Schools to Stop teaching Cursive!

Typing skills and computer literacy are not the same thing.

No one ever asked about cursive writing skills because it was assumed people applying for those jobs knew how to read and write.

But they certainly go hand in hand where the job market is concerned. Many placed only do online applications, now.

And that was then. Now is now. And the future we will be even more tech oriented. That is why they have takenwriting out of the curriculum. Once it was a valuable skill to have. Now, there are other skills more valuable and useful.
 
Typing skills and computer literacy are not the same thing.

No one ever asked about cursive writing skills because it was assumed people applying for those jobs knew how to read and write.

Knowing how to read and write does not imply knowing cursive. Books are written in print form, not cursive form.
 
Just because someone chooses to take notes with a pen and paper does not also mean that they need to be taught cursive writing to do so. Classroom time is valuable. Teach kids the skills they will need in the future, not the ones that were needed in the past.
Good grief! How much time have they been using for teaching cursive writing? Maybe 15 minutes per day for one week, at most? Out of all the K-12 years, students can't get caught up after that? That's pitiful.
 
But they certainly go hand in hand where the job market is concerned. Many placed only do online applications, now.

And that was then. Now is now. And the future we will be even more tech oriented. That is why they have takenwriting out of the curriculum. Once it was a valuable skill to have. Now, there are other skills more valuable and useful.
Today's students are so deficient in abilities that they can't do both? I thought they were all wizards at multitasking?

So, what complex technical skill do second graders learn in that 15 minutes that they save from learning cursive writing?
 
Good grief! How much time have they been using for teaching cursive writing? Maybe 15 minutes per day for one week, at most? Out of all the K-12 years, students can't get caught up after that? That's pitiful.

Use that 15 minutes to teach keyboarding or add it to the grammar or reading times. And you aren't counting the practice sheets sent out for homework.

The fact is that when something becomes obsolete, it is no longer put into the curriculum. Why should we waste even 15 minutes teaching kids obsolete skills. That is why so many nations are moving ahead of us academically. Our curriculum is behind the times.
 
Today's students are so deficient in abilities that they can't do both? I thought they were all wizards at multitasking?

So, what complex technical skill do second graders learn in that 15 minutes that they save from learning cursive writing?

The second graders could be using that 15 minutes for additional reading instruction, additional English instruction, or additional math instruction. That 15 minutes could easily be used for independent work time on a science project. Any of those uses will be more valuable and pertinent to a child's future than learning to form cursive letters.
 
Use that 15 minutes to teach keyboarding or add it to the grammar or reading times. And you aren't counting the practice sheets sent out for homework.
Do you really think that one week of 15 minutes is going to make that much difference over the years of school time?

The fact is that when something becomes obsolete, it is no longer put into the curriculum. Why should we waste even 15 minutes teaching kids obsolete skills. That is why so many nations are moving ahead of us academically. Our curriculum is behind the times.
Wow! I never realized that the USA was behind other countries just because we taught our kids how to write! Wow! :eek3:
 
Most students today use a laptop for notetaking. Even faster than cursive.
Not at the college where I work.

Of course, some say they're taking notes on their laptops during class. (It looks suspiciously like FaceBook.) :giggle:

Real note taking is not the same as verbatim court reporting. The number of words doesn't equate with the quality of the information.
 
Do you really think that one week of 15 minutes is going to make that much difference over the years of school time?


Wow! I never realized that the USA was behind other countries just because we taught our kids how to write! Wow! :eek3:

You would be surprised at how much could be added to a child's useful knowledge if you take that 15 minutes, add the homework time devoted to cursive on top of it, and use it for a subject that is actually going to be beneficial to that child's knowledge base in the future.

It is not about teaching children to write. It is about wasting time teaching them to write in a specific way that is rarely, if ever, used; especially as it is taught.

The US is behind because outdated things such as cursive writing are left in the curriculum, and because the US has failed to move forward in an appropriate way with even the more useful subjects.
 
Not at the college where I work.

Of course, some say they're taking notes on their laptops during class. (It looks suspiciously like FaceBook.) :giggle:

Real note taking is not the same as verbatim court reporting. The number of words doesn't equate with the quality of the information.

Who said it was? And verbatim court reporting does not require the use of cursive writing.
 
Meh. I used to pick up women with the lowly paper notepad and pen. I guess guys are lugging around laptops nowadays. :P
 
You would be surprised at how much could be added to a child's useful knowledge if you take that 15 minutes, add the homework time devoted to cursive on top of it, and use it for a subject that is actually going to be beneficial to that child's knowledge base in the future.

It is not about teaching children to write. It is about wasting time teaching them to write in a specific way that is rarely, if ever, used; especially as it is taught.
It's also about teaching them how to discipline themselves with practice.

Maybe our kids aren't so smart after all if they can't manage to learn cursive writing and keyboarding both.

I guess practicing their penmanship for a few minutes of homework would deprive them of that many minutes on a video game, and that would be horrendous to the future of American advancement.
 
I recorded my lectures AND took notes. After class I would listen to the lecture again and fill in any holes I had in my notes, then I would go back again and organize them and type them up and used that to study by. It would be nice if I could actually afford the software where the lecture would be recorded and it would instantly come up on my screen as words I can read. From what I gather this technology has been around for a while but hasn't yet been perfected enough for everyday practical use such as 4 block classes per day, 5 days a week.

I dunno most voice to text software I've seen was rather crappy. It'd certainly be awesome if it actually worked, but most things I've seen needed about an hour of calibration for just one person's voice, and even then it wasn't all that accurate. Might be better now, though, dunno.

ew. that crap? just give me a pen and note and I'll pwn whatever the gadgets they have :D

Haha, I like my toys. :P

Silly and useless? It's efficient, fluid, and quick. Are we talking about the same thing?

Loopy special handwriting where all the letters are connected? It might also be that it simply hasn't been preferred or taught all that extensively the entire time I was in school, but most people could more easily and more quickly write in block letters, as well as having their handwriting be neater and more legible in block letters, among my classmates and other students close to my age.

I'll grant that could be a vicious cycle sort of thing, though.

It's called developing a customer base.

I know. :(

Schools aren't (well, shouldn't be) the place for that, though, to me.

In business, yes. We have clients that send faxes to us, and request faxes.

Huh. Must just be the career I'm in, I've never touched or used a fax once in my job. I use email for anything that would have previously used a fax. But then, I'm already spending 95% of my time on a computer for my job anyways.

Maybe it's silly to you to get back money but the rest of us can use that money.

I more meant the concept of rebates are silly. I understand why they do it (they get to claim it's "on sale" but they only have to give the sale to like 5-10% of the people who make the purchase), but it still rubs me very much the wrong way.

I don't carry a keyboard with me for taking quick notes.

Yeah, I'm prolly weird in that regard. I take my laptop with me basically everywhere, and anytime I need to take notes, I either use that, or I use one of the many whiteboards I have in either my office at home or at my desk at work.

I have no problem reading my notes later.

You probably have much, much better handwriting than me, lol.

And you think learning cursive is a waste of time? It sounds to me like you had a lot of time to waste.

Of course I did, I was a kid. I also spent a ton of my time reading, and playing on the computer, and all sorts of other things that I enjoyed.

Well, that's mature. :roll:

Wait, what? People are accusing me of being mature now!? :(

Do you even read what you post?

Sometimes. But seriously, in poorer school districts, the teachers are far more likely to only stick with exactly what the curriculum dictates, whereas teachers in richer school districts often have much more leniency with their curriculum to teach what they see is actually more useful, meaning that for a while, richer school districts were teaching their students how to type, whereas poorer school districts were teaching their students cursive.

Boy, have you got it backwards!

Fast typing skills will get you a job in data entry at DMV. Whoopee!

:roll:

Let me know how effective you are at doing any job which involves significant amounts of typing (which means more and more jobs since computers are being used more and more in a wide variety of positions) if you're not able to type without staring at the keyboard and if you can't type using more than two fingers. I know as a software developer, while you technically can do that, you're likely to be far less effective as a programmer than you are if you can touch-type.

And you think learning cursive writing is a time waster? :lol:

Haha, just because something isn't a necessary skill and/or isn't necessarily useful for the general population doesn't mean it can't be useful to some people. I'm sure writing in cursive isn't a waste of time for some people (such as yourself). It all depends on if you'll use it and gain any benefit from it, which most school children (at least anymore) won't.

I'm hoping that you're just being silly.

Well, I do that a lot, too. :giggle:

But seriously, how many kids do you currently think even know what a genealogy record is, or where to find them, or anything else?
 
Meh. I used to pick up women with the lowly paper notepad and pen. I guess guys are lugging around laptops nowadays. :P
Funny you should mention that.

I knew a young deaf man who kept all the young ladies charmed with his handwritten notes. It's amazing how such a simple act made them feel like they were worth his time and effort to write a note and hand it to them. BTW, they always wrote back, with a smile.

Usually, when I observed young ladies texting with their boy friends, they either look irritated or bored. Not so with the handwritten notes. :)

The guys with the laptops don't even chat face-to-face with the girls. They just look at their screens.
 
Meh. I used to pick up women with the lowly paper notepad and pen. I guess guys are lugging around laptops nowadays. :P

That's how I did it!

I guess practicing their penmanship for a few minutes of homework would deprive them of that many minutes on a video game, and that would be horrendous to the future of American advancement.

It would! How else will we stop the coming alien invasion?

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Funny you should mention that.

I knew a young deaf man who kept all the young ladies charmed with his handwritten notes. It's amazing how such a simple act made them feel like they were worth his time and effort to write a note and hand it to them. BTW, they always wrote back, with a smile.

Usually, when I observed young ladies texting with their boy friends, they either look irritated or bored. Not so with the handwritten notes. :)

The guys with the laptops don't even chat face-to-face with the girls. They just look at their screens.

Yep. I don't mean to brag, but it worked almost every single time. There's a tip for you young bucks in here. :giggle:
 
Yep. I don't mean to brag, but it worked almost every single time. There's a tip for you young bucks in here. :giggle:

But, it still doesn't require cursive writing. In fact, it one is attempting to charm, one would do much better to study grammar and classical lit than cursive writing. Just because something is written in cursive does not make it automatically romantic or persuasive.

That is similar to saying one has to speak to be able to use English fluently, isn't it? Both are nothing more than modes of a language, and cursive writing isn't even a mode, but a style.
 
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