern: he had dozens of pencils all sharpened and ready for use. :hmm:

None. :)

We're busy killing those off by teaching crap like this: Gatsby without greatness - Roger Ebert's Journal

Just because they won't be learning cursive doesn't mean they can't still handwrite it if they choose. But I doubt our future literary geniuses will be writing out much by hand. They are children of the keyboard age.:P And they could always put a laptop on a lecturn if the want to type standing up.

I've read a surprisingly large number of articles about people who decided to go with standing desks for their day jobs that involve sitting (or in their case, standing) at a computer all day long.

I knew I was old when one of my high school students asked me what was a "typewriter."

Sigh.

So... what is it?

Come to think of it, we no longer have to teach how to write in various letter formats except for the email versions of the business letters. That's sad. :( I love personal letters, handwritten and mailed (yes, snail mailed).

Instead, they should teach people how to properly write Facebook posts/comments and non-vitriolic comments on news stories.

Me too. I used to write a mail to friends... now, not anymore. =/

It's all in the delay. If we somehow invent teleporters that can fit in your mailbox and allow you to instantly mail something to anyone (and allow you to check your mail from anywhere) then you might see a small resurgence in that, but I'd still be surprised simply because of the waste involved (envelope, paper, etc).

Yep, snail mail letters are a thing of the past. Many times you are only asked to respond in email or by FAX.

Seriously? People still use fax, too?
 
E-cards. I get and send them all the time, for various occasions. I have received invitations in digital form, too.

I wouldn't know about scented love letters. But I have no doubt they will come up with a way to create a sense of smell somehow in a digital conversion.:giggle:

For product rebates, I see the future being asked to scan your receipt into your computer and email it.

E-cards? Bleh, no thanks. That's one digital equivalent that got butchered early by Hallmark and extremely shitty graphics, and honestly, good riddance. (Though to be fair, I'm not a huge fan of actual cards, either.)

Rebates are silly as it is, though. I think Staples does it entirely digital now where you just go to a website and type in the receipt info. Now all they need to do is get rid of receipts, and then make all rebates "instant".

It doesn't require a lot of time, and they aren't doing it in high school classes. :lol:

Once they learn how to write cursively, they save time later in their note writing because cursive is faster.

I transferred from an East Coast school to a West Coast school in the middle of the second grade. The West Coast students had already learned how to write in cursive but I hadn't even started. The teacher didn't want to hold things up, so she gave me the cursive writing text book and told me to learn on my own time. Which I did. It didn't take up too much time.

The most time-consuming part of learning how to write was filling the ink pens and cleaning up the mess afterwards. :giggle: Yes, we had wooden desks with inkwell holes in them for our little bottles of ink. We also had to bring fountain pens and blotter cards to school for our penmanship class. It was really messy for the poor lefties.

I don't recall us falling behind scholastically just because we took penmanship training. :lol:

Faster for some, slower for some. I can type 3-5x faster than I can write by hand in either cursive or block writing, and when I type my notes, it's actually possible to read them at a later date!

I am envisioning "QWERTY Typing" being placed on Endangered List when I'm middle-age.... :hmm:

Replaced by DVORAK or replaced by brain-computer interfaces?
 
For some reason I am not surprised they are no longer teaching cursive writing in schools. However, I still plan to teach it to my DD. Why? Because when she has to sign a document - she won't be given grief over it. Heck - my driver's license has my signature on it as part of false ID prevention as per state law requirement.

I seldom print, and my cursive looks better than my print. I am a lefty and people tell me I have very good hand writing.

I am also told that people that study handwriting forensics are able to tell a lot about you just based on your hand writing alone. Scary.

I just practiced as a kid in "developing" a signature, where I'd print my name, then do it faster and faster and everything would turn into generic squiggles that are still fairly unique and almost similar to each other.

simple - just squiggle it along. many times - I :roll: at people while waiting in the line at stores when people actually sign their signature legibly because they take time to do it.

OH PLEASE! WHO CARES???? It's just a store, for heaven's sake! It's not like they're signing some important legal documents. I just squiggle it and be gone in 3 seconds.

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Oh, when I'm at a store, it's even better. I often draw a tree and sun, or a smiley face, or someone else's name. It's lots of fun. If credit card companies ever checked those, they'd hate me!

Kids are already getting shit educations, so let's just make them even more ignorant.

Sigh.

Now cursive will be something that the 'best educated' know. Great. Another way to divide the masses when it comes to language.

Yep, the poorer and less educated kids will learn cursive.

The better educated ones learn typing. Replacing cursive in public education should help that, though.

One word, "Dvorak!"

That's on my list of things to eventually learn.

Hmm, I think I have one of those keyboards.

I want one of those keyboards where each button is its own LCD screen, so your keyboard can be literally every type ever.

I'd like to add... if people don't learn cursive writing, how will they read the genealogy records?

They'll have to learn it. Probably around the same time that they learn what a genealogy record is.

I'm envisioning a lucrative retirement plan for me :aw:

Will Read Really Old Shit For Food
 
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I attended private and public schools growing up. I think your handwriting tells alot about you, in fact Professional Handwriting Analysis is still used in many Federal court cases. My real problem with not teaching children cursive is the loss for those kids who really love it..I LOVE recving a hand written note or letter.
I write monthly "Here's What's Going On" letters to family and friends. With things being the way they are, having so many demands for our time, kids activities, working and going to school, caring for a ill family member, or even the gym. Yes you can scribble anything on a charge card recpt. they seldom check to see if you signed your name. I tried it myself before i decided to get rid of all charge cards. My Bank card is credit as well. All I can say is I see things changing so quickly, our children need the basics at least an I think cursive is a basic. Printing is no easier understood when done by a person who really just wants to complete something. Maybe it's my age, but
learning cursive was almost like art for me.. every manuscript I have written has been by hand. I do collect Fountain Pens. laughing and I would never think of sending a card to someone without a personal note in cursive, letting them know how much they mean to me. Ok again, maybe that's just me..laughing...Midnight..Peace to all.♥♥♥
 
sad....

fortunately - we still have several left around here because of older Korean people and Hispanic people. I haven't used the big chain pharmacy in a long time.

The smaller pharmacies also generally know their cusomers pretty well, and stock what those particular customers need. They are also familiar with the docs those customers use. Someone coming in with an Rx for a large amount of narcotics would immediately raise a red flag.
 
It doesn't require a lot of time, and they aren't doing it in high school classes. :lol:

Once they learn how to write cursively, they save time later in their note writing because cursive is faster.

I transferred from an East Coast school to a West Coast school in the middle of the second grade. The West Coast students had already learned how to write in cursive but I hadn't even started. The teacher didn't want to hold things up, so she gave me the cursive writing text book and told me to learn on my own time. Which I did. It didn't take up too much time.

The most time-consuming part of learning how to write was filling the ink pens and cleaning up the mess afterwards. :giggle: Yes, we had wooden desks with inkwell holes in them for our little bottles of ink. We also had to bring fountain pens and blotter cards to school for our penmanship class. It was really messy for the poor lefties.

I don't recall us falling behind scholastically just because we took penmanship training. :lol:

Most students today use a laptop for notetaking. Even faster than cursive.
 
Faster for some, slower for some. I can type 3-5x faster than I can write by hand in either cursive or block writing, and when I type my notes, it's actually possible to read them at a later date!
But you can only type letters, numbers, and characters. What if you needed to draw a diagram or something? 3-5x more complicated than pen on paper writing. :P
 
But you can only type letters, numbers, and characters. What if you needed to draw a diagram or something? 3-5x more complicated than pen on paper writing. :P

Convertible tablets. Digital stylus for freehand stuff needed, keyboard for regular stuff. And either way, I'm pretty sure I'd not want to see cursive on a diagram or graph or whatnot.
 
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