Schools to Stop teaching Cursive!

[Glenn]

Convertible tablets. Digital stylus for freehand stuff needed, keyboard for regular stuff. And either way, I'm pretty sure I'd not want to see cursive on a diagram or graph or whatnot.

Did I say anything about cursive on a diagram or graph?

It's still more complicated than just drawing what you need on paper.

 

[StSapphire]

Did I say anything about cursive on a diagram or graph?

It's still more complicated than just drawing what you need on paper.

No, I was just referring to the original topic.

And it's mildly more complicated in that case, but less complicated for keeping things organized on the whole (for me, at least).

 

[jillio]

Have you ever tried doodling on a laptop?

Actually, yeah. With the draw feature on microsoft.

 

[jillio]

But you can only type letters, numbers, and characters. What if you needed to draw a diagram or something? 3-5x more complicated than pen on paper writing. :P

I've got a stats program that does my diagrams for me.

JMO...spend the time formally used to teach cursive and devote it to teaching grammar and reading comprehension. Time will be much better spent.

 

[Dixie]

Most students today use a laptop for notetaking. Even faster than cursive.

I recorded my lectures AND took notes. After class I would listen to the lecture again and fill in any holes I had in my notes, then I would go back again and organize them and type them up and used that to study by. It would be nice if I could actually afford the software where the lecture would be recorded and it would instantly come up on my screen as words I can read. From what I gather this technology has been around for a while but hasn't yet been perfected enough for everyday practical use such as 4 block classes per day, 5 days a week.

 

[Glenn]

No, I was just referring to the original topic.

And it's mildly more complicated in that case, but less complicated for keeping things organized on the whole (for me, at least).

Tech geeks are all alike; they think anything can be improved with technology.

I have an IT degree.

:P

 

[Glenn]

I've got a stats program that does my diagrams for me.

JMO...spend the time formally used to teach cursive and devote it to teaching grammar and reading comprehension. Time will be much better spent.

I'm sure you meant formerly.

I think kids will still need to know how to read cursive at least for a while longer.

 

[Jiro]

I recorded my lectures AND took notes. After class I would listen to the lecture again and fill in any holes I had in my notes, then I would go back again and organize them and type them up and used that to study by. It would be nice if I could actually afford the software where the lecture would be recorded and it would instantly come up on my screen as words I can read. From what I gather this technology has been around for a while but hasn't yet been perfected enough for everyday practical use such as 4 block classes per day, 5 days a week.

yes. it's called a stenographer

and you can request for C.A.R.T. service!

 

[Jiro]

Convertible tablets. Digital stylus for freehand stuff needed, keyboard for regular stuff. And either way, I'm pretty sure I'd not want to see cursive on a diagram or graph or whatnot.

ew. that crap? just give me a pen and note and I'll pwn whatever the gadgets they have

 

[Glenn]

ew. that crap? just give me a pen and note and I'll pwn whatever the gadgets they have

This.

 

[jillio]

I'm sure you meant formerly.

I think kids will still need to know how to read cursive at least for a while longer.

Well, your version makes sense too, but actually, I was referring to the block of time set aside each day for "formal" lessons in cursive writing.

 

[sequoias]

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Wow that sucks. I remember learning how to write in cursive as well. I don't really do it anymore and mostly write in print. My mom still writes in cursive and my dad writes in all capitals lol. I forgot to add that my grandma writes in calligraphy which is similar to cursive but in a fancy manner with a special pen.

 

[Reba]

Because of a lack of cursive? Cursive is silly and useless.

Silly and useless? It's efficient, fluid, and quick. Are we talking about the same thing?

Cursive kind of reminds me of old English. It's nice for people to be able to read it, but I certainly don't think it's a necessary skill (or for that matter, even necessarily useful) that everyone should learn, by any means.

You are so funny!

This year's education, sponsored by Apple.

(Side note: I'm a huge fan of getting newer and better technology into the hands of children earlier. I am not a fan of this, though, any more than I was a fan of my college's software development program practically being "sponsored" by Microsoft and only teaching MS programming languages.)[/quote]
It's called developing a customer base.

Isn't cursive a very rigid set of letters, the same way block printing is?

In general, they are uniform but certainly not rigid. There are variations and personalizations.

For most people, I wouldn't think signatures would fall under either category, especially since for simplicity's sake, most signatures turn into essentially "letter, scribble, wiggle, hint of a letter". That's how mine is, at least. With the first letter being optional, lol.

Good for you. Mine is legible, not a scribble. We are individuals.

Seriously? People still use fax, too?

In business, yes. We have clients that send faxes to us, and request faxes.

 

[Reba]

Rebates are silly as it is, though. I think Staples does it entirely digital now where you just go to a website and type in the receipt info. Now all they need to do is get rid of receipts, and then make all rebates "instant".

Maybe it's silly to you to get back money but the rest of us can use that money.

Faster for some, slower for some. I can type 3-5x faster than I can write by hand in either cursive or block writing, and when I type my notes, it's actually possible to read them at a later date!

I don't carry a keyboard with me for taking quick notes.

I have no problem reading my notes later.

 

[jillio]

Maybe it's silly to you to get back money but the rest of us can use that money.


I don't carry a keyboard with me for taking quick notes.

I have no problem reading my notes later.

Then you just keep on doing it the way you have always done it. It appears, however, that the younger generation are moving quickly into the tech age.

 

[Reba]

I just practiced as a kid in "developing" a signature, where I'd print my name, then do it faster and faster and everything would turn into generic squiggles that are still fairly unique and almost similar to each other.

And you think learning cursive is a waste of time? It sounds to me like you had a lot of time to waste.

Oh, when I'm at a store, it's even better. I often draw a tree and sun, or a smiley face, or someone else's name. It's lots of fun. If credit card companies ever checked those, they'd hate me!

Well, that's mature. :roll:

Yep, the poorer and less educated kids will learn cursive.

Do you even read what you post?

The better educated ones learn typing. Replacing cursive in public education should help that, though.

Boy, have you got it backwards!

Fast typing skills will get you a job in data entry at DMV. Whoopee!

That's on my list of things to eventually learn.

And you think learning cursive writing is a time waster?

They'll have to learn it. Probably around the same time that they learn what a genealogy record is.

I'm hoping that you're just being silly.

 

[jillio]

And you think learning cursive is a waste of time? It sounds to me like you had a lot of time to waste.



Well, that's mature. :roll:


Do you even read what you post?


Boy, have you got it backwards!

Fast typing skills will get you a job in data entry at DMV. Whoopee!



And you think learning cursive writing is a time waster?



I'm hoping that you're just being silly.

Most jobs require computer experience with specific programs. Check out the job ads. All but something like minimum wage clerking jobs ask for some degree of computer literacy. But funny, none ask for cursive writing as a requirement.

 

[Reba]

Then you just keep on doing it the way you have always done it. It appears, however, that the younger generation are moving quickly into the tech age.

I can use any of the technology that's available (within my financial means). I help people of "the younger generation" use their computers. I've troubleshooted their computers and set up networks for them. I'm no Luddite. I love browsing gadgets at the big box stores and on line.

However, I'm wise enough to know that one cannot put all of one's dependence on gadgetry, and just because something is digital doesn't make it superior in every instance.

For now, I can take notes without toting around a laptop or tablet or worrying about battery life or a place to plug in. Also, no one is tempted to steal my notepad, and if I drop it, so what?

 

[jillio]

I can use any of the technology that's available (within my financial means). I help people of "the younger generation" use their computers. I've troubleshooted their computers and set up networks for them. I'm no Luddite. I love browsing gadgets at the big box stores and on line.

However, I'm wise enough to know that one cannot put all of one's dependence on gadgetry, and just because something is digital doesn't make it superior in every instance.

For now, I can take notes without toting around a laptop or tablet or worrying about battery life or a place to plug in. Also, no one is tempted to steal my notepad, and if I drop it, so what?

Just because someone chooses to take notes with a pen and paper does not also mean that they need to be taught cursive writing to do so. Classroom time is valuable. Teach kids the skills they will need in the future, not the ones that were needed in the past.

You'd be surprised at how many people would pick up a dropped notepad, lol.

 

[Reba]

Most jobs require computer experience with specific programs. Check out the job ads. All but something like minimum wage clerking jobs ask for some degree of computer literacy. But funny, none ask for cursive writing as a requirement.

Typing skills and computer literacy are not the same thing.

No one ever asked about cursive writing skills because it was assumed people applying for those jobs knew how to read and write.